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    Houshmazode
    The Mountaineer

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    The thing I like best about Hurdle is that he tells his players to simplify their at-bats when they're in a hitting slump individually or as a team instead of driving them nuts with a bunch of tweaks and adjustments thrown out there just to see if they'll work. It's a simple approach but it's worked well for him and his teams when they're in need of a lift.

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    Screw this team.

    Go Orioles.

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  • Blondie79
    All-Time Great

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    It really doesnt matter whoever is/has been a manager in this organization is in a position to fail the FO doesnt believe in fielding a winning team, they could care less who they name manager for the simple reason its a dictatorship. What they say goes, a manager is just someone to pass the blame on too. Granted walt has the emotion of a snail and should never have been hired for this role.

    As long as momforts are getting there $$ nothing else matters


    Not looking forward to the day the players like cargo realize this and look to be traded.

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  • DenverBlood
    Football Immortal

  • DenverBlood
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    Originally posted by Broncoholic3233 View Post
    No, I don't need a refresher.

    Looking back at the teams he had from 2002-2008/9...and looking at the records with some of them is pretty decent.

    Then you take a look at all the talent and potential Walt has right now...and I just wonder what Hurdle could do with this group of guys.

    No reason our offense shouldn't be top 3-5.

    Our defense is great.

    We have 2 really good starters in Chacin and DLR. We have a good one in Chatwood. Decent and high potential in Nicasio. And strictly potential in Pomeranz.

    Our bullpen should be solid at worst with Ottavino, Belisle, Brothers and Betancourt. Lopez was supposed to be good.

    I'd love to see what Hurdle could get out of this team.

    That however doesn't mean Hurdle would be my first choice for a new coach.
    I get all that man. I said in my first post I'm no fan of Walt.

    I just don't really get the Hurdle love. Even if he is part of helping the Pirates turn it around.

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  • Broncoholic3233
    #OrangeandBlue #PFM

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    Dickerson is a boss

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  • Blondie79
    All-Time Great

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    lol WOW @ that double play

    poor base running but good job by torre

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  • Broncoholic3233
    #OrangeandBlue #PFM

  • Broncoholic3233
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    No, I don't need a refresher.

    Looking back at the teams he had from 2002-2008/9...and looking at the records with some of them is pretty decent.

    Then you take a look at all the talent and potential Walt has right now...and I just wonder what Hurdle could do with this group of guys.

    No reason our offense shouldn't be top 3-5.

    Our defense is great.

    We have 2 really good starters in Chacin and DLR. We have a good one in Chatwood. Decent and high potential in Nicasio. And strictly potential in Pomeranz.

    Our bullpen should be solid at worst with Ottavino, Belisle, Brothers and Betancourt. Lopez was supposed to be good.

    I'd love to see what Hurdle could get out of this team.

    That however doesn't mean Hurdle would be my first choice for a new coach.

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  • The Experience
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  • The Experience
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    Originally posted by DenverBlood View Post
    Excuses. The Rockies had plenty of talent the years he was here.

    And that 90 games below because of the Rockies completely ignores that he has a losing record in Pittsburgh in three seasons despite this season.

    Not to mention I know this current 4 game losing streak isn't a big deal yet. But it already has their fans wondering if oh here we go again.

    Pirates ownership has a history of dispatching talent at the trade deadline. Their ownership is no better just because this year is going well. We had 2 years like that in the past 6 as well. Granted hurdle was at the helm of one but it was a lightning in a bottle finish to an average season.

    I'll give him credit if they hang on for the postseason. But I think some of y'alls memory needs a refresher.

    I do agree however that Walt is bad. But I want no part of Hurdle again.
    Have you watched the Pirates the past few years? When Hurdle took over that team was beyond awful. The past 2 years they have gotten off to great starts only to fade the 2nd half of the year. This year they look built for the long haul. Baseball is not like other sports, it takes years to build a team. Especially with a team franchise like Pitt.

