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    OK....I have had some work done on my teeth over the years. Ranging from root canals, to two broken teeth that needed to be removed, piece by piece, to unnecessary extra work that was done prior to knowing that I had a bit of a TMJ issue (I actually had oral surgery above the root of a molar because my dentist failed to recognize TMJ pain versus other root related pain). I have had more than my share of needles and sometimes painful outcomes. But what has happened of late is what I would describe as "almost unfair", even if I have had some influence on how my dental history turned out. Hey, I brushed and flossed, and had regular appointments, but some of us are a little unlucky in the tooth department.)

    So, here me out, and please join in if you wish to discuss your dental woes as well. And yes, please mention if you are a TMJ victim, and how well you are able to control it. I actually wrote this partly because I want to encourage folks with jaw pains and headaches and the like, to do some research into TMJ....you may be surprised, and actually pleased to know that you have it. Many, many folks have suffered unnecessarily over the years, because either they did not know about TMJ, or their own dentists/doctors did not recognize the symptoms and the solution.

    Back to my latest fun story. Recently my lower back molar has been more sensitive than usual, and the TMJ has flared up. MY regular dentist/TMJ specialist is retiring so I hear, and he is on an extended vacation (about 2 months!!!). So I go to another dentist, who advised that the filling I have is very old, and the tooth is getting close to root canal / crown country. So, we scope out the tooth, and let it settle after checking for deeper issues. meanwhile I avoid eating on that side, for the tooth and the bite issue I have. It is recommended I get a new guard as well (and he can do it)....but for those who know the TMJ game, you do not want a new guard while mulling over the thought of doing major work on a tooth that has a large impact on the guard you design. But he builds one, assuring me that it can be salvaged if we do more work on the molar.

    Hey I'm desperate! My dentist is flying the coup, and the new guy claims he can work wonders. So we build a guard, and guess what...it is not working for me. Anytime I get a new or built up guard, the relief is pretty quick. The muscles calm down, and life is good. Wear it as required (night time and when I work out) and I can go for years! Not this time. Plus I am out a few bills!

    So I go back to the newer dentist, and he is a good soul, and wants to build another one, for free. So his assistant takes a mold of my top teeth, and we agree to hold off til I return from my trip (to visit the kids).

    .....The day before I leave, I get the mold taken. I come home, and bite into some pizza. My tooth beside my front two top teeth breaks off with a crackling sound.....it is one of my crowned teeth (that's another long story!!!), and the worst possible news, the crown and the tooth break off. In other words, this is not an easy fix! And guess what, it's just after closing time, and I can not reach my new dentist. There is no emergency number, and we're flying early the next day. And now I have this hockey player smile!!

    So....phone around, and find a dentist who will take me later that evening. She tells me that there is no guarantee that she can cement the tooth back on. There is little tooth left to hold onto. But she does a fantastic job cementing it, BUT warns me not to chew on anything hard, as it will probably come out. Not a long term solution!

    So the good news....I can visit the kids with a smile, though the eating is going to be slow. And now I have to chew again on the molar I am trying to avoid, as I can not safely chew close to the cemented tooth. This is getting complicated!! And how is my bite going to deal with all this??

    So yes, our kids are very good at planning things, so every day we go to a different and "decent" restaurant. Even the walking tour includes a lot of fun food to taste test. The first night was incredible, as the owner is a famous Canadian chef, who is actually working the night. I eat very slow!!! We get to meet her, pics and all. It is a great night! But will it (the tooth) last???

    ~~~~~~

    We returned today. The tooth is still in my mouth. But I must be careful. And I must also be careful not to damage the molar, and mess with my jaw.

    There are solutions. Drink!!!! Eat baby food. Realistically, eat regular food slow and easy, and in small pieces. And yes, get the whole mess re-evaluated, and get my old dentist to do the bite assessment. But heck, I can't even attempt to get another upper mold....because if I do, that cemented situation will probably end up in the mold, and not in my gums!

    Always fun!!

    Oh yah...one more thing. My dental insurance has run out for this year. So I have 4.5 months to go, and I can not even imagine lasting that long. Methinks the drink I speak of will be more "powerful" than what one would expect in terms of a hearty meal!!! (<<<full set of teeth, as of this moment!)

