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  • #46
    Originally posted by pipes View Post
    Al Davis better be careful on Monday night!!

    Cutler has a helluva lot better arm than Grbac, and is more accurate!
    That could kill...
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    • #47
      New to the Bronco base, can someone give me a quick summary on where Shanahans detest of Al derives. I can see the genuine hate in his eyes.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by SLVR and Black View Post
        I've heard everything from a few thousand to a few million. Knowing a bit about how Davis pays his coaches, I have a really hard time believing that, if anything at all, it's in the 7 figure range.
        Anyone who coaches for the krypt keeper can be assured of getting screwed over! It's only money; you don't live forever. Everyone who has coached for the ol'e bag of boneshas been screwed in one way or another!
        Haze gray and underway!

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        • #49
          Originally posted by WildHorse View Post
          Here's the story from sports illustrated vault.

          http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.c...34/2/index.htm

          "Advantage, Shanahan

          Mike Shanahan has won more regular-season games than any NFL coach over the past two seasons, but one battle he feels he'll never win is a financial dispute with his former boss, Raiders owner Al Davis . That's why Shanahan , coach of the 9-2 Broncos , has given up trying to collect the $250,000 he says Davis owes him under the contract Shanahan signed to become the Raiders ' coach in 1988. Though the league has ruled in his favor, Shanahan this week will ask that Davis instead donate the money—plus interest—to the Oakland Unified School District. "It's a lot of money, but I'd rather see it go to the schoolchildren of Oakland ," Shanahan says. "It's time to move on."

          The $250,000 is what Shanahan says he was due when Davis fired him four games into the '89 season. According to Shanahan , Davis told him the money would be forthcoming—unless Shanahan took a job with the Broncos , for whom he had worked as an assistant before being hired by Davis . When Shanahan objected, he says Davis told him, "If I don't want to pay you, it'll cost you more money going through the court system than the money you'll get from the contract."

          Each side presented its case at an arbitration hearing conducted by the NFL in Los Angeles in 1990, and the league ruled in Shanahan 's favor. Davis appealed, and last week the league said it was still awaiting a reply from Shanahan 's lawyers.

          "This is a new twist, and it's as ridiculous as all the others," Raiders chief executive Amy Trask says of the coach's demand. " Mr. Shanahan had his day in court, so to speak, where we found proof that [ Shanahan and the Broncos ] had perjured themselves."

          Trask declined to elaborate on the perjury accusation, other than to say, "Since we presented proof that he and the Broncos perjured themselves, we haven't heard a peep from Shanahan , the Broncos or the NFL ." Asked on Monday about the Raiders ' charge, Shanahan laughed. "
          —MICHAEL SILVER


          Surprise, surprise, surprise. Al Davis appealed, delayed, weasled, whatever he could do to avoid paying Shanahan or to even donate the money as Shanahan suggested. In todays dollars, assuming a very conservative average interest gained of 4% per year it's well over a half million bucks.
          Nice find! You know the ol'e krypt keeper ain't EVER gonna pay anyone a penny of that money; even the Oakland school district! Tell ya what, it seems anytime Shanny can beat the Raiders, it's like he's getting a little payback, a little at a time!
          Haze gray and underway!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by SLVR and Black View Post
            Or an immature baby? I've been burned by people before but I've never held a grudge for anywhere near as long as Shanny has. So there's a disagreement about cash, big deal, grow up and move on. Hating someone for that long does nobody any good. What do you think a therapist or psychologist would say about Shanahan -- emotionally healthy or not?
            Burned for what, a couple of bucks??? Some guy messed with your girl??? Got fired by a lamo boss that you didn't suck up to enough??? Hey, this is just business...take it as that, just business! So Shanahan get's a little glee from sticking it to the Raiders, and especially the krypt keeper; SO WHAT!!!
            Haze gray and underway!

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            • #51
              Originally posted by SLVR and Black View Post
              Apparently the hatred does control his life. When you hate someone that much, you give a lot of control over to the object of your hate. And, allowing that much emotion to remain with you for so long is a pretty bad thing, both personally and professionally. An important thing to note is that all of this happened more than 20 years ago, and Shanahan still says that the feelings "haven't dissipated". Don't you think that it's time for Mike to move on in life?

              The odd thing is, that people always hate the quality in other people that they hate about themselves. Shanahan has been accused of being ruthless, perhaps his experience with Davis hit a bit too close to home? And BTW, I wasn't really around that much for Shanahan's brief stay, but I've read and heard that he was never able to get the support of the players. There were guys like Mike Haynes who likened Shanahan to a "crazy man". Keep in mind that this is far off speculation, but I'm wondering if Shanahan didn't get caught up in Cocaine or something like that. Every thing that I've read and heard about him being with the Raiders is so counter to what I've witnessed. Perhaps there was some substance/booze problem. I dunno. Again, very, very far off speculation, I'm absolutely not saying anything beyond the fact that it entered my mind and would make everything fit.
              A substance abuse problemis NOT his problem! Al "bag of bones" Davis is like a cancer! Sure, they came close to winning a SB, and low and behold, the coach that beat Oakland then was ol'e Chuckie, Jon Gruden- ex-oakland HC!
              Haze gray and underway!

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              • #52
                Originally posted by pipes View Post
                Al Davis better be careful on Monday night!!

                Cutler has a helluva lot better arm than Grbac, and is more accurate!
                End up shattering that old bone head!
                Haze gray and underway!

