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  • #46
    I wonder if TDK wasnt a batman themed movie, it if wouldve been nominate/won.

    Like if it was just a movie about a guy (not batman. no suit, gadets, etc.) that acts as a vigilante or cities' protector, but is unwilling to kill like batman, going up against someone like the Joker.

    Same personality as Batman. Same sense of justice and all that. Same unwillingness to be an executioner. All of that is the same, its just not batman.

    Because if you look at TDK it goes very deep into the psychology of human beings. It pushes one man to have to look deep inside himself and he fights with himself to decide what he must do to stop this seemingly unstoppable figure. One man that feels like the weight and burdens of many people are on his shoulders. Now think if the very people he protects turn on him. Then hes left alone to fight an apparently unwinnable battle unless he turned on his own beliefs.

    Something tells me if TDK was the same basic thing minus Batman, it wouldve been recognized alot more by the Academy.
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    • #47
      I did not see Slumdog Millionaire but the last movie I went and saw was The Dark Knight.

      There are a few more movies I want to see this year and I was hoping that I would be able to see the Argentine and Guerrilla. But such is the way with films in "foreign languages". Hope to catch them on DVD soon.
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      • #48
        TDK was ok. It was entertaining.... and it had the best actor of the year playing the villian.... but its still an action flic and wouldn't get more acknowledgment because of that.

        TDK was also just too long. Seriously. There were three different times I started to stand up because I thought the movie was over, only to see the movie fade yet into ANOTHER scene. Towards the end, it was like "is it ever going to end?" Then.... they yet again kill off a bad guy (two face).

        TDK was good... just like Taken was very good... but I just don't see it as this "all time great" movie that should have won academy awards type film.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by RealBronco View Post

          Hands down The Passion of the Christ was a far better film that Slumdog Millionaire. Let's take out culture, let's take out religion. The films at their core, as film: The Passion had a better score, better cinematography, better performances, wonderful lighting, great make-up etc., and yet Slumdog just didn't impress in those areas at all. Again, the acting was campy and almost phoned in with Slumdog, the score was okay for the most part. The cinematography was decent, but definitely didn't deserve that award over some of the others it was against.



          I want to disagree that TDK won the categories it deserved. While yes it did in the two categories it did win, but I felt like it was robbed of Cinematography and Sound Editing, at least. No I don't think it deserved Make-Up because really the only major make-up was Ledger... etc. but it definitely deserved more than the 2 wins it got. Hel it even deserved Best Score over Slumdog but it wasn't nominated for that at all.

          but let me continue the discussion about Fireproof. Why is it just a "fine movie" but "nothing spectacular"? It had a fantastic message and it's been a wonderful tool for marriages on a huge scale. I'd say it has a similar moral message on the other side as Brokeback Mountain tried to convey on the other hand. And yet for some reason Brokeback Mountain is this "groundbreaking" "inspiring" film that everyone has to see? Why? what makes it so special? What makes it so much better than any other love story out there? Bigger budget? Bigger name actors? The director that butchered The Hulk? I don't know... but it sure as heck wasn't plot or story line... as I've said before we've seen that a thousand times over. Why care more about Brokeback than Fireproof if you're going to compare the two... and really the only reason you would is because one was made by a Christian church with Christian values and the other promotes a lifestyle contrary to those Christian values.

          eh. I just don't see what makes Brokeback so spectacular without it's so called "controversial slant."

          I agree with you that The Passion is probably a better film than Slumdog. So many people were impacted by that movie and I think that's great. It was well done and powerful. I wouldn't have been upset if it had won Best Picture.

          I'm sorry, but Fireproof is just an average movie in my opinion. I liked it just fine, I didn't say it was bad. I would probably buy it and have it in my collection of DVDs. But I don't feel like it is comparable to any film that has been nominated for Best Picture. Its a good movie yes, but is it great? No.

          Concerning Brokeback Mountain...well obviously it would be a completely different movie if it wasn't about two men in love. But that is not all the movie is about. It too portrays martial relationships, families and in my opinion it sends a good message. I don't know if Brokeback should have been recognized by the Academy, but what I do know is that I very much enjoyed it. I thought it was a beautiful movie to watch, and a great love story.

          I see nothing wrong with enjoying religious films and those that may go against Christian beliefs. I feel like that is what is being interpreted from my posts, and I just wanted to point out that it isn't the case. If the Academy had felt Fireproof was deserving of being honored, that would have been fine with me...because they know far more about movie making than I do. But really, it just feels like a glorified lifetime movie.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Snapping Turtle View Post
            I agree with you that The Passion is probably a better film than Slumdog. So many people were impacted by that movie and I think that's great. It was well done and powerful. I wouldn't have been upset if it had won Best Picture.

            I'm sorry, but Fireproof is just an average movie in my opinion. I liked it just fine, I didn't say it was bad. I would probably buy it and have it in my collection of DVDs. But I don't feel like it is comparable to any film that has been nominated for Best Picture. Its a good movie yes, but is it great? No.

            Concerning Brokeback Mountain...well obviously it would be a completely different movie if it wasn't about two men in love. But that is not all the movie is about. It too portrays martial relationships, families and in my opinion it sends a good message. I don't know if Brokeback should have been recognized by the Academy, but what I do know is that I very much enjoyed it. I thought it was a beautiful movie to watch, and a great love story.

            I see nothing wrong with enjoying religious films and those that may go against Christian beliefs. I feel like that is what is being interpreted from my posts, and I just wanted to point out that it isn't the case. If the Academy had felt Fireproof was deserving of being honored, that would have been fine with me...because they know far more about movie making than I do. But really, it just feels like a glorified lifetime movie.
            Well I definitely appreciate your comments. I think if I strip my comments down to the bare bones, basically if you take out all the cultural and moral etc stuff... I just didn't see why B.M. was such a "groundbreaking" film, at the same time, I definitely wouldn't say that Fireproof deserved any Academy awards....and I don't think Brokeback did either.

            They've still got a long journey ahead (the church that made Fireproof) before they're going to be at the film-making level of say Curious Case, or whatever... but as far as independent film goes, I figure it's not any worse than some of the rest.

            *shrugs* Some years there just aren't any movies in the "Best Picture" category that really deserve it. heh.
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            • #51
              I finally got to see Slumdog yesterday, and I think it was a special movie. Unfortunately I can't compare it to anything really, as it's the only movie I've seen that was nominated. But I loved the storyline, the detail, the connections, the lasting affair between two people, the harsh reality of India's situation, even the dance scene, and of course......the ending. I believe the phone call scene was one of the more unique moments in film history. It summed up the purpose of the whole movie in a very brief period of time.

              Now I need to catch some of the others, and if they are 2/3rds as good as Slumdog, it will be worth the time and money spent. Given that I am a big Sean Penn fan, have always been intrigued by the character Mickey Rourke, like the concept of a person aging in reverse, hear that Kate W was impressive (again), and so on, I think I'm in for a real treat!!

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              • #52
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