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    ^^^^I think you spell it "m-o-l-d".....some might use "m-o-u-l-d"

    Carry on.......

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    • #3
      Sorry to hear of this toothy mess, my friend. I hope your chompers are back to chomping in no time at all. :thumb:

      Dental woes are certainly no fun.
      To infinity...and beyond.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Lumiere View Post
        Sorry to hear of this toothy mess, my friend. I hope your chompers are back to chomping in no time at all. :thumb:

        Dental woes are certainly no fun.
        Thx GMan...I accept certain levels of pain/inconvenience, but having a perfectly good crowned tooth break in two was not in the cards. OMG....you should have seen the food placed before me on this vaca!! The first night was a set menu of 5 courses. Then a beautiful Italian restaurant, followed by a great food tour, with enough to keep you full for half a day, followed by Southwestern cuisine, and finally a great hamburger/beer joint. Slow and steady. Sure missed taking big bites, which blend all the great tastes together, but not a big deal. Really big on the pancake breakfast and other egg related morning treats!

        There's always a way!

        I think the proof will come when I accidentally bang the tooth onto another one, and if it holds, I may get a bit more adventurous. My bigger fear is how they propose to fix it. Not even sure what that might entail.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CanDB View Post
          Thx GMan...I accept certain levels of pain/inconvenience, but having a perfectly good crowned tooth break in two was not in the cards. OMG....you should have seen the food placed before me on this vaca!! The first night was a set menu of 5 courses. Then a beautiful Italian restaurant, followed by a great food tour, with enough to keep you full for half a day, followed by Southwestern cuisine, and finally a great hamburger/beer joint. Slow and steady. Sure missed taking big bites, which blend all the great tastes together, but not a big deal. Really big on the pancake breakfast and other egg related morning treats!

          There's always a way!

          I think the proof will come when I accidentally bang the tooth onto another one, and if it holds, I may get a bit more adventurous. My bigger fear is how they propose to fix it. Not even sure what that might entail.
          A bridge - utilizing the teeth on either side.
          or
          An implant.

          Good luck.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by AugustInHouston View Post
            A bridge - utilizing the teeth on either side.
            or
            An implant.

            Good luck.
            I know....not crazy about either option.

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            • #7
              Try having your dentist smoosh your cheek, when your face is all you can feel
              "Happiness is just an illusion, filled with sadness and confusion." Jimmy Ruffin

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CanDB View Post
                Thx GMan...I accept certain levels of pain/inconvenience, but having a perfectly good crowned tooth break in two was not in the cards. OMG....you should have seen the food placed before me on this vaca!! The first night was a set menu of 5 courses. Then a beautiful Italian restaurant, followed by a great food tour, with enough to keep you full for half a day, followed by Southwestern cuisine, and finally a great hamburger/beer joint. Slow and steady. Sure missed taking big bites, which blend all the great tastes together, but not a big deal. Really big on the pancake breakfast and other egg related morning treats!

                There's always a way!

                I think the proof will come when I accidentally bang the tooth onto another one, and if it holds, I may get a bit more adventurous. My bigger fear is how they propose to fix it. Not even sure what that might entail.
                Egad, that sounds like culinary torture…struggling to eat tasty vacation foods. Well, at least you didn’t have to blend it all up into some sort of gourmet gumbo. Ohhh, there’s a nickname – “gumbo!”

                I kid, but seriously bud, I hope you can get that resolved without too much further discomfort. Get your chompers in shape now, and ready for the season opening kickoff (where the football munchies actually matter)! :thumb:
                To infinity...and beyond.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lumiere View Post
                  Egad, that sounds like culinary torture…struggling to eat tasty vacation foods. Well, at least you didn’t have to blend it all up into some sort of gourmet gumbo. Ohhh, there’s a nickname – “gumbo!”

                  I kid, but seriously bud, I hope you can get that resolved without too much further discomfort. Get your chompers in shape now, and ready for the season opening kickoff (where the football munchies actually matter)! :thumb:
                  I'm good pal! Nothing too bad given what others suffer. But you watch, I'll do fine until I get all pumped watching some game, and forget that I am not to chow down on some hard food!! That will be a challenge!

