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    http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=302275

    Shanahan The GM is Broncos' big problem

    Posted: November 9, 2007
    For years, coach Mike Shanahan's ability to avoid scrutiny for the Broncos' periodic poor performances has left league observers confused, bewildered and befuddled. Those days could be coming to an end.

    Shanahan finally is feeling a little heat with the team at 3-5, unable to win consistently at home and coming off an embarrassing 44-7 spanking last week at Detroit. The pressure is long overdue, but he's not close to being fired.



    In the spring of 1995, Shanahan was six years removed from being fired by the Raiders and was the offensive coordinator of a stellar 49ers team that blew out the Chargers in Super Bowl 29. Shanahan's name shot back to the top of the "A List," and he landed in Denver.
    The Broncos' turnaround was immediate. With a roster aided by multiple salary-cap violations, Shanahan led the Broncos to back-to-back Super Bowl victories in Years 3 and 4 in Denver, and, by all appearances, earned a lifetime employment contract with the team.

    In the eight seasons since he last held the Lombardi Trophy, the Broncos have made the playoffs as many times as they've missed them. During that quartet of postseason appearances, the Broncos lost their first game three times, losing by 18, 31 and 25 points. In 2005, the Broncos ended the Patriots' run of greatness before being drubbed by the Steelers in the AFC Championship Game.

    Shanahan The GM has made the job much more difficult for Shanahan The Coach. (Note: Ted Sundquist holds the "general manager" title but reports to Shanahan, who makes all personnel decisions.)

    Free agency, for example, has been a nightmare for Shanahan The GM. Defensive back Dale Carter, signed in 1999 while in the substance-abuse program, was suspended for a full year in 2000. Shanahan signed defensive tackle Daryl Gardener in 2003, giving him a big-money deal for which he never provided anything in return. Running back Travis Henry, who came to Denver one whiff of a doobie away from a one-year suspension, was Shanahan's prize offseason acquisition this year but has tested positive for marijuana and is awaiting an appeal hearing before a suspension kicks in.

    Henry isn't the only high-priced mistake made within the past year. Shanahan broke the bank for tight end Daniel Graham, who is averaging a whopping two catches per game and hasn't scored a touchdown. And then there was defensive end Simeon Rice, who was supposed to pump up the pass rush but has spent most of his time complaining about his lack of playing time.

    Shanahan The GM hasn't fared much better in the trade department. A second-round pick was sent to Green Bay for receiver Javon Walker, who was solid in '06 after tearing up his knee the prior year but now is having more trouble with the old injury. This year, cornerback Dre' Bly was obtained in exchange for two guys (running back Tatum Bell, offensive tackle George Foster) no longer in the team's plans, but Shanahan then paid too much money to lock up Bly beyond this season.

    And who can forget Shanahan The GM's effort to round up as many washed-up Browns' defensive linemen as possible?

    Then there's the draft. Shanahan The GM's high-profile mistakes include burning a first-round pick on wide receiver Marcus Nash in 1998, a first-rounder on cornerback Deltha O'Neal in 2000, a first-rounder on cornerback Willie Middlebrooks in 2001, a second-rounder on defensive end Paul Toviessi in 2001, a first-rounder on receiver Ashley Lelie in 2002, a first-rounder on Foster in 2003, a second-rounder on linebacker Terry Pierce in 2003, a second-rounder on receiver Darius Watts in 2004 and (drum roll, please) a third-rounder on running back Maurice Clarett in 2005.

    And perhaps Shanahan's biggest gaffe came last year. After the team had played in the AFC title game just months earlier, Shanahan The GM traded up to the No. 11-overall spot and select quarterback Jay Cutler, the heir to Jake Plummer. And then with Broncos at 7-4 and in position to make the playoffs last season, Shanahan The Coach benched Plummer and inserted the rookie Cutler. A 2-3 mark down the stretch slammed the door on postseason play.

    So, in this era of heightened accountability, how can Shanahan continue to escape scrutiny from above? Owner Pat Bowlen should be paying closer attention. Still, if it took eight years of mediocrity to get Bowlen to notice, how many more will it take to get him to care and make a change?

    For the sake of Broncos' fans, that number is hopefully less than eight.

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    Great, so the sporting news can regurgitate what has been discussed ad nauseum this year.
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    • #3
      Oh good LORD! Are you kidding me? I only read half of the article and didn't bother finishing. Daniel Graham is known as a blocking TE, so why expect him to be the next incarnation of Shannon Sharpe?

