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  • #31
    Half of those aren't conspiracies so much as man's corruption.

    Money was involved in most of those cases.

    Bullets do not turn "mid-air", no, but they do ricochet.

    And for all we know, MoFo may be correct, it was all one big presidential clean-up involving a lot of backstabbing and double-crossing. But the odds... they don't favor it, IMO.

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    • #32
      To join in a secret agreement for a wrongful act
      The act of conspiring together
      An agreement among conspirators

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      • #33
        So you think black men not coming into baseball till '47 is a conspiracy? I chalk it up to prejudice, but that is just me.

        NFL didn't want to look bad, which the Playmakers was doing (potraying a bad picture). Not much conspiracy there, but again, that is just me.

        Martha Stewart shenanigans: hey, did you know that drug deals go down all the time too? Not all of them get caught either. Some get away with it, some don't.

        Perhaps I have a different idea of a conspiracy, given that the JFK "Conspiracy" doesn't even have any

        " To join in a secret agreement for a wrongful act
        The act of conspiring together
        An agreement among conspirators "

        that we know of. So why is it called a conspiracy?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by NameUsedBefore2
          So you think black men not coming into baseball till '47 is a conspiracy? I chalk it up to prejudice, but that is just me.

          NFL didn't want to look bad, which the Playmakers was doing (potraying a bad picture). Not much conspiracy there, but again, that is just me.

          Martha Stewart shenanigans: hey, did you know that drug deals go down all the time too? Not all of them get caught either. Some get away with it, some don't.

          Perhaps I have a different idea of a conspiracy, given that the JFK "Conspiracy" doesn't even have any

          " To join in a secret agreement for a wrongful act
          The act of conspiring together
          An agreement among conspirators "

          that we know of. So why is it called a conspiracy?


          Because a fair portion of Americans believe that information pertinent to the actual events that occurred on November 22, 1963 is being with-held, by those who deem it necessary to classify or de-classify said information...

          Secret agreement = Classified documentation with-held from the public...
          Wrongful act = Lying to the American public about what happenned that day...

          hence the term, Conspiracy Theory...
          I've walked these streets, a loaded six-string on my back, I play for keeps 'cause I might not make it back, I've been everywhere still I'm standin' tall, I've seen a million faces and I've rocked them all!!:salute!:

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          • #35
            Ah, but I was given:

            To join in a secret agreement for a wrongful act
            The act of conspiring together
            An agreement among conspirators


            None of which fit the bill for a JFK "Conspiracy", which many call it, myself included.

            And whoever said there were any of these:

            Secret agreement = Classified documentation with-held from the public...
            Wrongful act = Lying to the American public about what happenned that day...


            Just wondering, because we know nothing about the JFK "Conspiracy" besides that he was killed and that our imaginations love to create little spy-stories about how the event went down.

            Anyway, back on topic before this quickly goes into another argument like the one me and top had about evolution being a theory.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by NameUsedBefore2
              Ah, but I was given:

              To join in a secret agreement for a wrongful act
              The act of conspiring together
              An agreement among conspirators


              None of which fit the bill for a JFK "Conspiracy", which many call it, myself included.

              And whoever said there were any of these:

              Secret agreement = Classified documentation with-held from the public...
              Wrongful act = Lying to the American public about what happenned that day...


              Just wondering, because we know nothing about the JFK "Conspiracy" besides that he was killed and that our imaginations love to create little spy-stories about how the event went down.

              Anyway, back on topic before this quickly goes into another argument like the one me and top had about evolution being a theory.


              1. Don't believe everything that you breathe, you'll get a parking violation and a maggot on your sleeve....

              2. NEWSFLASH...There are to this day July 15, 2005 pages upon pages of Classified documentation regarding the events of 11/22/63 in a Dallas, Texas motorcade that involved the assassination of John F. Kennedy....

