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    Wow! Survivor is still a few weeks away, but I just learned of a new twist that should make this season very interesting to watch.

    Survivior plays the race card.

    Check it out.



    Some may call it exploiting racial tensions. CBS calls it darn good television.

    Jeff Probst popped in on The Early Show Wednesday morning, confirming the reports that the 20 castaways for Survivor: Cook Islands will be grouped by race, with competitors divided into four tribes consisting of whites, blacks, Asians and Hispanics.


    Apparently, "separate but equal" holds only the warmest of connotations for Mark Burnett.


    Like a good host, Probst had nothing but praise for the producers' controversial brainchild, calling the exercise in segregation a valuable social experiment, rather than a stunt to dig up some controversy--and raise ratings.


    "The idea for this actually came from the criticism that Survivor was not ethnically diverse enough, because for whatever reason, we always have a low number of minority applicants apply for the show," Probst said.


    "So we set out and said, 'Let's turn this criticism into creative for the show.' And I think it fits perfectly with what Survivor does, which is, it is a social experiment. And this is adding another layer to that experiment, which is taking the show to a completely different level."


    Different level, yes. Good level, still to be determined.


    "If I had been a producer of this show, it is not an idea I would have come up with or given approval to," Robert Thompson, director of the Center for the Study of Popular Television at Syracuse University, told E! Online. "It's like a return back to segregated leagues in sports. The unseemly interest this will invite certainly is not worth the dramatic elements it's going to bring."


    "To the less-than-open minded person, it is very easy to trash us," Burnett explained to Entertainment Weekly. "But we're smart enough to not make it negative. We're smart enough to have gotten rid of every racist person in casting."


    Though more to the point, the producers haven't and can't weed out every racially sensitive person in their audience who may take offense to the seemingly archaic, and potentially socially irresponsible, division.


    While the 43-year-old host admitted that the players themselves had "mixed reactions" to the racial separation, he made clear that the division was not meant to incite any controversy, add to the tension during the competition or simply be viewed as a gimmick.


    "Our original idea was simply to have the most ethnically diverse group of people on TV. It wasn't until we got to casting and started noticing this theme of ethnic pride that we started thinking, 'Wow, if culture is still playing such a big part in these people's lives, that's our idea. Let's divide them based on ethnicity,' " he said.


    Though not everyone is as excited about the idea as Probst and his Survivor crew.


    "It sounds like a gimmick a lot of people are going to have real issues as to the taste of," Thompson said.


    Referencing Burnett's previous experiments on Survivor and The Apprentice to divide teams by boys vs. girls and, more recently on the latter, by street smarts vs. book smarts, Thompson said that "these things don't often work so well in less dicey situations."


    And any publicity is good publicity, right?


    "As far as getting some attention, getting it talked about again, this'll do it," Thompson said. "Survivor is a great game. It's the gold standard of reality TV. But nobody seems to talk about it anymore."


    Or watch it.

    Survivor: Cook Islands will be the reality show's 13th installment and comes on the heels of the least watched season in the series' history. Despite garnering an Emmy nod for Best Reality Competition, Survivor: Panama--Exile Island, which split the tribes based on gender and age, averaged a franchise-low 16.8 million viewers. Hence the latest drastic measure.

    CBS Entertainment president Nina Tassler told EW that while she was hesitant to give the go-ahead on the "risky idea," she finally relented, saying it was the logical next step in "a show that explores social politics."

    "It's not just 18 white people," Probst told the magazine. "Suddenly you have new slang, new rituals--people doing things like making fire in ways that haven't been done on Survivor. I think we have a season where people will say you can never go back to what you were before."

    It's not the first time a primetime reality show has flirted with race, though it will be the first time one follows through.

    Last year, Donald Trump hinted that The Apprentice was toying with the idea of dividing his two teams by race, only to backtrack on the notion when backlash started up, saying "I personally don't like it, so it will never happen."


    Survivor: Cook Islands kicks off Sept. 14. Here's a list of the competitors:


    Rebecca Borman, 24, makeup artist, Laurelton, New York;
    Anh-Tuan "Cao Boi" Bui, 42, nail salon manager, Christiansburg, Virginia;
    Sekou Bunch, 45, jazz musician, Los Angeles;
    J.P. Calderon, 30, pro volleyball player, Marina Del Rey, California;
    Cristina Coria, 35, police officer, Los Angeles;
    Stephannie Favor, 35, nursing student, Columbia, South Carolina;
    Billy Garcia, 36, heavy metal guitarist, New York City;
    Adam Gentry, 28, copier sales, San Diego;
    Nathan Gonzalez, 26, retail sales, Los Angeles;
    Jenny Guzon-Bae, 36, real estate agent, Lake Forest, Illinois;
    Yul Kwon, 31, management consultant, San Mateo, California;
    Becky Lee, 28, attorney, Washington, D.C.;
    Oscar "Ozzy" Lusth, 25, waiter, Venice, California;
    Cecilia Mansilla, 29, technology risk consultant, Oakland;
    Sundra Oakley, 31, actress, Los Angeles;
    Jonathan Penner, 44, writer/producer, Los Angeles;
    Parvati Shallow, 23, boxer/waitress, Los Angeles;
    Jessica Smith, 27, performance artist/rollergirl, Chico, California;
    Brad Virata, 29, fashion director, Los Angeles;
    Candice Woodcock, 23, premed student, Fayetteville, North Carolina.


    :dance: :shake: :clap:

  • #2
    I got money on the poorest black guy :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:


    Cause we know he has the athletic skills, and he is street smart if he was poor. Also being poor he probably ate alot of junk that wasnt very apetizing. :dance:
    Club Leader: Robert Griffin III > Andrew Luck

    ^^^Get used to it.^^^

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    • #3
      Let the stereotypes fly!

