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  • Originally posted by Hadez View Post

    For scientists I think they are use to these kinds of frustrations. It still must be trying on their patience but I think they have a lot of experience in looking at the bigger picture and the over time view of things. This combined with how the Scientific Method works in general allows scientists to be more patient that other folk.

    With that said I am sure they feel strongly about the things they have spent months and years building knowledge on. Mean while they trying to convey as much as they can to some folk who may stop listening after minutes....maybe less time.

    I been listening to a lot of scientists over the past 11 months...some of them really have good skills are conveying complex information to the average person in a way we can understand. Even the good ones I may need to listen to a couple times to fully wrap my head around their research. Lot of people are not willing to spend much of their Attention Economy on subjects.

    Covid19 is just one of many things going on in the world right now that is going to force the human race to evolve / grow up.
    I've always been impressed with highly technical folks who can talk in layperson lingo. I picked up on that many years ago, that it was an excellent way for such experts to get promoted into management positions, if that's the path they wanted. For example, there was a point when our IT people had a bigger role in the company, beyond install and maintenance, but also more into corporate strategy. And the ones who could say something in easy to understand dialogue were usually the ones to get promoted...along with other valued traits of course.

    But I always appreciate when someone can take things that many of us do not understand and say it in a way that is very much simplified but still accurate. As opposed to some of the "nerds" or other technical experts who do not even try to communicate to us, in our zone of understanding. They keep talking like we're equally knowledgeable. Not that they all want to be confusing, because that's their world and it seems easier to them.

    Don't get me wrong, we will always need specialists....but a little advice to those who can be that and more, in terms of leadership: try to discuss with/educate the rest of us in common language. You will be surprised how many more of us will understand, and even research on our own as a result. I know, not easy to do sometimes, but especially if you want to broaden your career horizons.
    Last edited by CanDB; 02-06-2021, 10:33 AM.

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    • Sadly, 2021 was the first year in a long time that The US average life expectancy dropped by a year! That is a significant reversal. Yes, many older folks passed away, but it's people, many that would have lived on, maybe for years....and many, many broken hearts as well.

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      • Originally posted by CanDB View Post
        Sadly, 2021 was the first year in a long time that The US average life expectancy dropped by a year! That is a significant reversal. Yes, many older folks passed away, but it's people, many that would have lived on, maybe for years....and many, many broken hearts as well.
        Truly sad and this pandemic has reinforced that life can be and is fragile and heartbreaking. The first time I saw a video of a person slowly dying of this horrible disease in a hospital and their family members waving goodbye on the other side of a window was awful and tragic. One of the first things I thought of was, what if that was my mother or father or other family member?

        When I see people in stores not wearing masks I feel like walking up to them and screaming, "Apparently you wouldn't mind at all if you had to wave goodbye to a close loved one through a window as they waved back crying knowing death was imminent. How callus and inhumane you total scumbag." I haven't said those words to anyone YET but I have firmly told a few people to put a mask on, they didn't have the right to possibly make people sick and maybe die. That's how I feel and I won't back off until this killer of beautiful human beings is gone. The long and wide trail of needlessly broken hearts needs to end ASAP. Stay safe brothers and sisters.
        Utah Bronco Freak

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        • Originally posted by jazzbodog View Post

          Truly sad and this pandemic has reinforced that life can be and is fragile and heartbreaking. The first time I saw a video of a person slowly dying of this horrible disease in a hospital and their family members waving goodbye on the other side of a window was awful and tragic. One of the first things I thought of was, what if that was my mother or father or other family member?

          When I see people in stores not wearing masks I feel like walking up to them and screaming, "Apparently you wouldn't mind at all if you had to wave goodbye to a close loved one through a window as they waved back crying knowing death was imminent. How callus and inhumane you total scumbag." I haven't said those words to anyone YET but I have firmly told a few people to put a mask on, they didn't have the right to possibly make people sick and maybe die. That's how I feel and I won't back off until this killer of beautiful human beings is gone. The long and wide trail of needlessly broken hearts needs to end ASAP. Stay safe brothers and sisters.
          It's because you are humane and wise. I bid you good health, and all your loved ones.

