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  • #16
    Re: Re: Re: Good books & authors (Sci-fi, Fantasy, Mystery)

    Originally posted by Javalon
    Well, Sci-Fi and Fantasy aren't for everybody and I won't hold that against ya.

    As far as Robert Jordan goes, I used to think he was a good author, although never on the level that some viewed him, but his last few books have convinced me that he is only writing for money now and is drawing his series out interminably. Now, I have no problem with authors trying to make money but Jordan has gone way overboard. His storyline has ground to a halt; the final 100 pages of his last book and the first 400 pages of his current book all took place over the span of a single day. And in the latter's case nothing of note occured. It was downright boring and I've finally given up on him because his last three books have been progressively worse in this regard. And I'm sure you really wanted to know all that.

    You might recommend Robin Hobb to your wife or read her yourself if you're willing to give Fantasy (not the Elves and Goblins variety) another try. Hobb is a far better writer than Jordan could hope to be and, in my opinion, a better story-teller, as well. I've rarely been as emotionally attached to fictional characters as I have become to those created by Hobb.

    Finally, for you or your wife, I would recommend Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. It's Sci-Fi but don't let that deter you, it isn't hard sci-fi. It's just a great story that I've recommended thousands of times over the years and have never had one disappointed customer. I'm not claiming it should win the Nobel Prize or anything but it's a great read.

    Oh, I do own a couple of Tom Robbins' books but I haven't read him yet. Part of the problem with owning or working in a bookstore is the pile of books that you intend to read is constantly growing faster than you can read them. :0
    Oh, I dig some sci-fi and fantasy, I am just not good with authors of that genre. Arthur C. Clarke of course, but I can' thjinlk of other authors I have read in that genre.

    Thanks for the author recommedation. I am always looking for something, as is my wife.

    You hit the nail on the head with Jordan for me. TOOOOOOOOOOOOO SLOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW.

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    • #17
      Re: Re: Re: Re: Good books & authors (Sci-fi, Fantasy, Mystery)

      Originally posted by Jared
      Oh, I dig some sci-fi and fantasy, I am just not good with authors of that genre. Arthur C. Clarke of course, but I can' thjinlk of other authors I have read in that genre.

      Thanks for the author recommedation. I am always looking for something, as is my wife.

      You hit the nail on the head with Jordan for me. TOOOOOOOOOOOOO SLOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW.
      No problem. If you or your wife read either book, please post back here what you thought. And I promise not to feel rebuked if you aren't as ecstatic about them as I was.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by orang/blu in LA
        LOL. i know, much easier said than done. i'm a perfectionist as well, which is why i CAN'T SEEM TO STOP EDITING THIS BOOK! Fighting the urge to fix things is a hard one. people keep telling me that it's ready - that it just needs someone who really knows what they're doing (ie. editor) to look at it and give final thoughts, but how can i let someone like that look at it when i know that there are too many things that still need to be changed? Changing one word here or there makes a difference to me - it could be never-ending. To that people say to me that that's editors' jobs, and that they wouldn't have jobs if things arrived to them in perfect form. But still, i can't seem to even print a copy without looking at the first page and thinking i just wasted 530 pages of paper b/c already something needs to be changed... So i don't know. Guess we're in the same boat, just sitting in different locations.
        Hey, when you get published, let me know the particulars and I'll make sure we carry it in our store. I'll even read it regardless of whether or not it's one of my standard genres.

        By the way, what genre is it? Have you thought of getting an agent or submitting directly to editors at certain publishers?
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Javalon
          Hey, when you get publised, let me know the particulars and I'll make sure we carry it in our store. I'll even read it regardless of whether or not it's one of my standard genres.

          By the way, what genre is it? Have you thought of getting an agent or submitting directly to editors at certain publishers?
          Thanks!!! It's literary fiction (or at least i hope it is! haha). I need to get an agent or find a way to get it submitted, but haven't gotten that far. i have a few connections out here, to agents who rep books for films, but i'd need to see if they could get it to the right people, the agents that submit books for publishing etc... most of them are in NY i think. i thought about submitting it to agents and certain publishers in NY, but there's the question of how far unsolicited submissions get - so at this point i'm really just hoping that someone i know out here can do something.... Do you know much about that? about submissions etc? Oh, and for some crazy reason there are a few BRONCOS references in the book! couldn't resist.
          Orange/Blue Girl in L.A.

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          • #20
            Re: Good books & authors (Sci-fi, Fantasy, Mystery)

            Originally posted by Javalon
            So, let's hear your favorites...
            I'm a Chiefs fan, so take this with a grain of salt.

            Gene Roddenberry's Earth: Final Conflict--Legacy, by Glenn R. Sixbury (Paperback - June 2002)
            Despite all the hype, once you finally get a hammer, you don't hammer nearly as much as you think you will.

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            • #21
              Re: Re: Good books & authors (Sci-fi, Fantasy, Mystery)

              Originally posted by ReasonableChief
              I'm a Chiefs fan, so take this with a grain of salt.

