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  • Nixhex78
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    Originally posted by orangenblue420
    Nix I never said I didnt think there needed to be changes I just think people need to quit bytchin about the Yanks specifically

    Of course the game and fans would benefit from a more even playing field - but there is more that meets the eye than what we as fans see, IMO - I am sure there are owners who would rather pocket most of the profit rather than spend it on their team, prob. owners who for the principle of it dont wanna pay these whiney ass pu$$y players $100's of millions of dollars - but the money is not the only issue that makes baseball less popular than football -there are too many games in baseball, season is too long, thats what kills the NBA and NHL - everyone knows that - you cant change that though - so you can make all the changes you want as far as the money goes - I dont believe it will make all that much difference in the long run as far as fan popularity is concerned
    The blame shouldn't be strictly placed on the Yankee$. Of course there are other teams that have high payrolls. These teams are trying to compete with the Yankees but they are just as guilty. I also know all the other factors that make football more popular. That really has nothing to do with the arguement.

    Do you think that if baseball had parody and teams like the Pirates, Brewers, Royals, Devil Rays, etc had a fighting chance ever year that the popularity wouldn't rise? You don't think that the fans in these cities would start paying more attention to baseball if they thought they had the slightest chance to win?

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  • orangenblue420
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    Thats a problem with all pro sports IMO - expansion is killer on talent and the fact that everyone wants to be the best to make the most causes the drug problem - and having to much time and money causes drug problems too - which is why I dont have a problem - I just have fun

    But I digress - we need to stop expanding sports - and stop paying them so much money

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  • NJBRONCOSFAN
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    and that's not to mention this whole steroid problem...and the lack of talent...

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  • orangenblue420
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    Nix I never said I didnt think there needed to be changes I just think people need to quit bytchin about the Yanks specifically

    Of course the game and fans would benefit from a more even playing field - but there is more that meets the eye than what we as fans see, IMO - I am sure there are owners who would rather pocket most of the profit rather than spend it on their team, prob. owners who for the principle of it dont wanna pay these whiney ass pu$$y players $100's of millions of dollars - but the money is not the only issue that makes baseball less popular than football -there are too many games in baseball, season is too long, thats what kills the NBA and NHL - everyone knows that - you cant change that though - so you can make all the changes you want as far as the money goes - I dont believe it will make all that much difference in the long run as far as fan popularity is concerned

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  • Nixhex78
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    Let's put it this way. Let's say the NFL doesn't have a cap. Say the New York Giants could spend $190 million on payroll. The Denver Broncos only have about $60 million to spend on payroll. Would you still be calling it fair that certain teams could sign triple the payroll the Broncos could? Would you still think it's cool that the Broncos have to catch lightening in a bottle to even make the playoffs, let alone win the Superbowl? Why do you think the NFL has taken over baseball? It has taken over because damn near every team/fan can go in knowing they have a legitimate chance to win. They know their team isn't going to lose to a team stacked with 15 pro bowlers ever year! Baseball just isn't that way and their loss in popularity proves this. Geesh, you guys really need to not be so myopic. Make all the excuses you want. The fact is baseball isn't right and they are finally making steps to improve it. Hence revenue sharing. Hopefully the playing field will even out someday and bring baseball back to the great american pastime it used to be.

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  • Booher
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    a hard cap is the only answer. baseball will soon see that , revenue sharing is a joke

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  • orangenblue420
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    Its true - even when they sucked they still made money - if your city doenst support your team take it somewhere else - if your owner doesnt put the money he makes back into the team - dont support him - but you cant begrudge a team that has a good owner and great fans -

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  • NJBRONCOSFAN
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    Yea, right on horsie!!! If you want to complain about this revenue problem, blame the fans who don't show up to support the team. Is it anyone's fault that Yankee Stadium fills up for just about every game they play?

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  • horsesense
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    Not only that but lets not forget about the revenue sharing.. They also have to kick back more. I aint a Yankee fan (as most of you know) but is it fair that they have to kick back some of the profits cause teams like the Expos cant make it w/o it?

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  • NJBRONCOSFAN
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    Baseball, like just about everything else, is a business first, and a game second. Steinbrenner uses money he makes. The yankees, more than any other team in professional sports, deserves to not have a salary cap. They have more revenue than any team in professional sports. What would be unfair is if they had to go along with a cap.

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  • Booher
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    Last I checked this is not life its a GAME and it's supposed to equal for all teams to have a chance to win. And it's not,If only mlb gets rid of that wuss of a comish selig something would be done. If something is not done soon the mlb will alleniate a good majority of the fans and reapairing it will not be an option look at the nfl and nba both have caps and great competitve balance and the nhl is now going the way of a cap if mlb doesn't come on board I fear the game will go bankrupt. When I was younger I really like baseball but It doesn't matter soccer is my favorite sport then football and basically those are the only 2 sports I give a crap about.

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  • NJBRONCOSFAN
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    Life isn't fair

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  • Booher
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    ok then lower it to 50 to accomidate all teams.........Fair is Fair and baseball now is not fair.

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  • orangenblue420
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    OK - you have a 90 million cap - what about the 24 or so teams who cant even afford the 90 million - you all would still bytch cause the Yanks could afford the 90 while 24 other teams still couldnt

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  • Booher
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    it's not fair though just totally unfair. The playing field needs to be equal for ALL teams. This is the SOLE reason that baseball is losing it's popularity. The game has no credibility anymore if the yankees win there definitly needs to be an asterisk next to th team in the record books. This is such a joke. Look at the royals they had to completely eliminate their payroll just to keep playing. I say 90 million cap and thats it the owners need to hold out and let the crybaby players strike. Because it will be the fans who win in the long run.

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