The next Superman.....

[Southstander]

good list. i wonder how many people never think of Wolverine as not being American.

They probably think he is from Michigan ......

[RealBronco]

Non Americans in Comics

Nightcrawler
Collosus
Sabertooth
Wolverine
Knight (British Batman)
Squire (British Robin)
Crimson Dynimo
Whiplash (at least in IM2)
Dr. Doom
Wonder Woman
Gorilla Grod
Supergirl
Gen Sod
Bizzaro
Mr. Myxlplyx
Thor
Loki
Frito Bandito


And that's off the top of my head.

good list. i wonder how many people never think of Wolverine as not being American.

[Southstander]

Non Americans in Comics

Nightcrawler
Collosus
Sabertooth
Wolverine
Knight (British Batman)
Squire (British Robin)
Crimson Dynimo
Whiplash (at least in IM2)
Dr. Doom
Wonder Woman
Gorilla Grod
Supergirl
Gen Zod
Bizzaro
Mr. Myxlplyx
Thor
Loki
Frito Bandito


And that's off the top of my head.

[RealBronco]

:facepalm:

You do understand the difference between being an icon and an American Icon right?

yeah, but i see Batman as an American icon too, in the sense that he can be anyway.

i'd say Captain America is a bigger American Icon than Superman...just based on what HE'S all about.

i dunno. just don't see why a foreigner can't play a fictional character. like i said, if a foreigner can play an American President (as has been done before actually, and if Speilberg's Lincoln film ever gets going)....than this isn't as big of a deal.

are there really very many superheros from DC and Marvel that AREN'T American? other than Magneto and Storm?

i don't think it matters who their creators are either as someone from here could create an Australian super hero just as well as someone from Russia could create an American super hero, and if that American super hero in a Russian comic book had American values, would he be an American Icon? lol.

anyway. i'm making this difficult on purpose smashie. he's fictional. anyone can play him.

[McSmashie]

i dunno. i don't think Superman is any more an icon than Batman... maybe slightly.

:facepalm:

You do understand the difference between being an icon and an American Icon right?

[RealBronco]

Canada is America Jr. so technically he is kinda American.



Again, big difference between an icon and an AMERICAN icon.

As far as the Russian thing, I never read that so I cant speak to it.

i dunno. i don't think Superman is any more an icon than Batman... maybe slightly.

they are both the flagship heros of DC Comics and they've both been around for roughly the same amount of time with Supes a wee bit longer.

i mean i understand what you're gettin' at, but when we have Liam Neeson or Daniel Day Lewis potentially playing Abraham Lincoln, i think this guy can get away with playing the fictional Superman.

[McSmashie]

Co creator of Superman (Joe Shuster) was Canadian. Idea that an All American guy has to play superman, or even a foreigner sounds strange to play him does not do that much for me considering his co-creator was from the Great White North.

Canada is America Jr. so technically he is kinda American.

i think Batman is just as big of an icon as Superman. i see what you're saying, just based on the way the Superman story goes. Truth, Justice and the American way blah blah blah.

but so what. Bruce Wayne is just as American and patriotic, if not more so considering he's actually HUMAN.

what about the alternate cannon where Superman landed in Russia instead and became a RUSSIAN icon?

Again, big difference between an icon and an AMERICAN icon.

As far as the Russian thing, I never read that so I cant speak to it.

[Bronco_Armada]

what about the alternate cannon where Superman landed in Russia instead and became a RUSSIAN icon?

[RealBronco]

It was the kid. The kid is like a cancer that grows and envelopes the whole movie in a bag of cancer-fail.

And also Lois being married and Superman doing a peeping Tom.

And also yet another failed Lex land venture.

It was a weird decision to do an homage to the Donner film.

haha. yeah the kid thing was weird. i mean it's not inaccurate. they do have a kid together whom Bruce Wayne becomes the Godfather of. but the timing is wrong in the film.

the peepin tom thing, i can see how that would be unnecessary. and yeah, what's with Lex Luthor trying and trying to make it in real estate and failing? i think mostly because instead of being a "returns" story it was more like a remake with a returns story thrown in. but at least they explained why he was gone.

Batman is different though. While Batman is an iconic character, he isnt an American icon. The Batman character doesnt represent the ideals of the country as a whole.

eh. i think Batman is just as big of an icon as Superman. i see what you're saying, just based on the way the Superman story goes. Truth, Justice and the American way blah blah blah.

but so what. Bruce Wayne is just as American and patriotic, if not more so considering he's actually HUMAN.

what about the alternate cannon where Superman landed in Russia instead and became a RUSSIAN icon?

[Bronco_Armada]

None of these characters are a personification of the American ideal though.

This is like finding out that Uncle Sam was Brazilian.

Its not a question of whether or not this actor can "act" American. It is the idea of taking a image so readily identified with a people and handing it off to someone that isn't represented by that icon.

John Bull is British.

Uncle Sam is American. And, by adoption, so is Superman.

Co creator of Superman (Joe Shuster) was Canadian. Idea that an All American guy has to play superman, or even a foreigner sounds strange to play him does not do that much for me considering his co-creator was from the Great White North.

[Bronco_Armada]

nooooooo????? Really?

Yes. They seem to be rather good at hiding their accent.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0402271/

[Southstander]

There will now be a Brit playing Superman, Batman, Spider-man, and Thor.

Now I know how the Brits felt with Robert Downey Jr. playing Sherlock Holmes.

This is almost like a British invasion.

[Southstander]

Why in the Hell are you saddened over that ? that movie was garbage every single piece of it that was a terrible terrible movie ... who directed that CRAP ??? ...


OH yeah BRYAN SINGER

Because I liked it.

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

Superman movies has always been my favorite movies of all time.It will never be another actor to play superman good as Christopher Reeve,he was the best!

[Tony]

I'm fine with the pick. My concern is that i hope snyder avoids telling an orgin story of the character. It seemed okay when singer did it, but i would like to see a more straightforward story this time around. One thing's for sure is that snyder will add the action, which returns lacked heavily.