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          • Originally posted by CanDB View Post

            It's because you are humane and wise. I bid you good health, and all your loved ones.
            Same to you Can....Thanks!
            Utah Bronco Freak

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            • Originally posted by jazzbodog View Post

              Same to you Can....Thanks!
              And folks wonder why I keep coming back!!



              jazz.....

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              • Man gets Covid twice while in Coma. Went into coma weeks before Covid lockdown

                https://www.newsweek.com/covid-teena...lavill-1566142


                Basically just highlights how we still have ways to go until we have this figured out.
                Time to build on the win and grow the team from some solid play higher level of play

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                • Other than the variants of late, this pandemic has tracked very closely to how the experts predicted. Two or more waves. The need for testing, testing, testing and tracing/control. The worrisome impacts of gatherings, often to do with holiday events. Using socially smart practices including masks, would minimize the impacts. Flattening curves would help the medical system (incl. hospitals/staff/equipment) survive the worst of outbreaks. And even the variants were described to some degree by the possibility of virus mutations along the way.

                  But the light is becoming a little clearer, with the help of the vaccines, and of course, the support of the community (all of us), in trying to do our part. The end may not be near, but the overall picture is getting better and better.

                  So I wonder.....why stop using masks now??? Are we not aware of the fact that people are still getting very sick, and dying? Is it ok to prolong the efforts of our frontliners, just because someone says it's ok??

                  Lets ride this thing through....wisely. Unselfishly.

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                  • Originally posted by Hadez View Post
                    Man gets Covid twice while in Coma. Went into coma weeks before Covid lockdown

                    https://www.newsweek.com/covid-teena...lavill-1566142


                    Basically just highlights how we still have ways to go until we have this figured out.
                    All viruses have a few odd, rare side effects that happen but again, very rare and it may or may not happen to one age group or race, etc. Human physiology is complex and can be extremely diverse from one human to the next. And I believe we are still learning / seeing new, unusual, odd medical issues that we didn't know about. The science regarding re-infection is still unknown and a bit foggy to medical experts. Trying to nail down all peculiar and strange aspects of new viruses is very challenging....and science, at times, has to learn as they go along.

                    Nothing is perfect in life but striving for perfection can make a huge difference.
                    Utah Bronco Freak

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                    • My wife and I are booked for our 1st vaccine shot in a couple weeks.

                      Yippee!!!

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                      • Originally posted by CanDB View Post
                        My wife and I are booked for our 1st vaccine shot in a couple weeks.

                        Yippee!!!
                        That's great!
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                        • Originally posted by CanDB View Post
                          My wife and I are booked for our 1st vaccine shot in a couple weeks.

                          Yippee!!!
                          Excellent Can!

                          My wife and I got our 2nd Pfizer vaccine shot on St. Paddy's day.
                          Getting the 1st vaccine shot is very satisfying but getting the 2nd really snuffs out any remaining anxiety.

                          It is definitely a "Yippee" feeling!
                          Utah Bronco Freak

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                          • Originally posted by jazzbodog View Post

                            Excellent Can!

                            My wife and I got our 2nd Pfizer vaccine shot on St. Paddy's day.
                            Getting the 1st vaccine shot is very satisfying but getting the 2nd really snuffs out any remaining anxiety.

                            It is definitely a "Yippee" feeling!
                            When I go for my vaccine I'm going to tell them to "give me your best shot!"....I hope they aren't good boxers!!

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                            • Originally posted by CanDB View Post

                              When I go for my vaccine I'm going to tell them to "give me your best shot!"....I hope they aren't good boxers!!
                              I'll bet many of them have heard that one a few times. But they might get one on you and reply..."No problem, drop your pants, right cheek or left cheek sir?
                              Utah Bronco Freak

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                              • Originally posted by jazzbodog View Post

                                I'll bet many of them have heard that one a few times. But they might get one on you and reply..."No problem, drop your pants, right cheek or left cheek sir?
                                Yikes!!!!

                                I won't go into details, but I once had minor surgery, and my Doctor was a character. As I was led to the operating room, he looked down at me and ask what specifically we were doing today (as in, which side?). You had to know this guy!!!

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