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  • #31
    As a complete Corner, nobody is better than Champ.
    Pass coverage, run support, tackling and any other category you want to throw in. There's not a better defender at the corner position than Champ Bailey.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by cammina View Post
      Our Defense wasn't perfect against KC, it was effective.

      4 turnovers makes it look terrible. You guys wondered why champ wasn't on #1, i provided an argument. it worked out pretty well with the stops and punts and one Champ turnover.

      #3Cb wasn't off bowe by that much. With a little pass rush you guys would think it was genius.

      Think effectively before you speak with a mouth full of negativity.

      mckeough and roddoliver, wow

      That made me LOL

      How is your defense "effective" if you lost quite heavily

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      • #33
        Originally posted by rockreptile View Post
        As a complete Corner, nobody is better than Champ.
        Pass coverage, run support, tackling and any other category you want to throw in. There's not a better defender at the corner position than Champ Bailey.
        Jammer is close, VERY close.......he only lacks the ability to actually catch the ball, but dude shuts it down, provides excellent run support, and is arguably a top 5 tackling corner

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        • #34
          Originally posted by AyanBronco View Post
          The actual number is 10. Two for TDs. is 10 any less significant than 18?

          I prefer 18, it looks better. it may be inaccurate but cro getting spanked for 10 and 2 TDs isn't much different.

          I boasted.

          Is that all you can provide for an argument?

          You've epically FAILED
          A) Yes, it is. You're saying he caught almost double the number of balls he actually did against Cromartie. Don't know how you can't see that. You'd make a good mathematician.

          B) You can't use falsities in your arguments, especially if you're going to admit that what you said was, in fact, incorrect. You'd make a good debater, too.

          C) Marshall only scored 1 touchdown that game, actually... and if you're talking about Scheffler's first touchdown, which wasn't the responsibility of Cromartie, you're wrong again.

          My point was that you shouldn't make personal attacks on people who are only trying to voice their own opinion. It's what these forums are for. It makes it worse when you try to tell them that their opinion is wrong, too, and fill your own with wrong stats and information.

          You, sir, epically failed.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by McKeough View Post
            A) Yes, it is. You're saying he caught almost double the number of balls he actually did against Cromartie. Don't know how you can't see that. You'd make a good mathematician.

            B) You can't use falsities in your arguments, especially if you're going to admit that what you said was, in fact, incorrect. You'd make a good debater, too.

            C) Marshall only scored 1 touchdown that game, actually... and if you're talking about Scheffler's first touchdown, which wasn't the responsibility of Cromartie, you're wrong again.

            My point was that you shouldn't make personal attacks on people who are only trying to voice their own opinion. It's what these forums are for. It makes it worse when you try to tell them that their opinion is wrong, too, and fill your own with wrong stats and information.

            You, sir, epically failed.
            McKeough, this is a forum, this isn't a classroom nor is it a scientific article where precise numbers and stats are needed to validate a person's personal opinion. People boast here all the time.

            If you want to be factual, Cromartie attributed to thirteen completions at an average of 7.9 ypc. The statistical difference between 13 and 18 is within 72% accuracy with a marginal error of approximately 5-10% depending on whether or not Cromartie was actually responsible for those catches.

            When Ayan is boasting a statement that is 72% accurate in which he bumped up to 100% he is taking a homer approach of trying to exemplify the fact that Cromartie got beat and got beat bad.

            He may be exaggerating his point by a certain stretch, but that's what fans do; contrasting that to Mckeogh's approach of trying to sound intelligent and demean another's personal opinion. Ayan apparently loves Bmarsh and hates cro, even if he's 72% accurate it's enough to validate the point that cromartie DOES SUCK; this is a forum.

            case in point, you are no regulator to sit here and decide who shouldn't be able to attack others for their opinions. Opinions are there to be critiqued or to be criticized. If you're willing to post, you better be willing to accept it. Your post is redundant and pointless. The argument here is that Champ was inserted for another role other than locking down one receiver and the fact that Bmarsh>Cromartie.

            McKeough, you ultimately fulfill the very definition of FAILURE.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by cammina View Post

              McKeough, you ultimately fulfill the very definition of FAILURE.
              LMAO, Mckeogh = OWNED

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              • #37
                Originally posted by cammina View Post
                Why would you use Champ to lockdown exactly ONE player when he has the ability to cover half a field AND shut down the run on his side?!
                Because zone coverage requires us to take our LB's away from the blitz. If we lock their 2 best with Champ and Dre and blitz heavy we will give up some big plays, but we will also cause some turnovers and pressure, This is how you use a very fast LB like B.Bailey and D.Williams.

                Will the Blitz work every time , no. Thats why you pay Dre and Champ that money.

