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  • #16
    Originally posted by IZAAK
    I like some rap music... I like the beats a lot, but I do not like the lyrical content... I cannot relate with shooting people and stuff (I know not all rap talks about that).

    I guess the main reason is because they brag so much and I cannot stand when people do that. They rap about all their cars and big houses and [email protected] like that... There is really no need for that in music. IMO

    Many are all about money and image and that is not what music is about in my opinion.

    The things I look for in music is 1)Talent which rap has lyrically but its not hard to make beat... I use to have a drum machine... 2) Energy.. It doesn't seem to that rap has as much energy as Metal music or even bands like Phish..

    That is just my opinion, take it for what it's worth.

    I listen to rap obviously, and i understand what you are saying about the content. I don't like it either when artists talk about money, cars and jewelery, but that's why i listen to artists like Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Common, Outkast and of course 2Pac because they are more of a conscious type of rap. They talk about real issues that go on in the world and not just about the typical bling-bling stuff.

    But it's all apples and oranges and it's not a big deal to me if someone doesn't like rap. The world would be boring if we all thought the same way.

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    • #17
      I love rap, well - I love good rap. Like Izaak, it's all about whats in the content. I don't care how big the wheels on your car are, I don't care how much crystale you drink - I don't care about the X amount of sexual acts you have with X amount of (insert derogitory word for a woman here).

      I just hate all the dime-a-dozen no-talent junk rappers that are all over right now. I'm a Dr. Dre kinda fellow, I like almost anything that came out of Death Row, and most of the artists on shady/aftermath today.

      But I too, would rather listen to techno

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Big Bad John
        I noticed a fair portion of you guys on the music survey threads have a disdain for Rap music. Why do you dislike it so much? Is it that you can't relate to it? I'll bet that you can
        I am very curious to see what responses come from this. I expect to see some really good ones too, as many of you are of above average intelligence, IMO.
        Aren't "rap" and "music" a contradiction in terms? Nonetheless, I appreciate rap. I really do. I REALLY appreciate it when it is taken somewhere else--where I can't hear it.
        Last edited by topscribe; 04-18-2005, 02:12 PM.

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        • #19
          If you can't listen to Tupac Shakur and admit that the man was an immense talent, you may have a preconception. The lyrics are well thought out and somewhat sensible. Although I personally cannot relate to many of the situations in rap, I try to understand all rap artists and AFTER listening, decide whether or not they are worth my while...
          I've walked these streets, a loaded six-string on my back, I play for keeps 'cause I might not make it back, I've been everywhere still I'm standin' tall, I've seen a million faces and I've rocked them all!!:salute!:

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          • #20
            Why can't I appreciate Rap? Well, it's not that I don't appreciate it... it's just that anyone can mutter a bunch of jibberish and slang terms over a microphone and drum machine and I mean anybody. Heck, I might as well throw some pots and pans in there for good measure, maybe even a little bass guitar. I could make a rap album in less than a day if I wanted to. But wasting my time and effort when I can actually press for something that actually takes talent... just seems asinine.

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            • #21
              Most rap is based on the ability to "free-style" without any instruments or sythesizers. They usually pick up a sample of someone elses music for the sake of the "hook".
              I wouldn't say too much about the subject matter either, most metal is about death.
              Can you honestly say to yourself that you have given it a real listen.... or are you following a popular opinion amongst your peers?
              I've walked these streets, a loaded six-string on my back, I play for keeps 'cause I might not make it back, I've been everywhere still I'm standin' tall, I've seen a million faces and I've rocked them all!!:salute!:

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Big Bad John
                Most rap is based on the ability to "free-style" without any instruments or sythesizers. They usually pick up a sample of someone elses music for the sake of the "hook".
                I wouldn't say too much about the subject matter either, most metal is about death.
                Can you honestly say to yourself that you have given it a real listen.... or are you following a popular opinion amongst your peers?
                It's hard for me to imagine any rap without instruments and synths these days, it's kind of hard to rap without a beat. Everything is becoming more modern these days.

                Most metal is about death? Well, they have a genre called Death Metal for that. There is a wide variety of ways to intepret "death" in metal. I don't even classify the bands I like by genre. If I like it, I like it. Most of the music I listen to is so eclectic anyway it's hard to place a finger on what it is.

                I've given rap a real listen, I actually used to enjoy listening to it when I was younger. Then I realized how stupid I was. I don't like a lot of the baggage that comes along with rap music. What they talk about, how they exploid women in their videos, etc. I like music that actually has something interesting to talk about. I think it's a vast over-statement when saying most metal is about death -- and I think it's a vast under-statment saying that rap is anything but what I've said. Sure, there are few that actually have decent content in their works -- and I can tolerate that stuff. But I get sick of the, "bling-bling, I got ho's and you dont'z" crap that's put on the airwaves everday.

                About my peers, what they listen to has no effect on me. A lot of them are into the rap scene because they think it's cool to conform and mold into society.

                Have you ever seen those morons on MTV? I'm not trying to say that rap is just for the african american public, but it's hilarious to try and see a "white boy" get down to something that generally pertains to a culture completely different than theirs.

