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    ...to a certain degree.

    I've been fairly vocal about the idea that the Broncos pretty much had to at least take a look at Al Wilson because I believe (and still do) that he can be a special, dominant player once again, and his leadership/intelligence is irreplaceable.

    However, I was listening to the radio this morning, and Mike Evans and Sandy Clough brought up a very good point that I don't think was addressed (at least adequately) on the various other threads regarding the situation. The fact is, Al Wilson even if he can be a special player once again, it's going to take time for him to get back into the flow of things, and that expectations for him will be so high in Denver, that he'll become a victim of his prior success, and that coming back to a defense that was so awful last year, the expectations will be that Al Wilson will fix it, and those are unfair expectations to have on a player who's been out for a year and is coming off a serious injury. It's also unfair to Shanahan because, if he signs Al and he doesn't work out or he gets injured again, it'll just reinforce the criticisim that he's received regarding his bad free agent signings.

    The Sports Guys stated - and I agree - that the best situaiton for Al would be to wind up on a team that is already successful or a bad team that will pay him more money and where expectations will be minimal.

    I still maintain, however, that it would still be wise for the Broncos to, at the very least, call his agent and get as much of a feel fro him as possible. I mean, if he really can help this team in whatever role, then even with all that above, you have to go in whatever direction that will help this team get better. But I think it's unrealistic to expect this to work logisitcally, and I probably got too caught up in the emotion of hearing that Al is cleared to play (but shame on those fans who have been dogging him, calling him washed up, has-been, injury prone, etc. - the man gave his heart and soul to this team every year he played, and was the ultimate team player).

    I also maintain that I'm still not sold on DJ in the middle, and for all the strong proponents who claim it is a natural fit and that he was so fantastic there this past season, I defer you to Mike Shanahan's statements yesterday, in which it was clear that even he is not sure whether or not DJ can work in the middle long-term, and didn't really give him a vote of confidence that he'll be in that position next season. Basically, Denver will look into upgrading that position through the draft or free agency, and if they can't, then DJ will pretty much be there by default. Hopefully it works out, but I'm telling you all that it takes much more than athleticism and talent to be a quality MLB in the NFL.

    Trust me - I do know a thing or two.
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    Originally posted by mojo0730 View Post
    ...to a certain degree.

    I've been fairly vocal about the idea that the Broncos pretty much had to at least take a look at Al Wilson because I believe (and still do) that he can be a special, dominant player once again, and his leadership/intelligence is irreplaceable.

    However, I was listening to the radio this morning, and Mike Evans and Sandy Clough brought up a very good point that I don't think was addressed (at least adequately) on the various other threads regarding the situation. The fact is, Al Wilson even if he can be a special player once again, it's going to take time for him to get back into the flow of things, and that expectations for him will be so high in Denver, that he'll become a victim of his prior success, and that coming back to a defense that was so awful last year, the expectations will be that Al Wilson will fix it, and those are unfair expectations to have on a player who's been out for a year and is coming off a serious injury. It's also unfair to Shanahan because, if he signs Al and he doesn't work out or he gets injured again, it'll just reinforce the criticisim that he's received regarding his bad free agent signings.

    The Sports Guys stated - and I agree - that the best situaiton for Al would be to wind up on a team that is already successful or a bad team that will pay him more money and where expectations will be minimal.
    I actually never thought of that but it does make perfect sense! Just look at these boards so far! People are already seeing him as our savior! I would definitely hate for Wilson to come back only to feel the wrath of thousands of angry fans if he doesn't reach expectations.

    Originally posted by mojo0730 View Post
    I also maintain that I'm still not sold on DJ in the middle, and for all the strong proponents who claim it is a natural fit and that he was so fantastic there this past season, I defer you to Mike Shanahan's statements yesterday, in which it was clear that even he is not sure whether or not DJ can work in the middle long-term, and didn't really give him a vote of confidence that he'll be in that position next season. Basically, Denver will look into upgrading that position through the draft or free agency, and if they can't, then DJ will pretty much be there by default. Hopefully it works out, but I'm telling you all that it takes much more than athleticism and talent to be a quality MLB in the NFL.
    I'm not entirely sold on the idea of him being a MLB either but I'm getting sick of the Broncos continually changing his position. If he stays at MLB, he may very well turn out to be a stud at that position. If not, well we've seen what he can do elsewhere.

    Thanks for the "food for thought" Mojo!

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    • #3
      http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=109753
      I agree...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by JerseyAdam View Post
        why would you want javon i mean vilma?
        The fool who fancies he is full of wisdom
        While he sits by his hearth at home.
        Quickly finds when questioned by others .
        That he knows nothing at all.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mojo0730 View Post
          ...to a certain degree.

          I've been fairly vocal about the idea that the Broncos pretty much had to at least take a look at Al Wilson because I believe (and still do) that he can be a special, dominant player once again, and his leadership/intelligence is irreplaceable.

          However, I was listening to the radio this morning, and Mike Evans and Sandy Clough brought up a very good point that I don't think was addressed (at least adequately) on the various other threads regarding the situation. The fact is, Al Wilson even if he can be a special player once again, it's going to take time for him to get back into the flow of things, and that expectations for him will be so high in Denver, that he'll become a victim of his prior success, and that coming back to a defense that was so awful last year, the expectations will be that Al Wilson will fix it, and those are unfair expectations to have on a player who's been out for a year and is coming off a serious injury. It's also unfair to Shanahan because, if he signs Al and he doesn't work out or he gets injured again, it'll just reinforce the criticisim that he's received regarding his bad free agent signings.

          The Sports Guys stated - and I agree - that the best situaiton for Al would be to wind up on a team that is already successful or a bad team that will pay him more money and where expectations will be minimal.

          I still maintain, however, that it would still be wise for the Broncos to, at the very least, call his agent and get as much of a feel fro him as possible. I mean, if he really can help this team in whatever role, then even with all that above, you have to go in whatever direction that will help this team get better. But I think it's unrealistic to expect this to work logisitcally, and I probably got too caught up in the emotion of hearing that Al is cleared to play (but shame on those fans who have been dogging him, calling him washed up, has-been, injury prone, etc. - the man gave his heart and soul to this team every year he played, and was the ultimate team player).

          I also maintain that I'm still not sold on DJ in the middle, and for all the strong proponents who claim it is a natural fit and that he was so fantastic there this past season, I defer you to Mike Shanahan's statements yesterday, in which it was clear that even he is not sure whether or not DJ can work in the middle long-term, and didn't really give him a vote of confidence that he'll be in that position next season. Basically, Denver will look into upgrading that position through the draft or free agency, and if they can't, then DJ will pretty much be there by default. Hopefully it works out, but I'm telling you all that it takes much more than athleticism and talent to be a quality MLB in the NFL.

          Trust me - I do know a thing or two.
          Im not sold on your post but I do agree that expectations will be huge in Denver if he comes back here. Of course it will take some time to get back into the flow of things but he is a pro and a year off may have done him more good then bad. People who think that Al can instantly come and and solve all the problems on D are just plain ignorant when it comes to football. How this defense played this last year, we are going to need more then just one player to fix Bates's disaster he created.

          Now look in the long run, even if you take a Al at 80% and Dj on the field at the same time we are much better off then this past year.(Just imagine the teams moral with Al back on the field feeding off the fans during home games) Everyone only remembers how physical Al was but forgets he was one of the best at reading the D. His leader ship will help line up the DL to help stop that run.

          I do agree 100% that its very important that Al shows up at camp in a Denver uniform and given a fair chancce to show he still has it. Anything less after the season the broncos had on the field this year will kill the city of Denver.

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          • #6
            More on Al Wilson...

            http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...roncos-report/
            Broncos report
            By Lee Rasizer, Rocky Mountain News
            Friday, January 11, 2008

            On the mend

            The news former Broncos linebacker Al Wilson has been cleared to resume playing football by specialist Robert Watkins after a neck injury nearly derailed Wilson's NFL career apparently has been greeted warmly.

            Agent Peter Schaffer says he already has fielded some calls from teams about Wilson's status.

            "I've been pleasantly surprised," he said.

            Wilson was released by the Broncos in the spring after a failed medical exam aborted a potential trade to the New York Giants.

            That backdrop seemingly would make it difficult for a local reunion, but if Wilson is healthy, he could bring veteran savvy to some team's defense, provided he holds up physically.

            Wilson had been getting periodic positive updates on his condition during the past several months but didn't pass his physical until Wednesday.

            "I think he always felt he had more football in him and wanted that challenge," Schaffer said of Wilson. "But Al would never do it if any doctor said his neck was at risk of catastrophic injury."
            Al Wilson is a good player. Since he is all healed up now, teams will want him. Already, this article indicates that there is teams out there that are going to take a good look at him. I just hope that the broncos are one of those teams that want him.

            Any thoughts?

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            • #7
              I was thinking of the same thing. I hope Broncos are one of the teams have him on demand. Personally we need to bump out Webster and punch in wilson.

              Most likely i dont see this happenig. Unless hes willing to come back to his home team.

              “If you're not improving . . . chances are you're not going to win.” - Mike Shanahan

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              • #8
                I would love to have Wilson back but it boils down to one thing....

                MONEY

                I don't think we would bring him back if he wanted to much of it....
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JerseyAdam View Post
                  why would you want javon i mean vilma?

                  If that's the case...you forgot to add Wilson to your list. Just calling it like I see it.

                  I'm not going to derail this thread so if you wanna take it up, go to the thread I posted before.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by . i n t e l View Post



                    I'm not entirely sold on the idea of him being a MLB either but I'm getting sick of the Broncos continually changing his position. If he stays at MLB, he may very well turn out to be a stud at that position. If not, well we've seen what he can do elsewhere
                    Sucks, because I believe if Denver does move him again, he will leave when his contract is up.

                    He's an athlete and a businessman at the same time, and the constant uncertainty of what Denver's plans for him have to be driving him crazy.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by silkamilkamonic View Post
                      Sucks, because I believe if Denver does move him again, he will leave when his contract is up.

                      He's an athlete and a businessman at the same time, and the constant uncertainty of what Denver's plans for him have to be driving him crazy.
                      If he is moved to SLB I'm absolutely sure he would leave after his contract expires. He's been quoted as saying he doesn't care one way or another whether he's the MLB or WLB in our scheme. That was after he had already been moved to MLB, so he was already weighing in having to do another move. It doesn't appear he would mind.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Maharishineo View Post
                        If he is moved to SLB I'm absolutely sure he would leave after his contract expires. He's been quoted as saying he doesn't care one way or another whether he's the MLB or WLB in our scheme. That was after he had already been moved to MLB, so he was already weighing in having to do another move. It doesn't appear he would mind.
                        I think he's saying it in context about him finishing out his contract.

                        I'm sure he's saying in his mind, "you guys have moved me 4 times in 5 years. Apparently you don't know what the he!! you're doing..."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by silkamilkamonic View Post
                          I think he's saying it in context about him finishing out his contract.

                          I'm sure he's saying in his mind, "you guys have moved me 4 times in 5 years. Apparently you don't know what the he!! you're doing..."
                          The sad thing is, the Broncos don't know what they're doing with DJ.

                          He only moved to MLB because Bates was convinced it would work. As talented as he is, I think he's beter suited for the weakside.

                          However, I doubt he'll return if he's moved again, either, which has to be another issue factoring into Shanahan's decision.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mojo0730 View Post
                            Trust me - I do know a thing or two.
                            Thats debatable for sure!! Whats your backround on evaluating LBs? Where did you coach? Where did you play? Who did you scout for??


                            Sorry mojo..... but after reading your entire post, this comment of yours just stuck out like a SORE thumb. Trust you? I just found it funny.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ravage!!! View Post
                              Thats debatable for sure!! Whats your backround on evaluating LBs? Where did you coach? Where did you play? Who did you scout for??


                              Sorry mojo..... but after reading your entire post, this comment of yours just stuck out like a SORE thumb. Trust you? I just found it funny.
                              Wow...a post in which I concede that I may have jumped the gun on the whole Al Wilson debate, show some humility, and admit a mistake, and you still have to be insulting.

                              I'll just say that my experience for evaluating LBs is probably as keen and equitable to yours.
                              Last edited by mojo0730; 01-11-2008, 10:41 AM.
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