              3. I'm gonna inch out on the tree limb and venture a guess that you were the one that considered Evolution as factual...
              I've walked these streets, a loaded six-string on my back, I play for keeps 'cause I might not make it back, I've been everywhere still I'm standin' tall, I've seen a million faces and I've rocked them all!!:salute!:

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              • #37
                Bullets do not turn right in mid-air.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Big Bad John



                  2. NEWSFLASH...
                  I have absolutly hate when people say that... It drives me crazy... But it does not change that fact that you are right....


                  PS Evolution is factual... Just because you dont agree with it, doesnt discredit it...
                  ---IZAAK

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                  • #39
                    The argument wasn't on whether it was factual or not (which I think it is anyway) but whether it was a "theory" or not. Stupid argument involving top shooting himself in the foot and a topic getting derailed, which I don't want to see here.

                    My point is is that nothing about the JFK "Conspiracy" fits the description of what a conspiracy is, people just call it that because society knows exactly what it means. Sure there are lots of classified documents, why wouldn't there be? A president was assassinated, they aren't gonna release info that probably is on the edge of being truth or misinformation --- they're smart and keeping the lid closed until they know what really happened.

                    IMO a conspiracy is a lack of knowledge of a great event that we have reasonable evidence to believe that "conspirators" were involved --- not that we KNOW conspirators were involved outright, cause then it wouldn't be a conspiracy, it'd be a court-case (in most events).

                    How about this conspiracy: How come no actions were taken against the Southern-generals who went against the United States in our Civil War? There were about to be thousands of hangings and trials but all we ended up with was the guy in charge of the Andersonville prison being hanged... after that all building-cases against the southern generals and those involved were dropped...

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by IZAAK
                      PS Evolution is factual... Just because you dont agree with it, doesnt discredit it...


                      They don't call it The "theory" of Evolution for no reason...no one was there to witness it...other than God...
                      I've walked these streets, a loaded six-string on my back, I play for keeps 'cause I might not make it back, I've been everywhere still I'm standin' tall, I've seen a million faces and I've rocked them all!!:salute!:

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                      • #41
                        They don't call it theory of gravity for no reason... oops, yeah they do: because things such as evolution and gravity are practically impossible to PROVE without any doubt being involved. They have substantial evidence of both gravity and evolution, but there will never be enough to actually prove the either of them.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by NameUsedBefore2
                          My point is is that nothing about the JFK "Conspiracy" fits the description of what a conspiracy is, people just call it that because society knows exactly what it means. Sure there are lots of classified documents, why wouldn't there be? A president was assassinated, they aren't gonna release info that probably is on the edge of being truth or misinformation --- they're smart and keeping the lid closed until they know what really happened.

                          IMO a conspiracy is a lack of knowledge of a great event that we have reasonable evidence to believe that "conspirators" were involved --- not that we KNOW conspirators were involved outright, cause then it wouldn't be a conspiracy, it'd be a court-case (in most events).
                          ...


                          So, what your saying is that "no-one" knows what happenned that day in Dallas?

                          I say that there are people who do and the very act of them withholding that information adds to the already existing conspiracy of whom killed JFK...besides Oswald that is...and who was he working for?
                          I've walked these streets, a loaded six-string on my back, I play for keeps 'cause I might not make it back, I've been everywhere still I'm standin' tall, I've seen a million faces and I've rocked them all!!:salute!:

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by NameUsedBefore2
                            They don't call it theory of gravity for no reason... oops, yeah they do: because things such as evolution and gravity are practically impossible to PROVE without any doubt being involved. They have substantial evidence of both gravity and evolution, but there will never be enough to actually prove the either of them.


                            They have substantial evidence of Creation, as well as documentation of the event...read your Bible...

                            The fact is the point in which the search for the truth has ended...
                            I've walked these streets, a loaded six-string on my back, I play for keeps 'cause I might not make it back, I've been everywhere still I'm standin' tall, I've seen a million faces and I've rocked them all!!:salute!:

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                            • #44
                              Bullets Do Not Turn Right In Mid-air .

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