                I'd take a little Nazareth over the 504 Boyz any day.

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                • #23
                  Anybody who cant appreciate an artist like emeniem(sp) who puts his life, his beliefs into his songs should go in a corner, sit down and think about what they are saying. Emeniem is an amazing artist and i love all his songs. Especially ''Mosh" who has the kods to go as far as challenging the government? Who has the kods to write a song about his daughter? Who has the kods to discriminate Michael Jackson in a song? Who has the kods to write a song saying "We're ending this feud with Ja Rule"?

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                  • #24
                    i dont like 50 cent he brag about getting shot 9 times asbout 50 times in one cd But i love rap and hiphop

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Broncology
                      I'm not trying to say that rap is just for the african american public, but it's hilarious to try and see a "white boy" get down to something that generally pertains to a culture completely different than theirs.

                      You just said it.

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                      • #26
                        not a big rap fan myself. Its got energy. But most of the songs you hear are "look at my hos, i got 34 inch diamond incrusted rims, wtf is this shiny crap in my mouth" music. some of it is tolerable. but the one thing that completely killed rap for me was the day i heard a rap song based on ozzy's Crazy Train. I mean.... wtf?

                        I have a problem with eminem. and no im not saying "you cant rap cuz youre white". The guy's lyrics are good. His message is good, but his voice just doesnt have the power that a lot of rappers' do. its kinda weak
                        Superintendent Chalmers: "Thank the Lord"? That sounded like a prayer. A prayer in a public school. God has no place within these walls, just like facts don't have a place within an organized religion."

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Broncology
                          It's hard for me to imagine any rap without instruments and synths these days, it's kind of hard to rap without a beat. Everything is becoming more modern these days.

                          Most metal is about death? Well, they have a genre called Death Metal for that. There is a wide variety of ways to intepret "death" in metal. I don't even classify the bands I like by genre. If I like it, I like it. Most of the music I listen to is so eclectic anyway it's hard to place a finger on what it is.

                          I've given rap a real listen, I actually used to enjoy listening to it when I was younger. Then I realized how stupid I was. I don't like a lot of the baggage that comes along with rap music. What they talk about, how they exploid women in their videos, etc. I like music that actually has something interesting to talk about. I think it's a vast over-statement when saying most metal is about death -- and I think it's a vast under-statment saying that rap is anything but what I've said. Sure, there are few that actually have decent content in their works -- and I can tolerate that stuff. But I get sick of the, "bling-bling, I got ho's and you dont'z" crap that's put on the airwaves everday.

                          About my peers, what they listen to has no effect on me. A lot of them are into the rap scene because they think it's cool to conform and mold into society.

                          Have you ever seen those morons on MTV? I'm not trying to say that rap is just for the african american public, but it's hilarious to try and see a "white boy" get down to something that generally pertains to a culture completely different than theirs.

                          I'd take a little Nazareth over the 504 Boyz any day.


                          Sorry, I hope that you don't think that I had directed that at you... I would have quoted, were it the case.
                          I can most definately agree that I like music concerning what in my opinion is a more intelligent subject matter. TOOL for instance write some of the most intellectual lyrics of music that I listen to.
                          Here are some rap lyrics that I have heard lately:
                          "They say I'm no good 'cause I'm so hood, rich folk do not want me around, 'cause it might pop-off and when it pop-off somebody gonna get laid the f*** out, - "How we do" by 50 cent/Game
                          "Hate it or love it the underdogs on top , and I'm gonna shine homey 'till my heart stops, go ahead and envy me, I'm rap's mvp and I aint goin' nowhere so you can get to know me" - "Hate it or love it" by 50 cent/game
                          "If you feelin' like a pimp homey go on brush your shoulders off, ladies is pimps too go on brush your shoulers off, n***az is crazy baby don't forget that boy told you get that dirt off your shoulder" - "Dirt off your shoulder" by Jay-Z

                          Is it the confidence that offends....
                          I've walked these streets, a loaded six-string on my back, I play for keeps 'cause I might not make it back, I've been everywhere still I'm standin' tall, I've seen a million faces and I've rocked them all!!:salute!:

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                          • #28
                            I've heard all the rap I care to sitting at a stoplight listening to some dork who thinks it's cool to spew that garbage far and wide.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JakesTheMan
                              I've heard all the rap I care to sitting at a stoplight listening to some dork who thinks it's cool to spew that garbage far and wide.

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                              I wouldn't attribute that directly to Rap music...more of a testament to the mediocre size of ones "special area"
                              I've walked these streets, a loaded six-string on my back, I play for keeps 'cause I might not make it back, I've been everywhere still I'm standin' tall, I've seen a million faces and I've rocked them all!!:salute!:

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by JakesTheMan
                                I've heard all the rap I care to sitting at a stoplight listening to some dork who thinks it's cool to spew that garbage far and wide.

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                                I hear ya.......whats worse is when your pumping gas and some ass decides to keep his crap errrrr I mean rap music playing at 100 decibels.....
                                Go Broncos, Capitals, and Orioles



                                Thanks SNK16

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