      This is going to be very interesting season.

      I think the white people are DOOMED.

      They'll all have automatic targets on their back.



      :idiot:

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      • #4
        Usually I don't care about this kinda stuff (race stuff), but this seems to be in very poor taste...to me. Whatever works I guess.

        Edit-They were discussing which races would do poorly at certain events today on a local radio station.

        Here's my take:

        Water events-black tribe automatically last

        ...really, name one black guy who hasn't required lifeguard assistance over all the seasons?

        Eating events-asians automatically first

        ...I don't know where I get this, but it just seems like asians eat a lot of food to me.

        Problem solving events-asians

        ...derrrr

        Ummm...I could go on about who'd would win in athletic events and such, but I'm told that's "racist," so I better not go there (besides, what I've said has already filled up my racist-meter for the day...more tomorrow).
        Last edited by WABronco; 08-23-2006, 04:53 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by WABronco
          Usually I don't care about this kinda stuff (race stuff), but this seems to be in very poor taste...to me. Whatever works I guess.
          I think it's a risky move, but I don't think it's poor taste.

          One thing I do know, if a white person wins, the show will be destroyed.

          Conspiracy theory's will run amuck.

          People have complained about the lack of diversity on the show.

          In fact, I have complained about it before in past Survivor threads.



          :paper:

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          • #6
            Originally posted by The Dark Knight
            One thing I do know, if a white person wins, the show will be destroyed.
            Ahahahahaha!

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            • #7
              Lets go asians! and white people!

              It sucks being a mutt.......

              Naw, but I saw this on the news. It could be interesting if the groups can overcome such things as race and set an example for us TV glued people.

              Most likely though, someone will shake the jar.

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              • #8
                Well, in the last installment they had Young Men vs Old Men vs Young Women vs Old Women.

                They were only together for a day but that day was long enough for the groups to form alliances. In the end, a young man (Aras) won Sole Survivor. Even though many thought an older man(Terry) deserved it more.

                This should be really interesting because I truely think the white people will have the biggest targets on their backs. They'll probably know this and they may form a strong voting block because of it. Now, if they form that really tight voting block, will people percieve that as racism?

                Probably.

                But it's not really. It's just playing the game. You vote with your alliance in the begining to make it to the end. The fact that they are the same race is circumstancial.

                However, I do think cultural pride will play a big part in this game. Some will put more weight into it that others.

                The bottom line is that all these races are playing for one color.

                $GREEN$


                :dance:

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                • #9
                  Anyone watching this Thursday?

                  Should be interesting.

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                  • #10
                    OK, tonights the night.


                    I won't be able to chime in tonight with muy usual announcement but I will as soon as I get back tommorrow.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Dark Knight
                      However, I do think cultural pride will play a big part in this game. Some will put more weight into it that others.
                      it was interesting that only the black and hispanic teams really queued in on that (i didn't watch too closely though). for the asians, i don't think cultural pride will play much of a part because they're cultures were so different - that is, koreans are a lot different than vietnamese. plus most of them were really american anyway. i doubt the whites will talk about cultural pride much either as they most likely anticipate any such talk from them will be taken as rascist.

                      all in all i was kinda bored with this episode. but that's probably just because everyone's personalities haven't come out yet.
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                      • #12
                        And the first person voted off is.......
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                        Sekou!


                        Well, it looks like he might have took the "leadership role" a little too early because apparently his tribe mates were more threatened by it than actually thinking it would be usefull. He didn't seem like much of a leader to me but just a guy that thinks he's a leader. :nono: Perhaps they felt the same way and voted him out.

                        And it looks like the chicken stealer hasn't made any friends with the other 3 tribes. Seems like he's got a target on his back already.

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                        • #13
                          white power












                          ...

                          i dont watch survivor but i will say that a female with large mammaries will win...


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                          • #14
                            And the next person voted off is.....
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                            Billy!

                            Well, the Aitu (Latin) tribe felt that big Billy wasn't pulling his weight so they thought it would be a good idea to throw the challenge and cut their losses.

                            I think that is a pretty risky strategy and they could end up paying for it in the end. As Probst just said, they maybe improved tribe work ethic but they sacraficed tribal trust to get it. Big risk in this game. They should have just played full strength and dumped him when and if they ever lost. It looks like they could have easily been competetive in the challenge if they actually tried.
                            I wish they would have kept Billy because I think that the girl he had a crush on was just messing with his head and that would have been good tv to watch.

                            And how bout Yul!! He found the hidden immunity idol already. I'll be real interested to see if he shares that information with any of his tribemates. I think there is a chance that he shares that information with Becky. He seems to have a bond with her. I was suprised that someone found the idol this early already. He could go a long way in this game. Especially since his tribe already appears to be fairly strong at the challeneges. But I'm still expecting a merge pretty soon so all that could change.


                            Anyway, this season looks pretty good so far. :thumb:

                            Can't wait till next week.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by The Dark Knight
                              And how bout Yul!! He found the hidden immunity idol already. I'll be real interested to see if he shares that information with any of his tribemates. I think there is a chance that he shares that information with Becky. He seems to have a bond with her. I was suprised that someone found the idol this early already. He could go a long way in this game. Especially since his tribe already appears to be fairly strong at the challeneges. But I'm still expecting a merge pretty soon so all that could change.


                              Anyway, this season looks pretty good so far. :thumb:

                              Can't wait till next week.
                              He's asian what did you expect

                              Honestly though all the stereo types have been in effect in this seasons Survivor.

                              Am I the only one that's noticing that?

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