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by HORSEPOWER 56 View Post
                  This was a post from Broncosforums.com concerning Shanny's hate for the raiders and Al Davis. It's an article from 1998 so you may not understand some of the references if you haven't been a fan that long. I laughed long and loud after reading it:

                  Kansas City quarterback Elvis Grbac remembered a story this past week that encapsulated Denver Coach Mike Shanahan, perhaps the smartest and most talented, yet most ruthless, head coach in the National Football League.

                  It was 1994 and Shanahan and Grbac were both with the San Francisco 49ers. Shanahan, the offensive coordinator, was working with Grbac before a game against Oakland. Shanahan had spent just over one season as coach of the Raiders before being dismissed by the owner, Al Davis. The breakup was bitter, and the two men despised each other, mainly because of a dispute over back pay.

                  Davis, as he does before almost every game, was walking the field, talking to players and others. Shanahan pulled Grbac aside, Grbac recalled, and gave an unusual order: ''See Al Davis over there? I want you to throw the ball right at him.''

                  A shocked Grbac replied: ''I can't do that. If I hit him, do you know what he could do to me?''

                  Shanahan looked at Grbac with his intense glare and said, ''Throw the ball.''

                  So Grbac did. He threw a tight, hard spiral some 30 yards directly at the head of Davis. At the last second, Davis saw it and ducked, the ball missing him by only a few inches. Davis, his hair ruffled, then made an obscene gesture at Shanahan, witnessed by a former Raiders coach who confirmed Grbac's story.

                  Shanahan and Davis won't be shaking hands before the Broncos play the Raiders next Sunday.

                  Whatever burns inside of Shanahan -- there may not be a word to sufficiently describe it -- it tells him to ask his quarterback to throw a fastball at a Hall of Fame owner. Those same forces also drive Shanahan to be the great, highly competitive coach he is.

                  For one thing, Shanahan's intensity pushes him to be incredibly prepared. He was breaking down game film of the New England Patriots more than a month ago to get ready for the Monday night game last week, which the Broncos won, 27-21. His players say they are never caught by surprise by anything another team does. His ability to work with quarterbacks and smooth out the kinks in an offense is unparalleled. A head coach in Shanahan's division said that when he plays against a Shanahan-coached offense, he puts more hours into his preparation than he would otherwise.

                  Then there is the ruthless Shanahan. Last month he cut the fourth-round pick Curtis Alexander less than a week before the Broncos were to play Tennessee in Alexander's hometown of Memphis. Alexander had gotten tickets for more than 40 family and friends. Shanahan cut the fifth-round pick Chris Howard for fumbling too much.

                  Coaches who have total control over their teams, like Shanahan does, usually don't cut high picks that way -- they don't want to admit they made a mistake. But Shanahan, who recently signed a multiyear contract extension that made him the richest head coach in N.F.L. history, does not care about those things. He is going to do whatever it takes to make his team better.

                  He is also not afraid to send a message. By demoting the popular safety Tyrone Braxton to second string during training camp, Shanahan was showing his players that if they did not perform, they were next.

                  ''Yeah,'' said Broncos defensive end Neil Smith, ''you could say that got everyone's attention.''

                  Still, Shanahan's supporters say he isn't ruthless, just straightforward.

                  ''Mike is honest,'' said the Denver owner, Pat Bowlen. ''He levels with players. He doesn't fool players like a lot of coaches. There was a coach here who would use players, then when he didn't need the players anymore, he discarded them. Mike doesn't do that.''

                  Bowlen said Shanahan is more compassionate than people know. If Shanahan cuts a player, Bowlen said, Shanahan will call coaches on other teams to put in a good word. He will also do that for players he trades; that happened last month after the Broncos traded wide receiver Patrick Jeffers to the Dallas Cowboys.

                  Because Shanahan is so intense -- he puts in 12- to 14-hour days -- does he worry about burnout? Shanahan said no, because he does have a life in the off season, traveling with his family, playing golf or just relaxing at his home. ''Football doesn't control my life,'' Shanahan said, ''I do.''


                  Shanny's a Bada$$!
                  Originally posted by Cutmeister6 View Post
                  New to the Bronco base, can someone give me a quick summary on where Shanahans detest of Al derives. I can see the genuine hate in his eyes.
                  This should sum it all up!!!!!
                  Haze gray and underway!

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                  • #54
                    What a coincidence...I, too, still hate the Faders.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by SLVR and Black View Post
                      Keep in mind that this is far off speculation, but I'm wondering if Shanahan didn't get caught up in Cocaine or something like that. Perhaps there was some substance/booze problem. I dunno. Again, very, very far off speculation, I'm absolutely not saying anything beyond the fact that it entered my mind and would make everything fit.
                      A Raider fan would certainly know what substance abuse looks like, I'm sure.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by #28 View Post
                        What a coincidence...I, too, still hate the Faders.
                        I think that feeling is pretty much mutual around here!
                        Haze gray and underway!

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                        • #57
                          Well i assure you that had it been the other way

                          Around and Pat Bowlen had a contract like that with a former coach it would

                          get paid !! No if's and or but's!!!!! That is one of many reasons why

                          Broncoland Has more class by far than the Has been Faiders!!!!!! Al Davis is

                          scum u deserve a loser like that. It reminds me of a line in a movie!! Denzel

                          washington movie - Remember the titans when they are at football camp and

                          one of the kids looked up at the supposedly team captain And he said i quote

                          "ATTITUDE REFLECTS LEADERSHIP!" Al davis is a loser and that is why the

                          faiders have a losing record for 5 straight years! I would say u are more than

                          welcome to convert over to the Broncos fan base but we dont want your

                          cancer here!

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