Disrespectful Kids

[pikman]

Rascals thread on Porn got me thinking of another topic I'd like to see some opinions on. I realize that there is a broad range of ages, backgrounds, and ideals on this board so I assume there should be some interesting opinions.

I have two kids, 5 & 3, we have numerous friends with children of relatively the same age. All of our friends kids call my wife and I by our first names, as my children also speak to our friends this way. I seem to be the only person in our circle who sees this as wrong. I was raised to call "grown ups" Mr. or Mrs. whatever. It was a sign of respect, when answering questions it was yes sir, no sir, etc. This in my opinion afforded the adults the respect they deserve to be shown by children, hell I'm 35 and I still call my parents friends Mr. and Mrs.

My point is that when you look at society today there seems to be an abundance of young people who have no respect for their elders, themselves, or their peers. Respect begins to be taught when you are young and I don't see it being as important in society as it should be, and it will not get any better. I tell my kids to call my friends Mr. and Mrs., but my friends insist the kids call them by their first names. Fighting an uphill battle.

IMHO

[orangenblue420]

Well pikman, I would post my OPINION about this but since I have no room to talk because I partake in the 420, I would only be opening myself up for a huge amount of criticism and ridicule from "other" people on this site, hence I will keep my OPINION to myself, even though I thought, thats what this board was for........

Although apparantly I must be doing a thing or two right, since my children do use Mr. or Mrs. until they are given permission by the adults to call them something else......

And I do agree with what you are saying, it is scary to see the way children behave these days.....I still dont swear, drink, or do anything like that in front of my parents, and it is out of sheer respect....I know they dont like it, so i dont do it......


OK........I cant wait to see the replies.......uggghhhhh

[pikman]

Originally posted by orangenblue420
Well pikman, I would post my OPINION about this but since I have no room to talk because I partake in the 420, I would only be opening myself up for a huge amount of criticism and ridicule from "other" people on this site, hence I will keep my OPINION to myself, even though I thought, thats what this board was for........

OB i've yet to really voice my opinion on the "other" topic, but here's what I have to say to you.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with indulging in said plant. As far as i am concerned I'd rather someone do that than get boozed up and get behind the wheel. I will not judge you, it's not my place.

[orang/blu in LA]

Originally posted by pikman
OB i've yet to really voice my opinion on the "other" topic, but here's what I have to say to you.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with indulging in said plant. As far as i am concerned I'd rather someone do that than get boozed up and get behind the wheel. I will not judge you, it's not my place.

That's exactly how i feel too. and, if i ever have kids, i think that i'd rather them go to a friend's house whose mother may partake in a certain plant in another room rather than a friend's house whose mother is chainsmoking right alongside them.

As far as the respect thing goes - until i was 10 years old i went to a rather hippy-like private school where we called our teachers and even principal by their first names. so at the time, we did the same with our friends' parents and it was just normal. once i changed schools, i heard other kids use "Mrs" and "Mr" and so i did the same. what always blew my mind though were other aspects of manners - such as friends coming over to my house and immediately going through the fridge as i stood there in shock... My mother would have lectured me endlessly if she ever saw me do that at someone else's house.

[pikman]

Originally posted by orang/blu in LA
what always blew my mind though were other aspects of manners - such as friends coming over to my house and immediately going through the fridge as i stood there in shock... My mother would have lectured me endlessly if she ever saw me do that at someone else's house.

Thats what I'm talking about, no manners, what happened to please and thank you, asking permission, etc. Maybe I am just to old school but I'll tell you what, my kids know their manners. At 5 and 3 it seems easy, I think it's the teenage years that are the hardest, I'll let you know when I get there.

[THE SHIELD]

I think the reason why kids are so darn messed up, is that there are not enough ass whoopings! Bring back the paddle, and instill the fear back into the kids. What ever happened to the phrase "What did you Say to Me?" and then Pow! "Don't ever tell me No again you little ****!!!!"

[pikman]

Originally posted by dhall26
I think the reason why kids are so darn messed up, is that there are not enough ass whoopings! Bring back the paddle, and instill the fear back into the kids. What ever happened to the phrase "What did you Say to Me?" and then Pow! "Don't ever tell me No again you little ****!!!!"

Scares me how often we agree these days. One of my favorites is asking my kids, "How would you like a red ass?" You should see the looks I get from other parents when I bring that up. Of course thats a whole different thread. Maybe we could start a "To spank, or not to spank" Poll.

[orangenblue420]

Originally posted by dhall26
I think the reason why kids are so darn messed up, is that there are not enough ass whoopings! Bring back the paddle, and instill the fear back into the kids. What ever happened to the phrase "What did you Say to Me?" and then Pow! "Don't ever tell me No again you little ****!!!!"

Ohhhh......I cant wait to hear the responses from this one....its a whole new topic.....to spank or not to spank....

I believe in spanking, but not whoopin and there is a certain age when it should stop.....but hell I grew up knowing if I did something wrong, it as "the belt" time.....I only got it one time and it wasnt even my fault, my cousin asked our great grandma for a dollar ( i was just an innocent bystander, i swear) and my dad found out and gave us both the belt......

Needless to say, I have an aversion, to this day, to asking people for money.....LOL, and its true, my parents still get pissed at me cause I wont ever ask them for $$$$ when I need help, to me its the worst feeling in the world to ask another person for money and for the longest time I couldnt figure out why I would get that awful gut wrenching, stomach churning feeling when I needed to ask to borrow some, but it finally clicked, I truly think I associate asking money with the whole belt incident......

[orang/blu in LA]

First - Dhall26, you crack me up.