      As for the other "mistakes" in Carter, Gardner and Henry? I have no doubt that the contracts were structured in such a way as to minimize as much damage to the Broncos as possible while giving these players opportunity to get what they wanted (big $$$) read as incentive laden contracts. Shanahan is known to take a risk on a player with questionable character. I find it promising that each of those players (except Henry - to be seen, however) have departed quickly from the Broncos organization.

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      • #4
        That guy is a moron. I stopped reading when he started in on Jay.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gsam View Post
          That guy is a moron. I stopped reading when he started in on Jay.
          I'm with you there, especially when he implied that Plumber was the better option.

          He IS correct about Graham, Henry, Rice, and Bly.
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            Maurice Clarett haha

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TheGlue Factory View Post
              Oh good LORD! Are you kidding me? I only read half of the article and didn't bother finishing. Daniel Graham is known as a blocking TE, so why expect him to be the next incarnation of Shannon Sharpe?

              As for the other "mistakes" in Carter, Gardner and Henry? I have no doubt that the contracts were structured in such a way as to minimize as much damage to the Broncos as possible while giving these players opportunity to get what they wanted (big $$$) read as incentive laden contracts. Shanahan is known to take a risk on a player with questionable character. I find it promising that each of those players (except Henry - to be seen, however) have departed quickly from the Broncos organization.
              I think his point with Graham was that the Broncos paid millions for a tight end who can do nothing but block. And there were reports even at the time of the signing that Denver paid way too much money for him. Let's face it - the guy has been a wash so far.

              Second, there's simply no way to determine whether any of those signings had an impact on the salary cap or not, since such details are unavailable. But do you think those guys didn't have a detremental effect on the locker room?
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              • #8
                why are people slamming this artical? aside from when he brought the jake vs jay conversation he was pretty much spot on in his assement, and he even sort of has a point with the QB's, i love cutler as much as the next guy, but to MOVE up and take a QB 3 mos after u were in the AFC champ game and plummer had his best year as a pro, it was a kick in the nuts to plummer and he lost all confidence

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by halfback View Post
                  why are people slamming this artical? aside from when he brought the jake vs jay conversation he was pretty much spot on in his assement, and he even sort of has a point with the QB's, i love cutler as much as the next guy, but to MOVE up and take a QB 3 mos after u were in the AFC champ game and plummer had his best year as a pro, it was a kick in the nuts to plummer and he lost all confidence
                  Exactly.

                  There's nothing Earth-shattering or untrue in anything in the article. Why get all upset over it?
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                  • #10
                    If this guy was a Shanny apologist, you'd all be loving on him. Sure out of the dozens of facts that expose Shanny you point out a opinion that you disagree with.

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                    • #11
                      My God What a MORON! It sounds like this idiot has just been waiting for the Broncos to fail so he could unload a total re-hash of every mistake since 1999! Let's go through this list shall we and use logic instead of pin-headed *****iness as the criteria for evaluation:

                      Originally posted by Rds5532 View Post
                      Shanahan The GM is Broncos' big problem

                      Posted: November 9, 2007
                      For years, coach Mike Shanahan's ability to avoid scrutiny for the Broncos' periodic poor performances has left league observers confused, bewildered and befuddled. Those days could be coming to an end.

                      Shanahan finally is feeling a little heat with the team at 3-5, unable to win consistently at home and coming off an embarrassing 44-7 spanking last week at Detroit. The pressure is long overdue, but he's not close to being fired.
                      "League observers" -- translate idiot sportswriters in other cities who don't follow the Broncos and don't really know what's going on. After stating that "Shanahan finally is feeling a little heat" he goes on to admit he's not close to getting fired. So where is the "heat" coming from? Fans? Cretins at the Sporting News? I'd imagine he feels more pressure to win than any outside source is providing.

                      In the spring of 1995, Shanahan was six years removed from being fired by the Raiders and was the offensive coordinator of a stellar 49ers team that blew out the Chargers in Super Bowl 29. Shanahan's name shot back to the top of the "A List," and he landed in Denver.

                      The Broncos' turnaround was immediate. With a roster aided by multiple salary-cap violations, Shanahan led the Broncos to back-to-back Super Bowl victories in Years 3 and 4 in Denver, and, by all appearances, earned a lifetime employment contract with the team.
                      Ooh! It was all due to "cheating." How else could a team full of Hall of Famers and Pro-Bowl players like John Elway, Shannon Sharpe, Terrell Davis, Rod Smith and Gary Zimmerman possibly win a SB? Just a pointless cheap shot.

