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  • arapaho
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    Originally posted by Bronco_f1
    Unfortunately, that strategy wouldn't work. First, you can't make everyone spend $10 on gas, some of them would still buy the same quantity as they usually do. These are called "free riders". I see you use microeconomics in this topic, you have some decent logic, but gas is not the same as your story about eggs. First, eggs are not as essential to us as gas is. We can live without eggs, but it is most likely we can't live without gas.

    Second, in your story the producers increase the price of eggs from 76 cents to $1 dollar. But then they increase the price to $2 and obviously no one starts buying. This works in the real world, but the OPEC and oil companies are smart enough not to increase the price of gas at 100% like the story about eggs. They will increase the prices slowly, as long as people are buying. People are still buying, maybe some buy less, but that can be compensated with the increase of price. The companies still maximize profit. Unfortunately, gas is a monopoly, and the companies behave with human nature, just trying to maximize profit like anyone would do if they were in their position


    well i guess were S.O.L


    but i tried

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  • Bronco_f1
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    Unfortunately, that strategy wouldn't work. First, you can't make everyone spend $10 on gas, some of them would still buy the same quantity as they usually do. These are called "free riders". I see you use microeconomics in this topic, you have some decent logic, but gas is not the same as your story about eggs. First, eggs are not as essential to us as gas is. We can live without eggs, but it is most likely we can't live without gas.

    Second, in your story the producers increase the price of eggs from 76 cents to $1 dollar. But then they increase the price to $2 and obviously no one starts buying. This works in the real world, but the OPEC and oil companies are smart enough not to increase the price of gas at 100% like the story about eggs. They will increase the prices slowly, as long as people are buying. People are still buying, maybe some buy less, but that can be compensated with the increase of price. The companies still maximize profit. Unfortunately, gas is a monopoly, and the companies behave with human nature, just trying to maximize profit like anyone would do if they were in their position

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  • Southstander
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    http://www.850koa.com/pages/shows_ro...article=401440

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  • NameUsedBefore
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    Coincidentally, I just put $10 into my tank today.

    I always go between $10-$20; I don't think I've ever gone over $20.

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  • arapaho
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    Originally posted by rcsodak
    What about the people that only have those stations in their town?
    What about the people that have their 'gas' cards?
    What about the gas stations that don't advertise their distributor? Are 300 million people going to drive around their towns, ask the cashier who their distributor is?
    Most likely, this email will end up in THEIR inbox, and they will inform their cashiers to not speak an utterance, when approached.
    What about the people that have to drive OUT OF THEIR WAY to get gas elsewhere? Isn't that almost redundant?

    How's that for a rebuttal?





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    geesh its not my plan!!!!!!! i guess you just dont gas up at exxon or mobile....and in this day gas stations have to be in contract with a gas supplier like exxon , mobile, gulf........they cant just go and buy gas from anyone who drives by with a gas truck in so they have to advertise the supplier

    hey if its an inconvienence dont try

    but given the population of the US is about 298 million finding 30million, less then ten percent who can accually find a station the does not sell exxon or mobile is reasonable

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  • jhns
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    It is a good consept but the way it is explained doesn't really work out. Here is why. The man used a dozen eggs a week before when he was buying them by the dozen. Now he is using a dozen eggs a week buying 2 at a time. The demand is still there. For demand to go down and supply to go up you would have to use less of the supply overall. Not just buying less at a time. With gas they send people to fill the tanks once a week lets say. You still use the same amount of gas and take the same amount out of that tank every week you just space it out now. So the tanks will still go empty and need to be filled. For this to work you would need to figure ways to save on gas by not driving to places that are within walking distance or by riding a bike to places in range of that. Using the same amount over a period is still using the same amount. But good consept just was a little off.

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  • rcsodak
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    What about the people that only have those stations in their town?
    What about the people that have their 'gas' cards?
    What about the gas stations that don't advertise their distributor? Are 300 million people going to drive around their towns, ask the cashier who their distributor is?
    Most likely, this email will end up in THEIR inbox, and they will inform their cashiers to not speak an utterance, when approached.
    What about the people that have to drive OUT OF THEIR WAY to get gas elsewhere? Isn't that almost redundant?

