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  • Bronco_Rob
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    Originally posted by GoBroncos84 View Post
    I don't believe this has an impact on our cap, as Lelie is not still being counted on that. Could be wrong, but I think its just a matter of the organization getting money back
    If Lelie pays us back that 660,000 it is counted as a cap credit for next season, thus giving us 660,000 more in cap space for next season. It's very similar to the Michael Vick thing except Vick is being gone after for millions not hundreds of thousands...

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  • Hoserman117
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    I kinda dislike Lelie for calling 660K 'petty money' Maybe in comparison to the billions of dollars the Broncos have as an organization, but still.

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  • eaglebronco
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    Originally posted by SM19
    This is good. There's no reason this organization should be handing out free money.
    Indeed Plus we need to keep our lawyers busy.

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  • antipas
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    Originally posted by Bronco_Rob View Post
    Lelie doesn't understand our side of it...that 600K means 600K more in our salary cap that we could spend on someone else.
    I don't think Lelie cares about our cap problems. But if a judge has ordered him to return some of that bonus money, it'll be just a matter of time. It may be a drop in the bucket comparitivly, but it's the principal of the matter.

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  • Ravage!!!
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    Originally posted by ROCKIES View Post
    That money has nothing to do with the salary cap; that's Bowlens money plain and simple! On a side note, I wonder if the ruling in this case will set a possible precedence for the Falcons when they attempt to recover millions of dollars of Vick's bonus money? :paper:
    It states that in the article.... so I'm guessing so.

    Its also the very thing that's causing the stalemate in Oakland. The Raiders are being sure to cover their butts by not dishing out any bonuses that would keep them from getting it back if he pulls something like this, or is kicked/suspended from the league. The player wants all the roster bonuses and won't budge on it.

    For the first time, I'm actually in Al Davis' corner. I'm glad he's making this stand.

    Another thing that Lelie has to understand... is that Multi-Billion dollar corporation, didn't become a muli-billion dollar corporation by overlooking over 1/2 MILLION dollars that is owed.

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  • ROCKIES
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    Originally posted by Bronco_Rob View Post
    Lelie doesn't understand our side of it...that 600K means 600K more in our salary cap that we could spend on someone else.
    That money has nothing to do with the salary cap; that's Bowlens money plain and simple! On a side note, I wonder if the ruling in this case will set a possible precedence for the Falcons when they attempt to recover millions of dollars of Vick's bonus money? :paper:

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  • imh
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    The Broncos have to do this i believe. If you sign a contract you have to honor it. It should send a message to all NFL players that you can't disregard your contract and still expect to get paid. Its more about the principle than the money.

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  • GoBroncos84
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    Originally posted by Bronco_Rob View Post
    Lelie doesn't understand our side of it...that 600K means 600K more in our salary cap that we could spend on someone else.
    I don't believe this has an impact on our cap, as Lelie is not still being counted on that. Could be wrong, but I think its just a matter of the organization getting money back

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  • Bronco_Rob
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    Lelie doesn't understand our side of it...that 600K means 600K more in our salary cap that we could spend on someone else.

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  • Broncos, seeking repayment of bonus money, sue WR Lelie

    Broncos, seeking repayment of bonus money, sue WR Lelie
    By Len Pasquarelli
    ESPN.com

    Updated: September 8, 2007, 4:30 PM ET


    Seeking to recover $660,000 in previously paid bonus money that was awarded them by an arbitrator in 2006, the Denver Broncos have filed a lawsuit against former first-round wide receiver Ashley Lelie.


    The suit, filed on Friday in U.S. District Court in Denver, was first reported by the Rocky Mountain News and confirmed by a team source. The source, however, would not further elaborate on the suit.

    According to the suit, Lelie, who now plays for the San Francisco 49ers, has neither challenged nor compiled with an arbitrator's ruling on the $660,000 awarded the club. The money represents a prorated share of the signing bonus the Broncos paid Lelie when they chose him in the first round of the 2002 draft.

    Lelie, 27, told the newspaper that he intends to repay the Broncos and that arrangements have begun to address the matter. Tax considerations, he said, had delayed the payment.

    "It just seems a little petty," Lelie said of the lawsuit. "They're definitely going to get their money & Obviously, it wasn't fast enough for them, that multibillion dollar company over there. They want their 600 grand, we'll give it to them.

    The Broncos filed an arbitration claim against Lelie in 2006 when he skipped all of the team's offseason workouts and training camp. He was subsequently dealt to Atlanta in a three-team trade that also included the Washington Redskins, and played for the Falcons in 2006. This spring, he signed a two-year, $4.3 million contract with San Francisco as an unrestricted free agent, a deal that included a $2 million signing bonus.

    An arbitrator subsequently ruled that Lelie did not have to pay nearly $400,000 in fines that he accumulated for missing mandatory minicamps and training camp, since Denver traded him. And in a separate ruling, an arbitrator said that Lelie did not owe the Broncos part of an option bonus he received as a component of his 2002 contract.

    The ruling on the option bonus was sealed by U.S. District Court Judge David Doty of Minneapolis, who has jurisdiction over the league's collective bargaining agreement with its players. That ruling has had far-reaching implications and could impact on the Falcon's attempts to recover $20 million of the $37 million in bonuses that suspended quarterback Michael Vick was paid as part of his 2004 contract extension.

    Lelie has 196 receptions for 3,437 yards and 13 touchdowns in 79 career appearances. The former University of Hawaii standout led the league in yards per catch in both 2004 (20.1 yards) and 2005 (18.3), but has mostly been regarded as a disappointing player. He scored a career-high seven touchdowns in 2004, but has just one touchdown catch in each of the past two seasons.

    Senior writer Len Pasquarelli covers the NFL for ESPN.com
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