                  As for TMJ.....I am hoping that some folks will learn something about it, perhaps to even help their particular issue. I've heard of young people getting diagnosed properly, after experiencing jaw pains and headaches for some time. It's all about the bite, and if you are misaligned, it can cause serious muscle exertion. Nothing to be ashamed of, just a slightly off bite. One of my kids has a minor issue with it, and her guard is only needed once in a long while. So feel free to ask questions in this thread if you wish. There is relief if diagnosed.

                  As for broken teeth/crowns.....that's on me!!!!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CanDB View Post
                    I'm good pal! Nothing too bad given what others suffer. But you watch, I'll do fine until I get all pumped watching some game, and forget that I am not to chow down on some hard food!! That will be a challenge!

                    As for TMJ.....I am hoping that some folks will learn something about it, perhaps to even help their particular issue. I've heard of young people getting diagnosed properly, after experiencing jaw pains and headaches for some time. It's all about the bite, and if you are misaligned, it can cause serious muscle exertion. Nothing to be ashamed of, just a slightly off bite. One of my kids has a minor issue with it, and her guard is only needed once in a long while. So feel free to ask questions in this thread if you wish. There is relief if diagnosed.

                    As for broken teeth/crowns.....that's on me!!!!
                    I've never heard of TMJ before. I'll look into it...that's interesting. Thanks for sharing that. :thumb:

                    Just keep your chewing in first gear!
                    To infinity...and beyond.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lumiere View Post
                      I've never heard of TMJ before. I'll look into it...that's interesting. Thanks for sharing that. :thumb:

                      Just keep your chewing in first gear!
                      I have arthritis of the TMJ, AND I use 2 different medications to keep it tolerable
                      Last edited by HUMCALC; 08-16-2017, 04:47 PM.
                      "Happiness is just an illusion, filled with sadness and confusion." Jimmy Ruffin

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CanDB View Post
                        ^^^^I think you spell it "m-o-l-d".....some might use "m-o-u-l-d"

                        Carry on.......
                        You Canadians are always trying to put "u" in places it doesn't belong!! its spelled mold and color and honor!

                        Sorry about the chompers though
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dipablo View Post
                          You Canadians are always trying to put "u" in places it doesn't belong!! its spelled mold and color and honor!

                          Sorry about the chompers though
                          Thank "U"!!!!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by CanDB View Post
                            I'm good pal! Nothing too bad given what others suffer. But you watch, I'll do fine until I get all pumped watching some game, and forget that I am not to chow down on some hard food!! That will be a challenge!

                            As for TMJ.....I am hoping that some folks will learn something about it, perhaps to even help their particular issue. I've heard of young people getting diagnosed properly, after experiencing jaw pains and headaches for some time. It's all about the bite, and if you are misaligned, it can cause serious muscle exertion. Nothing to be ashamed of, just a slightly off bite. One of my kids has a minor issue with it, and her guard is only needed once in a long while. So feel free to ask questions in this thread if you wish. There is relief if diagnosed.

                            As for broken teeth/crowns.....that's on me!!!!
                            Advil works wonders on my TMJ, as does Tramadol, but you need a prescription for it.
                            "Happiness is just an illusion, filled with sadness and confusion." Jimmy Ruffin

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by HUMCALC View Post
                              Advil works wonders on my TMJ, as does Tramadol, but you need a prescription for it.
                              Do you have a guard? If so, was it measured via muscle relaxants, in trying to find exactly where your muscles need to be. This aligns with the guard design. I know it works because it can completely change my facial pains within a day or two.

                              In older times, folks like Burt Reynolds suffered with it for a long time, because there was no such relief known to all. The problem is, the guard design process can cost a fair amount, and if you do additional work on your teeth afterwards, your dentist has to make sure the guard will still fit afterward, or else we are talking new guard. But a dentist who knows both TMJ and regular dentistry can keep things aligned.

                              Yes, advil and other meds may help, but they are not the ultimate solution. Having a device designed to cause your muscle memory to bite properly is the solution.

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