Conspiracy Theories....

[Johnny Law Man]

Some you've heard, some you haven't...

If you have any, share some...or at least tell me what you think of the ones that I type...

The Kennedy Assassination- Some say the CIA...some say a Communist sypathizer...some say KGB...what say you?

9/11- Some say the United States Government...some say Al Qaeda...some say Al Qaeda with financial backing from Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Syria....

The great Power outage of last summer (I think)- Now, I heard that it was the work of a special weapon that our government possesses, up in Alaska, that is designed to create a wave that kills power grids...I also heard that it was to prevent the Saudis from withdrawing all of their money from American banks, thereby causing a major Stock Market crash...

I kow that there are more out there too...

[JWinn]

I have no idea who killed Kennedy, but if you ever watched JFK, it's pretty clear from the showing of how he was killed, how the bullet that struck him in the head form the front, that it did NOT come from any window in the book depository!

Not to be too graphic, and repetative of that movie, but the description of how his head reacted to the first shot;

Back & to the left, back & to the left, back & to the left..................

I realize that's from a movie, but that footage was the real deal. Kennedy was killed by a gunman in front of him, to his right. From the area of the grassy knoll. Not from a window BEHIND him.

Clearly, someone other than Oswald was involved. So there must have been some conspiricy. However, it could have just been one guy. But if Oswald was in that window, and he did take a shot, then there must have been others involved.

Hence a conspiricy of some kind........

I'm no conspiricy nut, but to think they NEVER happen would be silly.

I think this is the greatest mystery of the 20 century. The biggest crime that will never be solved.

[ElRaider24]

nice post Jwinn.

I believe Kennedy's assassination was the product of a last resort on the be-half of the U.S. government, due to Kennedy's drug addiction and for reasons Im afraid to post.

[IZAAK]

I have no idea who killed Kennedy, but if you ever watched JFK, it's pretty clear from the showing of how he was killed, how the bullet that struck him in the head form the front, that it did NOT come from any window in the book depository!

Not to be too graphic, and repetative of that movie, but the description of how his head reacted to the first shot;

Back & to the left, back & to the left, back & to the left..................

I realize that's from a movie, but that footage was the real deal. Kennedy was killed by a gunman in front of him, to his right. From the area of the grassy knoll. Not from a window BEHIND him.

Clearly, someone other than Oswald was involved. So there must have been some conspiricy. However, it could have just been one guy. But if Oswald was in that window, and he did take a shot, then there must have been others involved.

Hence a conspiricy of some kind........

I'm no conspiricy nut, but to think they NEVER happen would be silly.

I think this is the greatest mystery of the 20 century. The biggest crime that will never be solved.

I watched a thing on the history channel about the JFK conspiricy and they tested the whole thing and concluded that it is possible that from the book depository, the shoot could have made JFK's head move the way it did... Dont ask me how, I do not remember, I just remember thinking it was strange... haha

[JWinn]

I watched a thing on the history channel about the JFK conspiricy and they tested the whole thing and concluded that it is possible that from the book depository, the shoot could have made JFK's head move the way it did... Dont ask me how, I do not remember, I just remember thinking it was strange... haha

I dont buy that!

There was also the story of the mystery bullet. This bullet went through Kennedy, took several turns, and went through Govornor (cant remember his name just now), took several more turns, all in mid flight, before coming to rest. This was from the official investigation if I remember, havent thought about this in years..

I'm no gun expert, but I dont believe that if I shoot you from behind, that the bullet will cause your head to fling BACKWARDS first, and splatter your brains our BEHIND you!

But, If a bullet can somehow change directions mid-flight, anything is possible .

[Southstander]

Jwinn that whole "Magic Bullet" thing was a product of Oliver over active Imagination, the histroy channel specail that IZAAk spoke of showed that when the bodys of Kennedy and the Texas govenor where place as they where in that limo did not curve or swerve as the movie JFK would have you beleivem it went as bullets do in a straight line. Oswald was also an expert marks men trained by to Corps he could have pulled it off and most likly did you are starting to sound like...

[NameUsedBefore]

Jwinn, I'll be frank with you and dont let me tell you why, but a bullet hitting a person in the back of his head can cause his head to backwards. Wanna know why his brains fell out backwards? Because when the bullet cracked his skull they spilled out that way --- it would be impossible for them to spill out the other way, other then through his mouth or straight down his throat.

Ever seen someone shot in the front of the head before? Their head has a tendency to fall FORWARDS. I know, it's strange. I know a guy (that knows a guy that knows a guy etc.) that has seen (or, I hope not, actually commited) someone shoot a guy right above the left eye. He said the eye popped out, the back of his head opened up and let out a little blood and brain, and his head instantly cocked foward, slumped into his chest.