                The Zone Coverage we are using is gashing us and keeping their offense and our defense on the field all day. If we get down to the red zone the way we play D is fine, its been very effective there. But in between the 20s were getting killed and its taking all the time off the clock.


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                • #38
                  Originally posted by RAWRAMN View Post
                  That made me LOL

                  How is your defense "effective" if you lost quite heavily
                  4 offensive turnovers, 2 3 and outs. Inflated KC's stats.


                  :salute!: !!Get well soon!!:salute!:

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                  • #39
                    why can't we make the side he locks down be the side with their best receiver?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by cammina View Post
                      McKeough, you ultimately fulfill the very definition of FAILURE.
                      Yeah, well you fulfil the very definition of EPIC FAILURE. So ha. [/smelly banter]

                      Chillax guys, it's not a courtroom.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by cammina View Post
                        McKeough, this is a forum, this isn't a classroom nor is it a scientific article where precise numbers and stats are needed to validate a person's personal opinion. People boast here all the time.

                        If you want to be factual, Cromartie attributed to thirteen completions at an average of 7.9 ypc. The statistical difference between 13 and 18 is within 72% accuracy with a marginal error of approximately 5-10% depending on whether or not Cromartie was actually responsible for those catches.

                        When Ayan is boasting a statement that is 72% accurate in which he bumped up to 100% he is taking a homer approach of trying to exemplify the fact that Cromartie got beat and got beat bad.

                        He may be exaggerating his point by a certain stretch, but that's what fans do; contrasting that to Mckeogh's approach of trying to sound intelligent and demean another's personal opinion. Ayan apparently loves Bmarsh and hates cro, even if he's 72% accurate it's enough to validate the point that cromartie DOES SUCK; this is a forum.

                        case in point, you are no regulator to sit here and decide who shouldn't be able to attack others for their opinions. Opinions are there to be critiqued or to be criticized. If you're willing to post, you better be willing to accept it. Your post is redundant and pointless. The argument here is that Champ was inserted for another role other than locking down one receiver and the fact that Bmarsh>Cromartie.

                        McKeough, you ultimately fulfill the very definition of FAILURE.
                        It's a good thing that I argued the fact that Marshall is an all-world talent, and that Cromartie did get burned... oh wait. So, before you go on about your "72% accuracy rate", you should probably... well, get it accurate. Cromartie was targeted 11 times, and was burned on 10 of them. He had ten passes caught on him. The statistical difference between 10 and 18...

                        It's a good thing that you seem to have missed the point of my first post, which was nothing more than a cheap knock at Ayan for making personal cracks at another member. It was sarcasm, and nothing more... but that seems to have escaped you.

                        It's also good that you reiterated the fact that I'm not allowed to regulate who can and cannot critique other members. That's the mods job... and if you weren't aware, it's against the CoC to do so. If you don't agree with one members opinion, that's one thing, but to personally attack them / attempt to embarrass them, it's not allowed. Hopefully you pointing that out for a second time will help those who have trouble reading figure it out, like your-- oh, nevermind.


                        Originally posted by cammina
                        McKeough, this is a forum, this isn't a classroom nor is it a scientific article where precise numbers and stats are needed to validate a person's personal opinion.
                        You're right. If it's just an opinion, then sure... but you can't have an opinion on fact. As much as you'd like to associate all of Marshalls 18 catches and "2" touchdowns to Cromarties poor coverage, you can't. He wasn't responsible for all them... and as much as you'd like to think that, it's not the case.

                        You probably shouldn't run your mouth if you're talking senseless garbage, too.

                        It's a good thing you're English skills are up to par, because your logic surely isn't. (Again, I'm kiddin' man. Take it easy...)

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by muse View Post
                          Cro maybe a ballhawk, but there's only one thing he's got on Champ Bailey: having let one receiver catch 10 balls on him in a single game
                          14, muse, Marshall caught 14 of his 18 passes against "Cro", per NFLN......

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by stnzed View Post
                            14, muse, Marshall caught 14 of his 18 passes against "Cro", per NFLN......
                            I was wathcing NFLN and they said ten.

                            As have a few of the stats pages I was looking at. Uh oh.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by tgn View Post
                              why can't we make the side he locks down be the side with their best receiver?
                              All they've been doing is lining up Their #1 opposite of champ, are we supposed to flip our whole defensive play just to have champ line up with that?

                              That would give away our coverage everytime. And all their #1 has to do is motion down to the other side...

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by RAWRAMN View Post
                                Jammer is close, VERY close.......he only lacks the ability to actually catch the ball, but dude shuts it down, provides excellent run support, and is arguably a top 5 tackling corner
                                Only because he has good Dline support, doesnt have to play run first or on an island. Their is no comparision of how the 2 defenses work.

                                Champ on the Chargers D with some pass rush would be a sight to behold.


                                :salute!: !!Get well soon!!:salute!:

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