              Gene Roddenberry's Earth: Final Conflict--Legacy, by Glenn R. Sixbury (Paperback - June 2002)
              Contrary to popular belief, most Chiefs fans are just normal folk like the rest of us. If only you didn't cheer for the wrong team...

              Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, RC. Wasn't that a TV series? Roddenberry branching out from Star Trek before he died? I can't remember that much about it.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by orang/blu in LA
                Thanks!!! It's literary fiction (or at least i hope it is! haha). I need to get an agent or find a way to get it submitted, but haven't gotten that far. i have a few connections out here, to agents who rep books for films, but i'd need to see if they could get it to the right people, the agents that submit books for publishing etc... most of them are in NY i think. i thought about submitting it to agents and certain publishers in NY, but there's the question of how far unsolicited submissions get - so at this point i'm really just hoping that someone i know out here can do something.... Do you know much about that? about submissions etc? Oh, and for some crazy reason there are a few BRONCOS references in the book! couldn't resist.
                Well, if you get the right agent and he/she likes your writing, he'll have a much better chance of getting an editor to read it than you would submitting it on your own. Of course, you'll have to pony up a commission for him/her.

                Of all the big publishers out there, Random House would be my top suggestion. They are by far the most professional and easiest to deal with, at least from a bookstore's perspective. When we're selecting our inventory, we usually take more chances on author debuts from the publishers we like the most.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Javalon
                  Of all the big publishers out there, Random House would be my top suggestion. They are by far the most professional and easiest to deal with, at least from a bookstore's perspective. When we're selecting our inventory, we usually take more chances on author debuts from the publishers we like the most.
                  Really? that's good to know! okay, so i must include Random House in my nightly prayers and all my excuses to make wishes. Dear God, please keep the Broncos safe and please make Random House want me... Thanks for that tip, i always wondered if the relationship between bookseller and publisher had an impact on choice.

                  By the way, i'm reading another great book. Not very far into it as i just started, but it's by Alice McDermott, one of my favorite authors. It's called Child of My Heart. Her prose is so beautiful it's almost painful.
                  Orange/Blue Girl in L.A.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Re: Re: Good books & authors (Sci-fi, Fantasy, Mystery)

                    Originally posted by Javalon
                    Contrary to popular belief, most Chiefs fans are just normal folk like the rest of us. If only you didn't cheer for the wrong team...

                    Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, RC. Wasn't that a TV series? Roddenberry branching out from Star Trek before he died? I can't remember that much about it.
                    Yeah it was a TV show. The TV show sucked, but the book was decent from what I can remember.

                    I'm not sure what category you would classify him under but I have always like Tom Clancy.
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                    • #25
                      Re: Re: Re: Good books & authors (Sci-fi, Fantasy, Mystery)

                      Originally posted by Javalon
                      Contrary to popular belief, most Chiefs fans are just normal folk like the rest of us. If only you didn't cheer for the wrong team...

                      Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, RC. Wasn't that a TV series? Roddenberry branching out from Star Trek before he died? I can't remember that much about it.
                      I know it's lazy on my part, but this link will explain things better than I can. Plus, I went to high school with the guy, so I'm biased.

                      http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...lance&n=507846
                      Despite all the hype, once you finally get a hammer, you don't hammer nearly as much as you think you will.

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                      • #26
                        Clancy is great, although imho only the ones that are actually authored by him. The ones with a co-author or that just use his name are hugely inferior.

                        As long as we're talking about best selling big name authors...

                        Grisham is ok, but I really enjoyed A Painted House. By far his best work, and much more real than the legal thrillers.


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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by LawDog
                          Clancy is great, although imho only the ones that are actually authored by him. The ones with a co-author or that just use his name are hugely inferior.

                          As long as we're talking about best selling big name authors...

                          Grisham is ok, but I really enjoyed A Painted House. By far his best work, and much more real than the legal thrillers.
                          That's funny because most of our customers who read Grisham get all pissed off when he strays from his standard legal thriller.

                          And the vast majority of people seem to agree with you on the Clancy books that are supposedly co-authored. It seems more likely that he's just coming up with an idea and having someone else do the work while he gets paid for putting his name on it. Not a bad deal if you can manage it.
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                          • #28
                            For quick reads (which is all I seem to get with 3 kids, etc.) I really enjoy the Bernie Rhodenbarr series by Lawrence Block. Not that I advocate any sort of lawless activity - but well written and entertaining.

                            BTW, does Grisham have anything new coming out?


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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by LawDog
                              For quick reads (which is all I seem to get with 3 kids, etc.) I really enjoy the Bernie Rhodenbarr series by Lawrence Block. Not that I advocate any sort of lawless activity - but well written and entertaining.

                              BTW, does Grisham have anything new coming out?
                              Well, he just had Bleachers come out in September, but it's not a legal thriller.

                              He has a new legal thriller due out on February 3rd called The Last Juror.
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                              • #30
                                I haven't read Bleachers yet, maybe I'll get it for my wife for Christmas. What did you think of it?


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