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    The parents of a toddler who needed surgery after being savaged by a Rottweiler called on Thursday for tighter measures to control dangerous dogs.

    Two-year-old Harvey Lawrence, who was bitten on the face, neck and body, was only saved when a neighbour heard screams and attacked the dog with a hammer.

    What should be done to control these animals?

    Are the owners to blame?

    Should all dogs be muzzled?

    I know that certain breeds of dogs can be useful as guard dogs etc, but why would anyone want to own some of these ugly breeds as pets. Take this ugly thing for instance. This is not the dog that caused the aforementioned attack, but who would want such a thing for a pet?
    Last edited by Jaws; 09-28-2006, 06:50 AM.

  • #2
    That dog looks like he's got some pitbull in him...

    Nevertheless...the OWNERS should be held responsible....all the way....

    The Owners got that dog to be intimidating, because no one in their right minds can "snuggle" up to something that ugly.

    When I purchased my dog (and I bought her when my daughter was 10)....
    I purposely looked for a dog that came with as few of liabilities as possible...
    the least amount of worries for biting....
    the most patient of demeanors....
    I bought a Golden Retriever....I have to protect her....
    But I know my child or other children will not be bitten by her.

    I anticipate that there will be a post on here sooner or later that states...

    It's "how you train the dog, not the breed"....but that will be hocky puck. :nono:

    I am very sorry for that child. I am not someone who cares for all these frivolous lawsuits....but I'd go after those owners with the momma bear in me...if that was my little girl.

    Good post, Jaws! You hear this all too often anymore!
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

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    • #3
      I like Golden retrievers. They are lovely dogs.

      If we didn't already have 11 Border Collie sheepdogs and a Kelpie, I'd probably get one.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jaws
        I like Golden retrievers. They are lovely dogs.

        If we didn't already have 11 Border Collie sheepdogs and a Kelpie, I'd probably get one.
        Besides, who needs a devil dog when there's a shark sharpening her teeth?

        Seriously though, the owners have to take at least some of the blame. When I was a kid, my uncle had a Rott and a Pitbull and they were two of the best behaved animals that I've ever come across.................

        By contrast, the mother-in-law is looking after some poxy little manicured rat thing that loathes me and can jump just high enough to do me some reaaaaaaal damage, if you know what I mean
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        • #5
          Leash laws must be enforced. Dangerous dogs must remain on leashes or simply make sure they are fenced in. Sad to hear about that child.
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          • #6
            I believe the owners are to blame. Also, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That's like asking "Who would want to date a fat chick?" Well, someone would.

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            • #7
              Definately the owners. Any dog can be bad, few are born that way though.

              My chow mix is the greatest dog ever though! Hes cute.

              Hes a good guard dog, but he allows friends and kids into the house.

              You cant hit anyone around him, or he gets mad.

              If you get upset or yell, he runs over to comfort you.

              and hes soft.

              and his tongue is speckled blue and pink!

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              • #8
                Ban all dogs, stick with skunks!

                You know where you stand with us (as far as possible )


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jaws
                  I like Golden retrievers. They are lovely dogs.

                  If we didn't already have 11 Border Collie sheepdogs and a Kelpie, I'd probably get one.

                  But I love border collies...they are so amazing to watch in action!

                  Jaws---what is a Kelpie? (Josey Wales *spit*---that's one of my favorites)!
                  "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Emancipator
                    Leash laws must be enforced. Dangerous dogs must remain on leashes or simply make sure they are fenced in. Sad to hear about that child.

                    I was thinking more on the lines....

                    Leash law must be enforced. Dangerous OWNERS must remain on their leashes or simply fence them in.
                    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by His Wife
                      But I love border collies...they are so amazing to watch in action!

                      Jaws---what is a Kelpie? (Josey Wales *spit*---that's one of my favorites)!
                      Anton might know a Kelpie or two as it's an aussie dog.



                      Ours is has some border collie blood too, so it's ears aren't as long as the ones shown on the website.

                      Loud barkers and they can drive you a bit dizzy as they like to run round in circles all the time but very lovable.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jaws
                        Anton might know a Kelpie or two as it's an aussie dog.



                        Ours is has some border collie blood too, so it's ears aren't as long as the ones shown on the website.

                        Loud barkers and they can drive you a bit dizzy as they like to run round in circles all the time but very lovable.

                        They look intimidating, but beautiful. Looks like a mix between german shepard and doberman pincher. (Yet...I know it's probably not). Thanks!
                        "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by His Wife
                          I was thinking more on the lines....

                          Leash law must be enforced. Dangerous OWNERS must remain on their leashes or simply fence them in.
                          That will work too.

                          That's exactly what it boils down too.
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                          • #14
                            i believe some dogs are inherantly dangerous...pitbulls for one...i would never have one

                            but i believe on dogs like dobermans and rotts they are extremly loyal....when raised as a pup with your children.....if not ...they will not hesitate to bite when annoyed

                            i had a rotwieler as a pup...he grew up around kids and even as a grown adult played all the time with them..tug awar was his faverite....but he was very protective of them..double so if i wasnt there....no body ...and i mean nobody was immune from his scrutiny of thier desires.....he would lay in the house if someone came over...by the kids if they were there and just watch the guests.....but as a pup i really disiplined him if he bit anyone even when playing...it got to the point he almost seemed sad if i yelled at him and came to beg forgiveness...so as an adult he growed, barked, slobbered,.....but never bit anyone

                            but i dont think it would apply if you already have a grown pet before you get kids....then get rid of the dog


                            but again that might just been the way i raised him also
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                            • #15
                              --- I agree with arapaho ---

                              --- I have raised and trained dogs them all my life ---

                              --- Pit bulls can be sweet and mellow for years and then just snap ---

                              --- When a bull grabs something, it wont let go ---

                              --- I've seen them bite their owners when being pried off of something ---

                              --- They genetically have something missing --- a veritable missing link ---

                              --- I heard all the pro-Pit Bull arguments, and nothing will convince me otherwise that these animals are ALWAYS dangerous ---

                              --- I have raised Dobies and Shephards, both can be vicious animals if not properly trained ---

                              --- Pit Bulls CANNOT be properly trained. Period.



                              --- Bulls were bred to fight to the death in pits while folks placed wagers on the dogs ---

                              --- That instinct cannot be "un-trained" ---


                              --- People who insist on raising Pit Bulls are a danger and they must be trying to make up something they lack in their self esteem by boasting possession of Bulls!



                              --- It makes me sick everytime a child is mauled or killed by these snapcases !!!




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                              --- This is a group of very well trained animals !!!




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                              Last edited by AZ Snake Fan; 09-28-2006, 06:25 PM.

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