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  • zero1307
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    Originally posted by MoFo_JoRo
    Another major mistake was wasting alot of his war funs tryin to kill the jews, cuz look at how much money that spent that he could have saved for war with us.
    The Germans also stole millions of dollars in cash, gold, paintings, jewels, etc... So the Germans probably just used the money they stole from the Jews to kill the Jews....

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  • MoFo_JoRo
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    Another major mistake was wasting alot of his war funs tryin to kill the jews, cuz look at how much money that spent that he could have saved for war with us.

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  • y2cragie
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    Originally posted by MoFo_JoRo
    I think Hitler was brilliant, insane, anal retentive, and arrogant (ignoring your advisors when they have a good point?)

    his bigger mistakes in my opinion are:

    2: The seige or england, Churchill ended up angering Hitler enuff that Hitler cahnged his original plans. The plans originally were to attack the militarily importnat targets:depots shipyards an factories and such. But after he cahnged it, it became cities for the people. He said that he would make the people of England pay. This motivated the people to try theyre best to stick it out, so England at least wasnt in what we are now in Iraq, where everyone is sayin to give up.
    Hitler made the mistake here of stopping attacks on the RAF and its bases, not so much the factories or shipyards. Britains main defence was its air force. The Luftwaffe were, some say, 1 day away from crippling the RAF completely. He then was given some wrong information and stopped attacking bases and focused on the cities. The RAF and Army only needed a day or two to fix up the runways and they were up and running almost immediatly. This mistake and the usual bad British weather caused Hitler to call off operation Sea Lion. The loss of Britain would have brought the war to an end. It was the only place the Americans would have to base their operations from, with the vast space of the Atlantic, they just wouldnt have been able to do anything to help in Europe. The British public would have never surrendered, we had the Home Guard (dads army as it was known) and in those days people wernt willing to give up when lives were being lost.

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  • frenchfan
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    Originally posted by zero1307
    I heard on history channel, that the Nazi's could hear the Americans radio messages, so the Americans set the Germans up. We said that there was a huge army North of Normandy and when Hitler heard this, he sent thousands of men to intercept them. The fact was the army did not exist and there were less troops at Normandy and thats what gave us the upper hand.
    Yep it's was a part of Overlord... And French resistance helped (and paid) a lot to make this story true...
    US dropped puppets too and german soldiers thought that were airborne troops... They weren't and Germans were very confused so that helped too ...

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  • JakesTheMan
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    Originally posted by y2cragie
    Someone has already stated it. Hitlers mistake was not listening to his advisors. The Allies got lucky on D-day The Germans believed the attacks would take place at Calais because it was the shortest route. Because of this Hitler ordered all his defences and the majority of his Panzer division to this area.
    True, but the failure of the Atlantic Wall wasn't entirely Hitler's fault. Rommel was in charge of the Atlantic Wall, but even he had to go through von Rundstedt. And the two had contradictions on how best to prepare for an Allied invasion. Rommel felt the best way was to push the Allies back into the sea at the beaches before they ever got a foothold whereas von Rundstedt preferred to let the Allies land and fight a decisive inland battle. Add that Rommel was in Germany when the landing took place and there was no significant command during the first crucial hours (Hitler was asleep and nobody wanted to wake him). Had Rommel been there rather in Germany for his wife's Birthday he would have released those Panzer Divisions and the outcome may very well have been different.



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  • MoFo_JoRo
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    I think Hitler was brilliant, insane, anal retentive, and arrogant (ignoring your advisors when they have a good point?)

    his bigger mistakes in my opinion are:

    1: the russia thing, but i dont need to go into that with all you guys all repeating it.

    2: The seige or england, Churchill ended up angering Hitler enuff that Hitler cahnged his original plans. The plans originally were to attack the militarily importnat targets:depots shipyards an factories and such. But after he cahnged it, it became cities for the people. He said that he would make the people of England pay. This motivated the people to try theyre best to stick it out, so England at least wasnt in what we are now in Iraq, where everyone is sayin to give up.

    3: Normandy was a big one...........