It isn't like the movies where they shoot some guy in the head and it cocks back all active-like. When the brain is killed the weight of the head simply falls forward. Not to mention this: brains don't "fly", they spill. A bullet rarely actually sends one's brains flying through the air, instead they have a tendency to just fall out of the head, which in case happened with Kennedy.

Anyway, bad memories are resurfacing and that is that.

[JWinn]

Jwinn that whole "Magic Bullet" thing was a product of Oliver over active Imagination, the histroy channel specail that IZAAk spoke of showed that when the bodys of Kennedy and the Texas govenor where place as they where in that limo did not curve or swerve as the movie JFK would have you beleivem it went as bullets do in a straight line. Oswald was also an expert marks men trained by to Corps he could have pulled it off and most likly did you are starting to sound like...

Actually, I didnt see that from the movie. As I recall, that was from a documentary. BUt again, It has been a while since I even thought about this incident.

And you might want to consider that in this day and age, having religious slogans in your sig might make you look like the crazy one. So you might want to stop comparing others with such nonsense.

I believe you have a saying; "He who casts the first stone"?

And Name, that may be true, as I said, I am no expert. However, your friends friend doesnt sway my belief that if you hit something on one direction, it will have the tendancy to swing in that same direction first, as Kennedy's head did.

I refer you to the famous photo from Viet Nam or Korea where the one guy is shooting the other point blank in the side of the head. The photo captures the instant of the bullet's impact. The head is clearly moving in the same direction as the bullet.

Anyway, you two are arguing details that have little to do with the overall conspiracy theory. Do YOU two think there was conspiracy or not in this case?

I do. Again South, in THIS case......................

[spikerman]

Just to throw my $.02 worth into this. I had to take a class on the Kennedy assassination and I'm not going to say whether there was a conspiracy or not, but there were a couple of interesting things that were brought up during the class:

- Just because it was asked; the governor's name was John Connally.
- The "Magic Bullet" theory had nothing to do with the car swerving. It was because if the Warren Commission's theory was true, the bullet would have had to pass through Kennedy's neck into Connally's back, exit his chest, turn right to hit his hand, pass through his hand, back to the left to imbed itself in his thigh. (My sequence of turns may be off, but that's basically the gist, I think). One other thing to note; if you look at the Zapruder Film, Kennedy is clearly grabbing his neck for a few seconds before Connally reacts. In fact, he's holding his cowboy hat in the hand that eventually gets hit. That's one slow moving bullet.
- According to eye (ear) witnesses there were at least three shots fired. The theory is that Oswald hit Kennedy in the neck with the first shot, missed the second, and fired the fatal shot on the third.
- According to U.S. Marine records, Oswald was NOT a very good shot. Later the Marines ran tests using expert marksmen to fire at targets using the same gun Oswald allegedly used. They had to fire at targets from the same distance while recocking the gun in the allowed time frame. Very few of them could do it and maintain any accuracy.
- Oswald had previously defected to the Soviet Union. The Soviets never really trusted him though and thought he might be a double agent.
- The president's driver actually slowed down after the first shot instead of getting out of there as quickly as possible.
- One thing that I found pretty interesting (if not purely coincidental), there is footage of the president passing a group of people. At the moment he passes them, a man opens an umbrella, despite it being a sunny day. Right after that, Kennedy grabs his throat.

Ok, there's more, but you're probably bored by now.

[Jared]

I think there is a conspiracy to start conspiracy theories, because some people just don't trust anything or anyone.

[NameUsedBefore]

There are conspiracies because we can't stand not knowing something, so we make up our own stories. It is all in good fun.

[Johnny Law Man]

I think there is a conspiracy to start conspiracy theories, because some people just don't trust anything or anyone.

I think that Jared's trying to kill my thread because he works for The Man.... (Now you know, I am joking)

[NameUsedBefore]

We will never know, will we?

[Calif. Bronco]

I'm no conspiricy nut, but to think they NEVER happen would be silly.

Exactly! Some people see the world as one large conspiracy, while others believe everything "The Man" says, but most of us tend to fall somewhere in between.

As for the 3 conspiracies mentioned to start this thread? IMHO, the Kennedy one is the only one that I would even consider buying into (meaning terrorists caused 9/11 and the Great Blackout was caused by...well...a blackout I guess

[rcsodak]

What is the general consensus on Roswell?
I happen to think that there WAS a craft that crashed, and that we do have it AND the bodies.
In fact, I'll even go so far as to say that I think there were survivors, though I don't know whether they're still alive or not.
I guess if they are as advanced as they would seem to have been, then who's to say they can't live way longer than we do?
And all past/present President's know the truth, and have seen for themselves.

Why else would Presidents' hairs turn grey?