Second, i think it has to do with manners and people raising their kids in a way where they actually THINK about others. it seems so simple, but yet there are so many people i know who seem to live in a bubble and who think they are ENTITLED to things. they're the ones who go through someone's fridge, and i guarantee they're not thinking about asking permission or wondering if the person just spent their last twenty bucks on the food they're about to steal...b/c for them, it's all about THEM and no one else. i have one friend who gets invited out to dinner and says how excited she is to order the filet mignon - b/c she knows SOMEONE ELSE is paying for it. That kills me. I don't care how much money someone has, when i get taken out to dinner, i always order something cheaper than what the person paying ordered.

[Return of Lava]

OOO i like this thread

I think it comes down to discipline. In my old school, at lunch the lady will ask you if you want potatoes, if you say yes or yeah, you will be hungry for the rest of the day, you have to say yes ma'am. Also, they padddled you in school if you act up. I dont consider that abuse, i connsider that getting their ass in line. I know kids act up way different than they would at home so i was glad they took the kids and paddled they asses when they tried to get cute with a teacher or show off in front of their friends. one of my pet peeves is bad parenting though, its kinda funny, cause im still a kid. Anyway, when i see a mom saying "billy, go to timeout" after cussin or something bad like that, i get pissed off. I be like "naw take that kid and whoop his ass, let him know there is consequences for bad actions", i know some dont believe in spanking, but i do. I had a LOT when i was a kid, for little stuff like saying "its gonna rain" but it doesnt rain, i got a whoppin cause i lied and said i saw it on the news so i could get out of a family trip. i got a whoopin for makin a club house out of sheets in the living room, kind of liek a tent. i got a whoopin EVERY NIGHT for coming home too late(if the street ligfht is on, i better be inside the house). I never got thatrule down, i was always late and i was always spanked, they never let me slide even though they were honest mistakes cause i always lose track of time, but in the end, it helped me a lot. I blame columbine and stuff like that on bad parenting, i mean seriously, the kid had like a whole warfield ammo station in the family garage but he never let anybody in there or something liek that. I dont know exactly what it was, but i remember shakin my head. whose house was it, the kids? Why didnt the parents get involved and stop that sh*t before it happened? I still get pissed cause all them innocent people got shot and it gave CO bad name. I promise to be a good parent when i have kids.

I'm sorry this post ended up being long.

[Nixhex78]

Better watch out for those political correctness people. Say your in a supermarket, your kid is acting up and you give them a smack on the rear. Next thing you know you got these *******s calling social services and they show up at your house. These type of people are what's wrong with children these days, IMO. Many parents are afraid to discipline their children in fear of getting in trouble by social services. I see more children talking back to their parents, telling them no, throwing fits over nothing, and just flat out not listening at all. I chop this up to lack of discipline. They have no respect for their authority and they walk all over these types of parents. If a child has no fear of what will happen to them for acting badly they will continue to act badly. Eventually my father didn't even have to whip me. All he had to do was look at me with a mean tone or raise his voice. I knew what was up and changed my behavoir immediately. These same kids who have no respect for your house when they come over are the same kids who get sent to the corner for 5 minutes as punishment. These are all my opinions they are not to be taken as fact. Please don't jump my case. I could go on and on and I don't even have kids yet. However my wife is due in September. I can't wait!

[Return of Lava]

i agree nix

[raiderhater1]

Originally posted by orangenblue420
Ohhhh......I cant wait to hear the responses from this one....its a whole new topic.....to spank or not to spank....

I believe in spanking, but not whoopin and there is a certain age when it should stop.....but hell I grew up knowing if I did something wrong, it as "the belt" time.....I only got it one time and it wasnt even my fault, my cousin asked our great grandma for a dollar ( i was just an innocent bystander, i swear) and my dad found out and gave us both the belt......

Needless to say, I have an aversion, to this day, to asking people for money.....LOL, and its true, my parents still get pissed at me cause I wont ever ask them for $$$$ when I need help, to me its the worst feeling in the world to ask another person for money and for the longest time I couldnt figure out why I would get that awful gut wrenching, stomach churning feeling when I needed to ask to borrow some, but it finally clicked, I truly think I associate asking money with the whole belt incident......

Im 15 yrs old and sometimes theres just some of those instances when u kinda miss being corrected like that. now my mom uses her pity face and makes me feel horrible that i disobeyed. sometimes u just need a good woopin!

[orangenblue420]

So very true dislex, society is ALOT to blame for the raising of our children.....and kids arent stupid, they know that they can get their parents in trouble....I know of kids who have lied to the authorities about what their parents have done, just to get back at them for punishing them....

Here's a great story (kinda, prob gonna get my ass chewed for this one, but what the hell)

My neighbor hates me and my kids and calls the cops everytime more than one person is at my house, in fact he even called the cops when my kids were in MY front yard having a snowball fight and a snowball hit his house, that is what a pr!ck this guy is....anyways he called the cops to my house one night and I was out there talking to the police explaining who was at my house and why and my daughter made snide comment to one of the policemen (i know I said she is respectful but at times she does let her mouth run off a bit, dont know where she gets that from, must be her dad ) but anyways I told her to shut up, because she cant talk like that to an adult, nevermind a police officer....well check this out, the cop told ME to be quiet, she didnt want to have to make this into a domestic call also......

Can you believe that crap.....the cop threatened to turn me in or whatever because I told my daughter to shut up after talking back to THEM.....blew my freakin mind....how are we supposed to teach our children respect and how to behave when our own law enforcement/government doesnt allow it....

I have lost total respect for my cities PD after that, I mean I know that it was just that one cop but still, come on

[raiderhater1]

Originally posted by Nixhex78
...Eventually my father didn't even have to whip me. All he had to do was look at me with a mean tone or raise his voice. I knew what was up and changed my behavoir immediately...

thats the same thing with my mom...and your thing about kids saying no and being disrespectful...i hate that crap. i want to smack them in the face and say dont u talk to your momma like that boy!