Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Corona virus

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • So now you two are done, with this...

    :thumb:
    sigpic

    Comment


    • Photos inside Wuhan lab which stores 1,500 virus strains. The photos were posted on Twitter in 2018 and the tweet was since deleted. It will be interesting to see if the photos can be validated.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-strains.html

      Comment


      • Originally posted by EddieMac View Post
        So now you two are done, with this...

        :thumb:
        I moved on to the lab in Wuhan...

        Comment


        • Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
          I moved on to the lab in Wuhan...
          Hahha. Scary place to be!
          sigpic

          Comment


          • I am not a vaccine guy, I have my personal view on these nasty poisons. My growing fear is that certain rich and powerful people in charge are going to make taking it mandatory to "get back to normal". I would and am warning everyone to not take it when available. A true vaccine to this virus "should" take years to develop and they (Bill Gates) is trying to push this through in months??? NO THANK YOU!!! Do yourselves a favor and research this man and his true agenda

            Comment


            • Early antibody testing suggests COVID-19 infections in L.A. County greatly exceed documented cases

              https://news.usc.edu/168987/antibody...ngeles-county/

              USC and the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health on Monday released preliminary results from a collaborative scientific study that suggests infections from the new coronavirus are far more widespread — and the fatality rate much lower — in L.A. County than previously thought.

              The results are from the first round of an ongoing study by USC researchers and county health officials. They will be conducting antibody testing over time on a series of representative samples of adults to determine the scope and spread of the pandemic across the county.

              Based on the results of the first round of testing, the research team estimates that approximately 4.1% of the county’s adult population has an antibody to the virus. Adjusting this estimate for the statistical margin of error implies about 2.8% to 5.6% of the county’s adult population has an antibody to the virus — which translates to approximately 221,000 to 442,000 adults in the county who have been infected. That estimate is 28 to 55 times higher than the 7,994 confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the county at the time of the study in early April. The number of COVID-related deaths in the county has now surpassed 600.

              “We haven’t known the true extent of COVID-19 infections in our community because we have only tested people with symptoms, and the availability of tests has been limited,” said lead investigator Neeraj Sood, professor of public policy at the USC Price School for Public Policy and senior fellow at the USC Schaeffer Center for Health Policy and Economics. “The estimates also suggest that we might have to recalibrate disease prediction models and rethink public health strategies.”

              What do the antibody testing results mean for controlling COVID-19?

              The results have important implications for public health efforts to control the local epidemic.

              “These results indicate that many persons may have been unknowingly infected and at risk of transmitting the virus to others,” said Barbara Ferrer, director of the L.A. County Department of Public Health. “These findings underscore the importance of expanded polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing to diagnose those with infection so they can be isolated and quarantined while also maintaining the broad social distancing interventions.”

              The antibody test is helpful for identifying past infection, but a PCR test is required to diagnose a current infection.

              “Though the results indicate a lower risk of death among those with infection than was previously thought, the number of COVID-related deaths each day continues to mount, highlighting the need for continued vigorous prevention and control efforts,” said Paul Simon, chief science officer at the L.A. County Department of Public Health and co-lead on the study.

              The study’s results have not yet been peer-reviewed by other scientists. The researchers plan to test new groups of participants every few weeks in the coming months to gauge the pandemic’s trajectory in the region.

              More on USC/L.A. County testing

              With help from medical students from the Keck School of Medicine of USC, USC researchers and public health officials conducted drive-thru antibody testing on April 10 and 11 at six sites. Participants were recruited via a proprietary database that is representative of the county population. The database is maintained by LRW Group, a market research firm.

              The researchers used a rapid antibody test for the study. The FDA allows such tests for public health surveillance to gain greater clarity on actual infection rates. The test’s accuracy was further assessed at a lab at Stanford University using blood samples that were positive and negative for COVID-19.

              In addition to Sood and Simon, other authors and institutions contributing to the study include Peggy Ebner of the Keck School of Medicine, Daniel Eichner of the Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory, Jeffrey Reynolds of LRW Group and Eran Bendavid and Jay Bhattacharya of the Stanford University School of Medicine.

              The study was supported by funding from the USC Schwarzenegger Institute for State and Global Policy, the USC Lusk Center for Real Estate, the USC president’s office, the Jedel Family Foundation, LRW Group, SoapBoxSample and several individual donors.

              Comment


              • So the death rate is much lower than thought, yet they want to keep spreading fear throughout the population.
                My Opinion isn’t determined by what the Popular Opinion is. Sometimes I agree with the Majority, Sometimes I Don’t. If My Opinion is Different than Yours, I have to Ask One Question:
                You Mad Bro?
                Don’t Be A Mean Girl

                Comment


                • The study posted above had similar findings as the one conducted in Santa Clara County, CA. Researchers conducted a smaller “representative” study in Chelsea, MA.

