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  • #16
    Originally posted by mx_stiles13 View Post
    Larsen wasn't that bad in coverage. He messed up on the dropped pass but he is a rookie, he will make those kind of mistakes. Anyways, right after the drop he came right back to dive infront of a receiver to deflect the pass.
    Perhaps it was a lil harsh, but he wasn't good. If we only consider the one or two obvious plays when he was beat in coverage then it isn't so bad, but there were at least five more plays were he was burnt on crossing patterns by TE's & RB's where his position was good but his speed was lacking. The recievers just pulled away from him and found holes. He is a rookie and most of this should be fixed with time, but that is the reason he should be put on the PS, because he can develope but teams won't take him because he is still raw.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by JaysusCutler View Post
      That's dumb, he applied pressure to the QB like had always been and pressured him right into Woodyard, the QB pretty much had a choice between being sacked by Larsen head on or by Woodyard.
      No, I'm talking about the play where the running back got through the line, and Larsen missed his tackle, but Woodyard (i believe) forced the fumble right after him.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Zanders76 View Post
        Perhaps it was a lil harsh, but he wasn't good. If we only consider the one or two obvious plays when he was beat in coverage then it isn't so bad, but there were at least five more plays were he was burnt on crossing patterns by TE's & RB's where his position was good but his speed was lacking. The recievers just pulled away from him and found holes. He is a rookie and most of this should be fixed with time, but that is the reason he should be put on the PS, because he can develope but teams won't take him because he is still raw.
        He would develop faster as the #2 MLB. No one is saying to start him right away.

        Let me ask you this. Can you name three great plays Niko has made this preseason?

        Webster?

        R Ayers - B Cofield - A Haynesworth - CJ ohnson
        J Anderson - J Beason - DJ Williams
        R Bailey - P Amukamara - R Hill - A Goodman

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        • #19
          Originally posted by mx_stiles13 View Post
          Last night proved that he has the fire and enthusiasm you want in the middle of the defense. His knock coming out of Arizona was that he lacked speed to be an all-around playmaker (aka in coverage), but he definately has another gear during the game.

          What are the chances of him making the team?

          I can definately see #46 stealing the spot from Webster in mid-season.
          I've gotta say...Larsen really switched my train of thought...I thought he would be the only draft pick to be thrown on the practice squad.

          Remember Niko is right behind Webster, so if Webster goes down to an injury or stinks, Niko gets dibs on starting MLB


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          • #20
            Originally posted by Cutler2007 View Post
            He would develop faster as the #2 MLB. No one is saying to start him right away.

            Let me ask you this. Can you name three great plays Niko has made this preseason?

            Webster?

            That's not a fair question.. You know neither of them play great. Good call however, on both. Although, Niko did recover a fumble that someone else caused, still far from great.
            I think Larson should be second string by next season (assuming we don't draft another MLB) if for no other reason than his play compared to Niko's. But I don't feel comfortable having him one play away from starting.

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            • #21
              wow spencer has 1 good game against 3rd string o and we are ready to call him the starter???? no way, lets face it against better competition he has alot to learn.......


              perhaps next year he will be able to challeneg but right now not a chance would i want him starting depsite hios play last night.


              all his play did last night was give him a betetr chance to make the 53 and play special teams

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              • #22
                Originally posted by sdinner10 View Post
                No, I'm talking about the play where the running back got through the line, and Larsen missed his tackle, but Woodyard (i believe) forced the fumble right after him.
                Oh. Nebbah Mind.
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                • #23
                  He obviously had some good plays but a lot of you (not all) are forgetting, or didn't notice, his bad plays. I'm not sure if he was lacking physically or if it was lack of experience or both but he did get schooled on several occasions.

                  I like the kid but I think he might be destined for the practice squad.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Javalon View Post
                    He obviously had some good plays but a lot of you (not all) are forgetting, or didn't notice, his bad plays. I'm not sure if he was lacking physically or if it was lack of experience or both but he did get schooled on several occasions.

