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AsianOrange
08-06-2007, 01:33 PM
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_6556559?source=rss

Enjoy. I will move this to Training Camp in a bit.

Hawgdriver
08-06-2007, 01:46 PM
Thanks AO!

Looks like the Broncos are ready to go to war without Scheffler and Marshall. Of course, the depth chart is still very wet cement. I hope they can take the field before the cement dries!!

Good job Marcus Thomas!!

Where's Mike Bell?

The Hamburgler
08-06-2007, 01:49 PM
Thanks AO!

Looks like the Broncos are ready to go to war without Scheffler and Marshall. Of course, the depth chart is still very wet cement. I hope they can take the field before the cement dries!!

Good job Marcus Thomas!!

Where's Mike Bell?

On the site, it said only two deep. so mike bell must be #3, and I will be mad if he doesnt get Number 2. Come on MIKE.

mxbronco13
08-06-2007, 01:55 PM
Thanks AO!

Looks like the Broncos are ready to go to war without Scheffler and Marshall. Of course, the depth chart is still very wet cement. I hope they can take the field before the cement dries!!

Good job Marcus Thomas!!

Where's Mike Bell?

John Engleberger starting at defensive end?

And I feel bad for the Mike Bell fans that were raving about how great of a backup he was. Sure he has his good days but he is way too inconsistent, as I said months ago at the end of the season.

I hope Louis Green doesn't stay at strong side, I thought our new Bates system required fast LBs? D.D. Lewis was said to be doing great by our TC reporters (thank you :salute:) so what is the deal?

Scheffler needs to get back soon, I don't want to see Alexander getting torn apart by defenders for another season.

The main concern should be getting Marshall back (without his over-confidence) and Smith taking care of that hip because our WR depth plain out sucks.

dogfish
08-06-2007, 01:56 PM
only surprise is louis green. . .

Scheffler88
08-06-2007, 02:11 PM
only surprise is louis green. . .

What about Dumerville being 3rd string behind Moss and Crowder? I know he's a situational DE but seems to me he should be 2nd string.:confused:

dogfish
08-06-2007, 02:14 PM
What about Dumerville being 3rd string behind Moss and Crowder? I know he's a situational DE but seems to me he should be 2nd string.:confused:

i think that's only in regards to the base defense. . . camp reports have said that he's running with the first team in nickel and dime packages, which is what i would expect from him during the season. . .

Scheffler88
08-06-2007, 02:19 PM
Here is the depth chart from Denverbroncos.com. It goes a little further than 2 deep.

DENVER BRONCOS 2007 DEPTH CHART
As of Monday, August 6, 2007

Broncos Offense
WR 14 B. Stokley 12 D. Hixon 87 D. Kircus 11 Q. Morgan
LT 78 M Lepsis 74 R. Harris 63 C. Washburn
LG 50 B. Hamilton 62 C. Myers 68 E. Akah
C 66 T. Nalen 67 G. Eslinger 65 M. Fenton
RG 77 C. Kuper 70 M. Holland 72 K. McAlmont
RT 64 E. Peers 75 A. Meadows 69 J. Rogers
TE 89 D. Graham 82 S. Alexander 89 N. Jackson 85 C. Mustard 49 T. Johnson
WR 84 J. Walker 86 B. Clark 13 D. Terrell 17 G. Martinez 16 M. McDaniel
QB 6 J. Cutler 8 P. Ramsey 4 D. Hackney 5 P. Parsons
RB 20 T. Henry 37 C. Sapp 30 M. Bell 23 A. Hall 35 S. Young
FB 39 K. Johnson 34 T. Fleming 26 P. Smith


Broncos Specialists
P 10 T. Sauerbrun 3 P. Ernster
K 1 J. Elam 2 B. Pace
KO 10 T. Sauerbrun 3 P. Ernster 2 B. Pace
PR 12 D. Hixon 87 D. Kircus 17 G. Martinez 16 M. McDaniel 28 J. Shoate
KR 11 Q. Morgan 12 D. Hixon 23 A. Hall 86 B. Clark 30 M. Bell
PC 83 M. Leach 62 C. Myers 77 C. Kuper
KC 83 M. Leach 77 C. Kuper 62 C. Myers
H 10 T. Sauerbrun 3 P. Ernster 6 J. Cutler 8 P. Ramsey