    4: letting the japanese attack us.............well im not completley sure they had much say in it. But being japans allies they shoulda at least tried to keep them from gettin us involved. I mean, i wouldnt attack us with england still in the picture.....especially if All FDR is sayin is that we need to be attacked first.......

    5: The many times that he wouldnt listen to anyones advise, he kept thinking htat he will win his way or hell lose his way, no where in between............that killed him

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  • Alastor
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    Of course the Sicilian dies ten seconds later...

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  • NJBRONCOSFAN
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    Originally posted by mattos
    "Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line.""
    Damn skippy!!!

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  • y2cragie
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    Someone has already stated it. Hitlers mistake was not listening to his advisors. The Allies got lucky on D-day The Germans believed the attacks would take place at Calais because it was the shortest route. Because of this Hitler ordered all his defences and the majority of his Panzer division to this area. His advisors told him it wouldnt be that imple but he ignored them. He was also told to mobalise the Luftwaffe but decided against it because he saw little use for them during the attacks. This gave the allies total air control on the day making tasks easier again.
    His final mistake and one that it is considered cost him a chance at winning the war at the end. And that was stopping advances in the Jet development and slowing production of his jet fighters the ME262. He could only see a use for heavy bombers which were by this point getting torn up by Spitfires and Mustangs well before they got near the major cities. Had Hitler followed advice and advanced the jet program they would have been able to intercept the Lancaster Bombers that were tearing up Berlin and other major cities in Germany.

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  • mattos
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    Originally posted by LoufromLItt.
    Another great mistake was going to russia during the winter.. I think they were cold? HEH
    reminds me of the quote from the princess bride: "You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia." But only slightly less well known is this: "Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line.""

    i always though he said land war in russia though . . . but that's the script i found online

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  • Alastor
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    Oh, that was Operation Overlord too... not Warlord as I previously wrote.

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  • Alastor
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    It's entirely plausible for someone to be both insane and brilliant at the same time.

    I think he's one of those cases.



    His greatest mistake was probably failing to listen to his advisors. Several of them warned not only against the Normandy ruse (operation Warlord), but other significant military defeats as well. They also warned and tried to talk him out of invading Russia at the time he did.

    Had he listened to them, things might have indeed been very different.

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  • zero1307
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    Originally posted by Broncology
    Hitler was a genius, probably one of the best speakers of all-time. It wasn't just him though; the people who helped out with the Nazi Propaganda are genius as well. They actually had video's of the mentally and physically ill; with questions like, "Wouldn't it be better if they just died?" -- A lot of people agreed, thus they agreed with Hitler because he saw those deficient to be a disgrace to his master race.

    However he wasn't liked by the people whom he needed in order to be sucessful which I think contributed to the National Socialist demise. I'm not sure how many assasination attempts were attempted on him; but I know it's dozens (just from his own men high up in the SS and part of the 3rd Reich).

    I still think if Hitler would have sent out some of his Panzer Divisions when we started attacking the Beaches of France; the war would have went on for longer than it did and D-Day wouldn't have been as sucessful as it panned out to be.

    I heard on history channel, that the Nazi's could hear the Americans radio messages, so the Americans set the Germans up. We said that there was a huge army North of Normandy and when Hitler heard this, he sent thousands of men to intercept them. The fact was the army did not exist and there were less troops at Normandy and thats what gave us the upper hand.

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  • Dream
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    Hitler was a genius, probably one of the best speakers of all-time. It wasn't just him though; the people who helped out with the Nazi Propaganda are genius as well. They actually had video's of the mentally and physically ill; with questions like, "Wouldn't it be better if they just died?" -- A lot of people agreed, thus they agreed with Hitler because he saw those deficient to be a disgrace to his master race.

    However he wasn't liked by the people whom he needed in order to be sucessful which I think contributed to the National Socialist demise. I'm not sure how many assasination attempts were attempted on him; but I know it's dozens (just from his own men high up in the SS and part of the 3rd Reich).

    I still think if Hitler would have sent out some of his Panzer Divisions when we started attacking the Beaches of France; the war would have went on for longer than it did and D-Day wouldn't have been as sucessful as it panned out to be.

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  • frenchfan
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    Originally posted by Big Bad John

    French Toast (He he)
    American cheers !

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