    As for their ownership, they have made moves the past few years at the deadline to get better. And in the offseason. So their ownership is light years ahead of our pathetic owners.

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  • DenverBlood
    Football Immortal

  • DenverBlood
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    Originally posted by The Experience View Post
    Well, it's pretty obvious that it was The Rockies FO that is the reason he is 90 under. Now he has a FO that wants to win and look whats happening.

    Walt ties Buddy Bell for worst manager in franchise history. I like Walt, but he is clueless.
    Originally posted by Broncoholic3233 View Post
    Bingo.

    10char
    Originally posted by Blondie79 View Post
    amen - couldnt have said it better.
    Excuses. The Rockies had plenty of talent the years he was here.

    And that 90 games below because of the Rockies completely ignores that he has a losing record in Pittsburgh in three seasons despite this season.

    Not to mention I know this current 4 game losing streak isn't a big deal yet. But it already has their fans wondering if oh here we go again.

    Pirates ownership has a history of dispatching talent at the trade deadline. Their ownership is no better just because this year is going well. We had 2 years like that in the past 6 as well. Granted hurdle was at the helm of one but it was a lightning in a bottle finish to an average season.

    I'll give him credit if they hang on for the postseason. But I think some of y'alls memory needs a refresher.

    I do agree however that Walt is bad. But I want no part of Hurdle again.

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  • Blondie79
    All-Time Great

  • Blondie79
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    Originally posted by The Experience View Post
    Well, it's pretty obvious that it was The Rockies FO that is the reason he is 90 under. Now he has a FO that wants to win and look whats happening.

    Walt ties Buddy Bell for worst manager in franchise history. I like Walt, but he is clueless.
    amen - couldnt have said it better.

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  • Broncoholic3233
    #OrangeandBlue #PFM

  • Broncoholic3233
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    Originally posted by The Experience View Post
    Well, it's pretty obvious that it was The Rockies FO that is the reason he is 90 under. Now he has a FO that wants to win and look whats happening.

    Walt ties Buddy Bell for worst manager in franchise history. I like Walt, but he is clueless.
    Bingo.

    10char

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  • The Experience
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  • The Experience
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    Originally posted by famicommander View Post
    Clint Hurdle is 90 games under .500 as a manager and there's a reason for that. Weiss deserves criticism for a lot of things this year but you're looking at Hurdle through rose colored glasses.

    Hurdle wasn't Jim Tracy terrible, but he wasn't anything special either.
    Well, it's pretty obvious that it was The Rockies FO that is the reason he is 90 under. Now he has a FO that wants to win and look whats happening.

    Walt ties Buddy Bell for worst manager in franchise history. I like Walt, but he is clueless.

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  • famicommander
    Starter

  • famicommander
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    Clint Hurdle is 90 games under .500 as a manager and there's a reason for that. Weiss deserves criticism for a lot of things this year but you're looking at Hurdle through rose colored glasses.

    Hurdle wasn't Jim Tracy terrible, but he wasn't anything special either.

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  • Blondie79
    All-Time Great

  • Blondie79
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    Originally posted by Broncoholic3233 View Post
    They can have Walt if they want a new manager. Ill take hurdle back in a second
    Ditto i was unhappy back then when we fired him. Never wanted to see him gone in first place

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  • Broncoholic3233
    #OrangeandBlue #PFM

  • Broncoholic3233
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    They can have Walt if they want a new manager. Ill take hurdle back in a second

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  • DenverBlood
    Football Immortal

  • DenverBlood
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    Originally posted by Broncoholic3233 View Post
    Damn it, Walt...get yourself some cajones.

    Back your damn team up with some fire for once. Should've taken notes from a real manager, Hurdle.
    I know a couple of Pirates fans who would strongly disagree with that last part.

    Even in spite of this year. They aren't getting their hopes up with Hurdle after the collapses he had with them the past two seasons. Not until they hit magic number 82 anyway.

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