Broncos Defense
LE 60 J. Engelberger 96 T. Crowder 76 K. Lang 90 K. Peterson
LT 95 S. Adams 73 J. Kennedy 63 A. Gordon 93 A. Burton
RT 61 G. Warren 79 M. Thomas 99 A. McKinley 97 D. Veal 68 S. Harris
RE 91 E. Ekuban 94 J. Moss 92 E. Dumervil
WLB 52 I. Gold 51 W. Mallard 56 W. Holdman
MLB 55 D.J. Williams 54 D.D. Lewis 59 C. Vaughn
SLB 53 L. Green 58 N. Webster 57 T.J. Hollowell
LCB 24 C. Bailey 41 K. Paymah 28 J. Shoate 36 B. Alford
RCB 32 D. Bly 22 D. Foxworth 46 K. House
SS 25 N. Ferguson 40 C. Cox 38 S. Cargile 43 R. Rogers
FS 47 J. Lynch 21 H. Abdullah 31 Q. Harris


Rookie and First-Year players underlined
Note: Injured players are not listed

topscribe
08-06-2007, 02:25 PM
only surprise is louis green. . .
I noticed that, too. I kept hearing what a beast Nate Webster has been, and
virtually nothing about Green, and all the sudden he's the starter. :confused:

Well, that's why the coaches are the coaches, I guess. They're paid to see
things the rest of us can't . . .

On the flip side, with Sauerbrun the starter in punting, kickoffs, and PK holding, looks like Ernster may be history.

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silkamilkamonic
08-06-2007, 02:34 PM
What about Dumerville being 3rd string behind Moss and Crowder? I know he's a situational DE but seems to me he should be 2nd string.:confused:

I don't think he will ever be 2nd string.

He excels in passing situations, and he's borderline dreadful against the run, and nothing better than a liability.

I don't believe Dumervil will ever be an every down player, but he will be very productive in the situational role he excels in.

Hopefully Denver can prevent opponents from going no huddle so teams don't utilize that to keep him off the field when he needs to be on.

REEF_811
08-06-2007, 02:54 PM
What about brian clark as the 3rd string, i havent really heard about him standing out and i know once marshall is back he will be 4th but i thought hixon was better.

Horn80
08-06-2007, 03:03 PM
This is how I see it!
RB 20 T. Henry 37 C. Sapp 30 35 S. Young M. Bell 23 A. Hall

BroncoBJ4MVP!!!
08-06-2007, 03:14 PM
I couldnt wait til I got up today to see the depth charts :salute:

Kinda sad that Mike is 3rd team.

Damn our Wr's are sick without Rod or Brandon.

We have Stokely as the #2 :eek:

I like him but just doesnt seem like anything great.

I guess we will have to see how they all do on the 13th. :salute:

AllEyezOnZach27
08-06-2007, 03:33 PM
We have Stokely as the #2 :eek:

I like him but just doesnt seem like anything great.

I agree with you. I do think Stokely will help as a slot/3WR but I just don't feel great about him being the #2 guy. We need someone that can take the pressure off Javon. Here's to hoping that Marshall comes back healthy and tears it up! :rockon:

Scheffler88
08-06-2007, 03:44 PM
Position battle

During a 2-minute drill late in the morning session, defensive tackle Jimmy Kennedy shot through to sack Cutler. Broncos coach Mike Shanahan then yanked right guard Chris Kuper out and replaced him with Montrae Holland. So while Kuper started the day as the first-string right guard, he didn't finish there. ""We got a lot of competition at a lot of positions but when a guy gives up three sacks in one day, we decided to make a move and see how the other guy responds," Shanahan said.

billymischke_33
08-06-2007, 03:52 PM
John Engleberger starting at defensive end?

And I feel bad for the Mike Bell fans that were raving about how great of a backup he was. Sure he has his good days but he is way too inconsistent, as I said months ago at the end of the season.

I hope Louis Green doesn't stay at strong side, I thought our new Bates system required fast LBs? D.D. Lewis was said to be doing great by our TC reporters (thank you :salute:) so what is the deal?

Scheffler needs to get back soon, I don't want to see Alexander getting torn apart by defenders for another season.

The main concern should be getting Marshall back (without his over-confidence) and Smith taking care of that hip because our WR depth plain out sucks.



i think we need to move elvis dumerville up, he led us in sacks last season and now isnt even close to starting.. its kinda crazy

DenBronx
08-06-2007, 04:09 PM
brian clark is a shock to me. i hadnt seen or heard any reports bragging about him. this could be over rated for this guy imo. when marshal gets back everyone will just have to take a back seat anyway.

looks like kircus and mike bell have some work to do. i think shanny is making them sweat for it.

DenBronx
08-06-2007, 04:12 PM
ugghh! and if john hamburgler is our starting de and moss possibly injured then i think its time to get on the phone and call mr rice. we cant go another season with out some serious pass rush. :brick:

broncobuss
08-06-2007, 05:41 PM
[QUOTE=mxbronco13;1890019]John Engleberger starting at defensive end?

And I feel bad for the Mike Bell fans that were raving about how great of a backup he was. Sure he has his good days but he is way too inconsistent, as I said months ago at the end of the season.