    How's that for a rebuttal?





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  • arapaho
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    i recieved another gas letter .....this one came from a guy who was an excecutive in a very large corporation.....what he recommender is that every one email a notice to all your contacts, they in turn pass it on and so on to stop buying gas from the two or three largest producers and stick to the smaller ones......

    GAS WAR - an idea that WILL work

    This was originally sent by a retired Coca Cola executive It came from

    one of his engineer buddies who retired from Halliburton. It's worth
    your consideration.

    Join the resistance!!!! I hear we are going to hit close to $ 4.00 a
    gallon by next summer and it might go higher!!
    Want gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent,
    united action.

    Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea. This makes MUCH MORE SENSE
    than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign
    that
    was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at
    that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by
    refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it
    was
    a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up
    with
    a plan that can really work. Please read on and join with us!

    By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is
    super cheap. Me too! It is currently $2.79 for regular unleaded in my
    town. Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have
    conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of gas
    is
    CHEAP at $1.50 - $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to teach
    them
    that BUYERS control the marketplace..not sellers. With the price of
    gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The

    only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit
    someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And, we can do
    that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How?

    Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we
    CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a
    price war.

    Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY
    gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and

    MOBIL. If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to
    reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies
    will have to follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach
    literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple
    to
    do! Now , don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll
    explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

    I am sending this note to 30 people. If each of us send it to at least

    ten more (30 x 10 = 300) . and those 300 send it to at least ten more
    (300 x 10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches the
    sixth group of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION
    consumers.

    If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends
    each,
    then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level

    further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

    Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all! (If
    you
    don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do
    is
    send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a
    mathematician. But I am . so trust me on this one.) :-)

    How long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to
    ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300
    MILLION
    people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll
    bet
    you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting
    together we can make a difference.

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  • In-com-plete
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    The best thing to do is just steal gas. Get an El Camino with the license plate in the tailgate and let it down before you pull up to the pump. Oh...and you may want to wear a hood or a mask.

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  • Jewels
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    Haha

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  • Jaws
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    Originally posted by Jewels
    Save on gas....ride a horse.

    Better yet.............


















    You know what I'm going to say.....don't you?




















    Save a horse, ride a COWBOY.
    Lol, or ride an Elvis Cow

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  • Jared
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    Originally posted by Jewels
    Save on gas....ride a horse.

    Better yet.............


















    You know what I'm going to say.....don't you?




















    Save a horse, ride a COWBOY.

    *Looks for ten gallon hat and old Village People Halloween costume*

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  • LordTrychon
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    Originally posted by Jewels
    You know what I'm going to say.....don't you?

    Ooh ohh! Pick me!

    (no... not like that....)

    I know the answer!

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  • Jewels
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    Save on gas....ride a horse.

    Better yet.............


















    You know what I'm going to say.....don't you?




















    Save a horse, ride a COWBOY.

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  • Amigo_Bronco
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    There is something I don't like in that argument, and even in the context of the example it wouldn't work. First, if people are still eating the same amount of eggs, chances are that weekly the store will sell exactly the same amount and depending on the periodicity of the re-stocking process, could happen absolutely nothing.

    And even if it indeed changes things, in a couple of weeks everybody should be aware of that, and the possible price reduction would have been temporary.

    If you do something like that with gas, the only possible effect that could have is that you'd have to stop twice as many times, increasing your gas consumption every time that you start your engine after half-filling your tank.

    The only way to have an impact in gas prices is, reducing the use of the car, change habits:
    - Use public transportation as much as you can.
    - Car pool.
    - Limit your trips (if you can go to buy your groceries once every two weeks instead of once a week).
    - Don't drive faster than 60.
    - Don't use the AC.
    - Don't keep the engine running while you're still parking.
    - If you're considering buying a car, give fuel efficiency more importance.

    The bad news... in the short run, pretty much, we're helpless.

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