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  • La. slip, slip, slipping away....

    Reading this, you might want to start looking to move further north.....
    A new report by scientists studying Louisiana's sinking coast says the land here is not just sinking, it's sliding ever so slowly into the Gulf of Mexico.

    The new findings may add a kink to plans being drawn up to build bigger and better levees to protect this historic city and Cajun bayou culture.

    If the land is shifting — even slightly — engineers may need to take that into consideration as they build new levees and draw lines across the coast to identify areas that should and shouldn't be protected.

    Researchers have known for years that the swampy land under south Louisiana is sinking (potholed streets and wobbly porches and floors are visible evidence of that) but a lateral movement of the land into the Gulf enters largely unstudied terrain.

    The report, which appeared in December's Geophysical Research Letters, a peer-reviewed journal published by the American Geophysical Union, says the bedrock under heavily populated southeast Louisiana is breaking away at a glacial speed — at the pace fingernails grow.

    The southward movement, the study says, is triggered by deep underground faults slipping under the enormous weight of sediment dumped by the Mississippi River.

    The slippage, though, is confined to a large egg-shaped area approximately 250 miles long and 180 miles wide that encompasses the delta of the Mississippi, which was built up by river deposits over the past 8,000 years, the report says.

    The report was based on data collected between 1995 and 2006 by Global Positioning System stations installed in recent years to better understand the dynamic nature of this delta the French settled in 300 years ago.

    "People should not be afraid that we're going to fall into the Gulf. That's not going to happen," said Roy Dokka, lead researcher and executive director of the Center for GeoInformatics at Louisiana State University.

    He described the slide into the Gulf as "a kind of avalanche of material, except that it is happening very slowly. It moved about the width of two credit cards this year."

    While that may seem trifling in the big picture, Dokka said engineers need to include this reality into their plans for levees, floodgates and other projects.

    Windell Curole, a levee and hurricane expert who is on a state board developing a master protection plan, said the phenomenon of sinking, or subsidence, has not been "included in a big way" in the new plan but that planners are "aware of it."

    "As we understand it better, we will include it," he said. "You have to be aware of the elevation issues and the rate — these things need to be in the equation."

    Flood protection planners have their work cut out for them as they choose between often competing theories about what is causing Louisiana to lose land at alarming rates. Since the 1930s, more than 2,000 square miles of coast sank or eroded.

    Some scientists believe oil and natural gas extraction in the middle and late 20th century caused much of the sinking; others say the land is caving in because the Mississippi River and other waterways were straightjacketed by levees, which stopped floodwaters from replenishing the soil.

    And some scientists have suggested the debate over subsidence is overstated.
    Oh wait....
    ...it's not as bad as once thought, though.....
    Torbjorn Tornqvist, an associate professor of earth and environmental sciences at Tulane University, found much of the region surprisingly stable and the rate of sinking to be at least 10 times less than previously reported.
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  • #2
    Even though I appreciate that New Orleans 'is home' for many,
    there's a lot of satellite pictures I've seen that show Louisianna is under
    water due to the hurricaine and never going to be the same again or dry.
    They've lost a great deal of land. Personally, I would not want to build
    my home in a place that is sinking. Call me crazy.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by His Wife
      Even though I appreciate that New Orleans 'is home' for many,
      there's a lot of satellite pictures I've seen that show Louisianna is under
      water due to the hurricaine and never going to be the same again or dry.
      They've lost a great deal of land. Personally, I would not want to build
      my home in a place that is sinking. Call me crazy.
      Crazy lady!
      (well, you said....)

      Seriously, I wouldnt want to build my home there, either. But I cant say I am suprised by this. The earth is moving all the time. The plates that the continents rest on either slide up against each other (causing earthquakes), or one slides on top of another, or under another. This helps keep up volcanic activity and mountain building.
      (I loved geology in school)

      As for LA., I've read that because a lot of the coastal barriers have either been drained or developed, it takes away from the natural protection of water and wind from hurricanes. Once that protection is gone, erosion begins to increase.

      Its like those fires in CA. You burn away the trees and foliage that keep the soil in place, and when it rains, it all comes sliding down, causing even more damage.

      A lot has been done to that region to shift the land the way we want it to. In the end, though, Mother Nature always has the last laugh. She does what she wants anyways. One of the many wonderful, zany things that happen on this Earth!
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      • #4
        Hey

        Which brings to mind the dikes they built in the Dutch Lowlands.

        It is amazing what kind of technology we have developed and how it is put to use.

        Always the desire to alter the landscape. To control nature.

        And... another subject is the people we choose to decide what is best for us all.


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        • #5
          Originally posted by PAINTERDAVE
          Which brings to mind the dikes they built in the Dutch Lowlands.

          It is amazing what kind of technology we have developed and how it is put to use.

          Always the desire to alter the landscape. To control nature.

          And... another subject is the people we choose to decide what is best for us all.


          Humanity. Incredible strength... incredible weakness.
          Reminds me of some houses I saw in one of my architecture classes.

          TThe Dutch actually made floating houses, so if a Katrina thing happened again (god forbid), the houses would be safe.

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          • #6
            ey

            Originally posted by cinnamunmun
            Reminds me of some houses I saw in one of my architecture classes.

            TThe Dutch actually made floating houses, so if a Katrina thing happened again (god forbid), the houses would be safe.
            What a trip!

            Just give all the section 8 folks houseboats!

            Ha ha.

            Another boondoggle.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by PAINTERDAVE
              What a trip!

              Just give all the section 8 folks houseboats!

              Ha ha.

              Another boondoggle.

              Could it be they are trying to come up with an excuse to not build the levees or, are they trying to squeeze out more funding for research or whatever?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PAINTERDAVE
                Which brings to mind the dikes they built in the Dutch Lowlands.

                It is amazing what kind of technology we have developed and how it is put to use.

                Always the desire to alter the landscape. To control nature.

                And... another subject is the people we choose to decide what is best for us all.


                Humanity. Incredible strength... incredible weakness.
                Dutch Dikes in the Lowlands?

                Got pix?
                "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
                tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of
                men."

                -- Samuel Adams

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