The only thing inconsistent about Mike Bell last year was the playing time he got, shanny kept going back to tatem and wouldnt play Bell consistently, but when he got the opertunity, he played very well. To me if they would have kept Mike the starter and let him go through his growing pains, he would have been a 1200 yard rusher and Denver would have never went out and got Henry, who I think is overratted,(although I hope Iam wrong on that). Bell may not break off the 80 yard run, but he always seems to break off the 20 yarders consitently. did I use the word consistently enough??:D

Buff_bronc_fan
08-06-2007, 06:50 PM
So it looks like the writing is on the wall that Peterson will be gone at DE... But what about Lang and Dumervil?? I would assume that Ekuban, Crowder, Moss and Engelberger will be here... Obviously Engelberger is the head scratcher, but he seems to have endeared himself to Bates, so for the time being we'll pencil him in...

So are Dumervil and/or Lang on the bubble?? How many ends will we keep, if we keep 5 one of them has to go, if we keep 4 both of them have to go... I don't know how many we have kept historically??

Thoughts...

DenBronx
08-06-2007, 07:24 PM
So it looks like the writing is on the wall that Peterson will be gone at DE... But what about Lang and Dumervil?? I would assume that Ekuban, Crowder, Moss and Engelberger will be here... Obviously Engelberger is the head scratcher, but he seems to have endeared himself to Bates, so for the time being we'll pencil him in...

So are Dumervil and/or Lang on the bubble?? How many ends will we keep, if we keep 5 one of them has to go, if we keep 4 both of them have to go... I don't know how many we have kept historically??

Thoughts...



elvis is NOT on any bubble my friend.

a rookie with 8 1/2 sacks last year and all the sudden he is on the bubble are you crazy!?

bates might not realize it yet but our single biggest pass rushing force just might be elvis. sorry moss lovers you know im right.

Buff_bronc_fan
08-06-2007, 08:20 PM
elvis is NOT on any bubble my friend.

a rookie with 8 1/2 sacks last year and all the sudden he is on the bubble are you crazy!?

bates might not realize it yet but our single biggest pass rushing force just might be elvis. sorry moss lovers you know im right.

I hope you're right man... I don't see how either of them could be on the bubble personally, I guess my main point of confusion is how many roster spots the Broncos are willing to devote to that position. Because if they only have 5 active ends, then someone has to be the odd man out, and as of today, it looks like Lang or Dumervil. But as I said, I don't how many the Broncos normally keep.

dogfish
08-06-2007, 08:39 PM
he's correct, buff. . . don't read anything into the depth chart at this point-- dumervil isn't going anywhere! the only reason he's third on the depth chart is because the team (quite correctly) isn't looking at him as a potential starter. . . if EE and engelberger are the starters, and one of them goes down, crowder would probably be next in line. . . dumervil is going to be a big part of our nickel and dime packages, though-- as i posted previously, he's already working there in TC, just as he did last year. . . why would we get rid of the guy who (especially if moss is out) is the best pass rusher on our team?

DeLa55
08-07-2007, 05:02 PM
[QUOTE=dogfish;1890020]only surprise is louis green. . .[/QUOTE

Also engleberger?

dogfish
08-07-2007, 05:54 PM
[QUOTE=dogfish;1890020]only surprise is louis green. . .[/QUOTE

Also engleberger?

not really. . . i was a bit surprised to hear that he'd been running with the first team in camp, but since he has, it's no surprise to see him there on the depth chart. . .

Spice 1
08-10-2007, 09:11 AM
I'm not too juiced about this one. What's the deal with the strong side line backer? I hope DJ don't get caught inside. I hope Engelberger can bring it too. Dumerville will prove himself on passing downs in game situations just like he did last year, so I'm not too woried about him. I do look forward to seeing our Nickel and Dime packages with Foxworth and Cox though.

dogfish
08-10-2007, 10:46 AM
I'm not too juiced about this one. What's the deal with the strong side line backer? I hope DJ don't get caught inside. I hope Engelberger can bring it too. Dumerville will prove himself on passing downs in game situations just like he did last year, so I'm not too woried about him. I do look forward to seeing our Nickel and Dime packages with Foxworth and Cox though.

huh? dj IS going to be inside, they've been saying it ever since al was released. . . .

Spice 1
08-10-2007, 11:35 AM
huh? dj IS going to be inside, they've been saying it ever since al was released. . . .

I'm talking about blocks

dogfish
08-10-2007, 12:01 PM
I'm talking about blocks

whoops. . . my bad!


:heh:

basbllplaya26
08-11-2007, 10:12 AM
if im not mistaken, depth charts in the preseason mean nothing at all.. i do recall last year Ron Dayne was our number one running back over both the bells.. or was that two years ago :confused: