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  • Moss Must be Improving Against the Run

    In addition to his tipped pass, Moss followed Marcus Thomas’ lead from a few days ago and blew up two plays in a row. First he tackled Anthony Alridge at the line, then followed that up with a big hit on Ryan Torain in the backfield.

    http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denver...am-blog-day-6/
    Giving up 2-3 yards isn't a bad stop against the run, so to stop a big powerful guy like Torain in the backfield should take notice.

    Go Jarvis!

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    Originally posted by mx_stiles13 View Post
    Giving up 2-3 yards isn't a bad stop against the run, so to stop a big powerful guy like Torain in the backfield should take notice.

    Go Jarvis!
    Not to be negative but ANYBODY can make a good play now and then. He needs to do it consistently to say he's improved against the run.

    But I'm optimistic he'll be improved thanks to a little extra bulk and upgrading his technique for a year. We'll see...
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    • #3
      If you remember.....

      Last season, Coah Shannahan made the comment that Moss was better against the run than they expected. His strength was his pass rush, but he was better than expected against the run for his lack of muscle and low weight. Now that he has added muscle and weight, he might be a better all-around DE and stand up to the NFL rigors much better.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Javalon View Post
        Not to be negative but ANYBODY can make a good play now and then. He needs to do it consistently to say he's improved against the run.

        But I'm optimistic he'll be improved thanks to a little extra bulk and upgrading his technique for a year. We'll see...
        He did it twice in a row! Weren't you reading He's actually sized down a bit from last season, but his technique has definitely improved over last season.
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        • #5
          He needs to do it in an actual game.

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          • #6
            Lets be honest....who cares about a DE making tackles on RB's...Just as long as he holds his assignment and set up the LB's. We drafted him to rush the passer..... A DE that is good agianst the run is never as important as a DE that gets to the QB
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            • #7
              Originally posted by japfaff View Post
              Lets be honest....who cares about a DE making tackles on RB's...Just as long as he holds his assignment and set up the LB's. We drafted him to rush the passer..... A DE that is good agianst the run is never as important as a DE that gets to the QB

              wow what the heck are you talking about. we suffered mightily agaisnt the run last year at the DE spot, elvis isnt the best run stopper and ekuban was injured, englberger was the only saving grace we had. while its awsome to get to the qb, if you cant hold your own in the run game at DE, then you shouldnt be playing every down....moss has proven he can get in the backfield and get the rb in the run game and the qb in the pass game, thats a key ingriedent to D-line improvement.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by japfaff View Post
                Lets be honest....who cares about a DE making tackles on RB's...Just as long as he holds his assignment and set up the LB's. We drafted him to rush the passer..... A DE that is good agianst the run is never as important as a DE that gets to the QB
                how bout one that can tackle AND pass rush?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Goatmaster View Post
                  how bout one that can tackle AND pass rush?
                  Yeah, the whole package. I think Moss has the tools to be just that and if he works very hard I think its very possible by the end of the 08-09 season that he's a top 5 Defensive End in the whole NFL.
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                  • #10
                    Hopefully we can tackle this upcoming season. :brick:

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                    • #11
                      I hope Moss ends up decent against the run. It's not ideal spending a first rounder on a one dimensional end.
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                      • #12
                        my question is does he Play 1st team and if so will it be LDE or RdE
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Broncosinindy View Post
                          my question is does he Play 1st team and if so will it be LDE or RdE
                          not right now so far englberger and dumervil are locked in 1st team with englberger coming out on some passing downs. they are rotating though so crowder and moss will still see good action next year and it wil keep them fresh. either moss or crowder could overtake englberger if they keep up the work in camp, but dumervil looks continually more impressive against the run, and seems to be the full time guy for good at his spot now..... but its still early as well and anything can happen....

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Broncosinindy View Post
                            my question is does he Play 1st team and if so will it be LDE or RdE
                            He is playing some first-team, especially in nickel and this new formation that Denver has been doing.

                            Keep in mind that the Broncos have used a 7-9 man rotation on the defensive line, so there are starters, but everyone's going to get in. Moss has gone up against Ryan Harris (playing as a Left side Defensive End) and he has also gone against Ryan Clady (playing as a Right Defensive End). During those nickel formation, with what I assume is who the Broncos want to be their first-team- Elvis Dumervil mans the left side and Moss gets the right side.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by japfaff View Post
                              Lets be honest....who cares about a DE making tackles on RB's...Just as long as he holds his assignment and set up the LB's. We drafted him to rush the passer..... A DE that is good agianst the run is never as important as a DE that gets to the QB
                              You just lost all of your credibility right there. Elvis would be one of the top 10 DE's in the NFL if what you say is true.
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