                      In the eight seasons since he last held the Lombardi Trophy, the Broncos have made the playoffs as many times as they've missed them. During that quartet of postseason appearances, the Broncos lost their first game three times, losing by 18, 31 and 25 points. In 2005, the Broncos ended the Patriots' run of greatness before being drubbed by the Steelers in the AFC Championship Game.
                      So, the Broncos were in the AFC Championship as recently as 2005, but imbecile here had to quickly get that out of the way so he could return to the Shanahan bashing:

                      Shanahan The GM has made the job much more difficult for Shanahan The Coach. (Note: Ted Sundquist holds the "general manager" title but reports to Shanahan, who makes all personnel decisions.)

                      Free agency, for example, has been a nightmare for Shanahan The GM. Defensive back Dale Carter, signed in 1999 while in the substance-abuse program, was suspended for a full year in 2000. Shanahan signed defensive tackle Daryl Gardener in 2003, giving him a big-money deal for which he never provided anything in return. Running back Travis Henry, who came to Denver one whiff of a doobie away from a one-year suspension, was Shanahan's prize offseason acquisition this year but has tested positive for marijuana and is awaiting an appeal hearing before a suspension kicks in.
                      If you have to go all the way back to Dale Carter to support your criticism, you're already failing before you start. All this idiot griping ignores what he wrote just two paragraphs above: that the 2005 Broncos won 14 games and went to the AFC Championship Game that season. So, obviously, despite all the previous problems with "personnel" Shanahan must have been doing something right.

                      Henry isn't the only high-priced mistake made within the past year. Shanahan broke the bank for tight end Daniel Graham, who is averaging a whopping two catches per game and hasn't scored a touchdown.
                      Here's the real proof this downs-syndrome victim has paid no attention to the Broncos. Graham is the best blocking TE in the league. The reason he hasn't caught more passes is that the Broncos OL has been in such flux that they can't send him out to catch passes often. They desperately need Graham in to protect Cutler from being killed. And the OL is suffering because they lost pro-bowl center Tom Nalen and starting G Ben Hamilton and had to juggle the other players around and use very inexperienced players and guys playing out of position. The OL continuity has been terrible and the Broncos offense has suffered. That's hardly an indication that Graham has failed. He's doing exactly what they asked of him!

                      And then there was defensive end Simeon Rice, who was supposed to pump up the pass rush but has spent most of his time complaining about his lack of playing time.
                      You'd never know from this pointless imbecility that Simeon Rice was one of the best pass-rushers in NFL history. Shanahan took him on the hope that he'd recovered enough from his injury to play well. It didn't work out. Well, so what? He's negotiating his release, it didn't cost any players or draft picks to acquire him and it's not costing all that much to let him go either. Too bad it didn't work out, but hardly a reason to criticize Shanahan.

                      Shanahan The GM hasn't fared much better in the trade department. A second-round pick was sent to Green Bay for receiver Javon Walker, who was solid in '06 after tearing up his knee the prior year but now is having more trouble with the old injury.
                      This idiot doesn't know any more than the rest of the league whether Javon's injury is more of the same thing. He just admitted that Javon was a good move for 2006 and there's no reason to think he can't come back from his current injury. If he's injured long-term then trading a high #2nd round pick for him will (in retrospect) not have been a good trade. If he comes back from injury, then it was a brilliant trade. There's no way to use that to criticize Shanahan now.

                      This year, cornerback Dre' Bly was obtained in exchange for two guys (running back Tatum Bell, offensive tackle George Foster) no longer in the team's plans, but Shanahan then paid too much money to lock up Bly beyond this season.
                      No mention of the fact that Bly was a pro-bowl CB who is having a good year, or that the Broncos were in need of a new starting CB since Darrent Williams was killed. Why is Bly paid "too much money?" He is being paid a starting CB's salary and so far he's earned his money. This criticism doesn't even make any sense and I can't see why he's knocking Bly.

                      And who can forget Shanahan The GM's effort to round up as many washed-up Browns' defensive linemen as possible?
                      Once again. Shows he doesn't know what's going on around here. Those "washed up" Browns DL helped the Broncos to the AFC Championship in 2005. Shanahan was faced with having to re-build both his defensive secondary AND his DL at the same time. He took some chances with the Browncos who turned out (excepting Ekuban) to be short-term rentals. It worked for a season, then Courtney Brown retired due to injury and Kenard Lang didn't work out. It bought Shanahan at least 2 seasons to address his other needs at CB (Darrent Williams, Foxworth, Paymah) and on offense (Cutler, Sheffler, Brandon Marshall).