                  Comment


                  • Saw how a week after their public protests that Kentucky had it's highest day of reported positive tests. Denver had a pretty good size protest yesterday, I wonder if we will see a spike or if Kentucky was just a coincidence.

                    Comment


                    • Originally posted by broncolee View Post
                      So the death rate is much lower than thought, yet they want to keep spreading fear throughout the population.
                      The studies with representative sampling should be done across the country. It’s more feasible to conduct these studies compared with testing everyone. The study findings above are preliminary analysis.

                      At this point we don’t have enough data to fully understand the death rate. Germany conducted similar studies and the results indicate a much lower death rate.

                      We know the forecast models were wildly inaccurate. Even as the models were updated the forecasts of continue being revised downward. It’s wonderful the deaths have been significantly lower than predicted. One thing we can takeaway from the pandemic - forecast models are terribly unreliable.

                      One of the common themes - mitigation measures worked, e.g. cases and deaths were lower because of social distancing and shutting down the country. There may have been some benefit but we really don’t know. The analysis by Isaac Ben-Israel indicates there aren’t differences between countries. Regardless of how early and/or stringent the measures there wasn’t much of a difference in cases/deaths. That’s not to say his study is conclusive. We’ll need more data to come to any conclusions. There are many variables to adjust for such as demographics, health systems, population density, etc.

                      Again, nobody has the evidence as far as I know proving mitigation efforts worked.

                      One thing is clear - shutting down the country has been devastating to the economy. Millions of people lost jobs along with closing thousands of businesses. We haven’t begun to fully understand the economic damage. I trust we’ll get back on track as we’re a resilient country.

                      Lot of work ahead.
                      Last edited by Fantaztic7; 04-20-2020, 09:17 PM.

                      Comment


                      • Originally posted by Bronco51 View Post
                        Saw how a week after their public protests that Kentucky had it's highest day of reported positive tests. Denver had a pretty good size protest yesterday, I wonder if we will see a spike or if Kentucky was just a coincidence.
                        It’s nearly impossible to draw any correlation. The cases dropped sharply after the protests in Virginia.

                        Comment


                        • The tests for antibodies such as the one conducted by USC should help us learn about protective immunity. It isn’t clear whether or not asymptotic infection will prevent re-infection. If it does provide immunity, how long? Once enough data has been collected we can cross reference people with antibodies against those without. A larger study was just started and we should have results in a month.

                          Comment


                          • Based on preliminary findings from the USC study an estimated 221,000 to 442,000 adults in Los Angeles County went undetected with Coronavirus. As of yesterday LA County reported 617 deaths related to the virus. Death rate would range between 0.0027 to 0.0014%. Consider the rate in the context of not having a vaccine. Again, we’ll need more data to better understand the impact on age ranges and other areas around the country.
                            Last edited by Fantaztic7; 04-21-2020, 06:08 AM.

                            Comment


                            • Originally posted by JvDub95 View Post
                              I am not a vaccine guy, I have my personal view on these nasty poisons. My growing fear is that certain rich and powerful people in charge are going to make taking it mandatory to "get back to normal". I would and am warning everyone to not take it when available. A true vaccine to this virus "should" take years to develop and they (Bill Gates) is trying to push this through in months??? NO THANK YOU!!! Do yourselves a favor and research this man and his true agenda
                              No thank you indeed
                              The beatings will continue until morale improves....

                              Comment


                              • Reports of accidental poisonings from cleaners and disinfectants are up this year, and researchers believe it's related to the coronavirus epidemic.

                                Roughly 40% of calls this year were about poisonings in children age 5 or younger, but increases were seen in all age groups. Bleach accounted for the largest share of the increase overall, but for young children the rise was mainly in mishaps involving nonalcohol disinfectants and hand sanitizers, the CDC reported.
                                The article mentioned ingesting sanitizer and people getting sick from so much bleach use.....even soaking their vegetables in bleach mix.

                                The fear mongering has got to stop. It's clear the shutdown bought us enough time to realize the effectiveness of some of these treatments. The shutdown did its job and was necessary. We didn't overwhelm our hospitals and that is a huge win. But that fear has passed, and so has the fear of being "short" supplies as we have stocked up on everything we feared we would run out of 45 days ago.

                                Im afraid of what we have grown to expect from the press...
                                Fearmonger, Fearmonger, Fearmonger, than forget it. It will be instantly on to the next squirrel to chase.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X