                    I like the kid but I think he might be destined for the practice squad.

                    people are failing to do that with josh barret also

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                    • #25
                      Wow you guys are a tough sell!

                      Here is what I saw. First the missed tackle and fumble caused by Woodward AND Spencer. Spencer missed him 1 or 2 yards in the backfield but the back made what appeared(till he fumbled) to be a great move and got away but was still in a VERY awkward position when he was hit by Woodward 2 or 3 yards downfield. Second the QB sack was Spencer flushed him and Woodward finished him,from what I saw.

                      In 3 quarters of play Dallas and AZ, Spencer was all over and involved in MANY plays. Like someone else pointed out MORE THAN some of the players ahead of him on the depth chart. Yeah it's 2nd and 3rd teamers but last I checked those are pretty good football players and he has the same on his side of the ball. I thought his coverage was pretty good overall and his field speed and quickness is showing up(he's always around the ball). I'd say he was around a 4.5 forty(in pads) on his return.

                      I also noticed the coaches on the sidelines(I sitting on the 50 behind our bench) coaching him up(good sign) after every sieres. He started on 2 or 3 special teams. He was calling the plays in the huddle and changing them based on the offence which is pretty good for a rookie who has learned 2 positions and missed part of camp!

                      If the other backers don't play well(and they haven't so far) or get hurt lookout........
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                      • #26
                        I'm freakin sick and tired off all the rookie hype people bring up. The only rookies to be hyped about are Royal and Torain because they are skill position players. The rest of them...forget them they aren't going to be Super Stars, at least not this year. Larsen WILL NOT start this season due to the simple fact that Websters starting, and if Webster goes down, Koutouvides will start. If Koutouvides goes down, we could see DJ Williams go back to MLB for a few games and Woodyard starting at WLB....Larsen will not start at all this season


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                        • #27
                          It doesn't seem so much as hype as it is evaluating the players potential given the limited exposure we have been given. That's what happens when cuts are made, people evaluate and discuss their opinions on the abilities of players compared to their positional counterparts. IOW.. it's not that big of a deal.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by getlynched47 View Post
                            I'm freakin sick and tired off all the rookie hype people bring up. The only rookies to be hyped about are Royal and Torain because they are skill position players. The rest of them...forget them they aren't going to be Super Stars, at least not this year. Larsen WILL NOT start this season due to the simple fact that Websters starting, and if Webster goes down, Koutouvides will start. If Koutouvides goes down, we could see DJ Williams go back to MLB for a few games and Woodyard starting at WLB....Larsen will not start at all this season

                            Only the skill players/Super Stars matter??????? Last I checked having great players at all positions is good and they are vital to TEAM play? maybe I'm missing something here!?

                            You sound just like some Bears fans when I posted over there about Lance Briggs 5 years ago. I'll put my money on Spencer the same as Lance!



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                            • #29
                              I would have to say that Larsen outplayed Niko and Webster in the preseason. More tackles, 1 fewer solo, more interceptions (1), more QB pressures, and more special teams plays. Yes he was going against lower players but in the last game it was 2nd team broncos with Larsen going against 1st team Cards defense. He played fairly well. I don't think he will start this year either but with an injury or 2 he very well might. Next year is a definite possibility with the playbook learned, 1 year of experience playing and working out behind him.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
                                I would have to say that Larsen outplayed Niko and Webster in the preseason. More tackles, 1 fewer solo, more interceptions (1), more QB pressures, and more special teams plays. Yes he was going against lower players but in the last game it was 2nd team broncos with Larsen going against 1st team Cards defense. He played fairly well. I don't think he will start this year either but with an injury or 2 he very well might. Next year is a definite possibility with the playbook learned, 1 year of experience playing and working out behind him.
                                That's what you think...but it's not true...obviously if it was true he would be starting...

                                Also, Larsen didn't go against the 1st teamer Cardinals...Niko Koutouvides did...


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