                      This year he's added three promising DL (Moss, Crowder, Thomas).

                      Then there's the draft. Shanahan The GM's high-profile mistakes include burning a first-round pick on wide receiver Marcus Nash in 1998, a first-rounder on cornerback Deltha O'Neal in 2000, a first-rounder on cornerback Willie Middlebrooks in 2001, a second-rounder on defensive end Paul Toviessi in 2001, a first-rounder on receiver Ashley Lelie in 2002, a first-rounder on Foster in 2003, a second-rounder on linebacker Terry Pierce in 2003, a second-rounder on receiver Darius Watts in 2004 and (drum roll, please) a third-rounder on running back Maurice Clarett in 2005.
                      Notice that none of these mistakes is later than 2004 (a compensatory pick at the very end of the 3rd round for Clarett is hardly a huge mistake). Idiots love to criticize Shanahan for Clarett because he was famous due to his law-suits. How many late third round compensatory picks don't work out for other teams without this fool commenting on them?

                      And perhaps Shanahan's biggest gaffe came last year. After the team had played in the AFC title game just months earlier, Shanahan The GM traded up to the No. 11-overall spot and select quarterback Jay Cutler, the heir to Jake Plummer. And then with Broncos at 7-4 and in position to make the playoffs last season, Shanahan The Coach benched Plummer and inserted the rookie Cutler. A 2-3 mark down the stretch slammed the door on postseason play.
                      Here the fool culminates: "He should have kept Jake!"

                      How many times have we heard that sad stupidity? Obviously Jay is a vastly better QB even now than Jake. It was also clear that with the offense under Jake scoring 17 points a game the Broncos weren't going anywhere. Under Jay, the offensive scoring picked up some, but the defense fell apart in the later part of the season and the team lost. It wasn't Jay's fault that the defense couldn't hold big leads against teams like the Chargers and 49ers. But don't expect this dullard to understand or point that out!
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                      • #12
                        Response to Imbecility Continued!

                        So, in this era of heightened accountability, how can Shanahan continue to escape scrutiny from above? Owner Pat Bowlen should be paying closer attention. Still, if it took eight years of mediocrity to get Bowlen to notice, how many more will it take to get him to care and make a change?

                        For the sake of Broncos' fans, that number is hopefully less than eight.
                        Somebody should hold this idiot under water. All that drama and pointless criticism and all he can conclude is that Bowlen "should be paying closer attention" as if he doesn't know what's going on? He just goes to all the games and has intimate knowledge of what's happening in the locker room, practice field and executive suites. This is his business and it's worth $800 million. You better believe he knows what's going on!

                        Obviously, if the Broncos sucked for 8 more years Bowlen would have hired and fired several more coaches by then. So, this comment is an especially pointless way to sum up one of the stupidest articles I've ever read about the Broncos!
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                        • #13
                          You guy's this is Mike Florio of ProFootballTalk.com, he's been at this Shanahan bashing for years....this is nothing new other than the fact that he's got a real job now.

                          Even with his distaste for Shanahan (Something he doesn't deny), I read Florios blog everyday....He's one of my favorites.

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                          • #14
                            I've gotta say that I generally agree with the article. I have a ton of respect for Shanny as a coach; I think that, on the whole, he does an excellent job preparing the team to play and I think he is a better-than-average game manager. But Shanahan wearing the GM hat has made a huge number of really bad decisions,and now the team (and us poor fans!) is suffering for it. Shanahan has not shown a good eye for talent (or even character) through the draft or free agency. Where I disagree with the article is in trades--I actually think that most of the trades the Broncos have made in the past few years have been good. But trades are only one type of personnel move--being good at trades and nothing else is like a team being great at special teams but sucking on offense and defense... in other words, Shanny the GM is like this year's Chicago Bears!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by stnzed View Post
                              You guy's this is Mike Florio of ProFootballTalk.com, he's been at this Shanahan bashing for years....this is nothing new other than the fact that he's got a real job now.

                              Even with his distaste for Shanahan (Something he doesn't deny), I read Florios blog everyday....He's one of my favorites.
                              The article hit the nail on the head, when is pb going to wake up and make changes to turn this around ?

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