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  • Originally posted by giv View Post
    Peter King on Dan Patrick

    Cutler wanted out since when Shanahan and Bates left the town ?

    SI.com's Peter King joined the Dan Patrick show to discuss the report Jay Cutler wants out of Denver.

    -- King thinks that perhaps Cutler or his people asked for a trade before all this went down. The Broncos said no. But King says that a trade might be the best thing for all parties.

    -- Denver coach Josh McDaniels told Peter that he didn't intend to go after Matt Cassel in free agency. But an opportunity arose in a three-way trade the day before free agency. That's when McDaniels went after Cassel. King didn't know the third team involved.

    -- McDaniels told Peter he still wants to sit in a room one-on-one with Cutler.

    -- King says that Cutler just doesn't want to play in Denver. This controversy simply makes it easier for Cutler to leave.
    Jay needs to understand what McDaniel's was trying to do. Josh had an opportunity to get a QB that he was familiar with and was familiar with him. This had nothing to do with Josh not liking Jay or thinking he was a bad QB. I agree with many other people that if he was going to do somthing like this he should have been 1000% sure that he was going to get that trade done. "He knew how Jay was going to react, because that's just the way the kid is wired"(Jim Rome)

    this all falls on Jay now, he never had to act like this was a personal attack on him because it wasn't. This was McDaniel's simply trying to get a player that could come in and hit the ground running. Jay is the one who took this entire mess the extra yard, when it clearly could have fixed in private and in house. Everybody stop blaming this whole mess on Josh because it's not all his fault. I am a McDaniel's supporter because he is apart of the Broncos organization and I am a Bronco fan.

    I do not appreciate the kind of attitude that Cutler has shown. Quit frankly, i'm glad that he reacted this way because now he is showing his true colors. It's all about money for him now, the way he is acting and behaving proves to me that he doesn't care about his teammates in Denver but his monstrous pay day that is coming his way. So thank you Jay, for making this mess what it has come to. Now is the time to find a real game loving football player, not some selfish, cocky, arrogant punk who thinks he is higher than the game itself.
    Last edited by JvDub95; 03-16-2009, 12:31 PM.

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    • Originally posted by giv View Post
      Peter King on Dan Patrick

      Cutler wanted out since when Shanahan and Bates left the town ?

      SI.com's Peter King joined the Dan Patrick show to discuss the report Jay Cutler wants out of Denver.

      -- King thinks that perhaps Cutler or his people asked for a trade before all this went down. The Broncos said no. But King says that a trade might be the best thing for all parties.

      -- Denver coach Josh McDaniels told Peter that he didn't intend to go after Matt Cassel in free agency. But an opportunity arose in a three-way trade the day before free agency. That's when McDaniels went after Cassel. King didn't know the third team involved.

      -- McDaniels told Peter he still wants to sit in a room one-on-one with Cutler.

      -- King says that Cutler just doesn't want to play in Denver. This controversy simply makes it easier for Cutler to leave.
      McDaniels is full of **** **** you Peter King and **** you McDaniels

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      • Originally posted by Shsonline View Post
        But why not just come out and ask for it? Better yet, why distract from a team learning a new coaches system just 2 months into the offseason with demands for a trade? Just perform well under the system the first year and show your worth!

        I'm all for giving Cutler a 7 year max contract deal but not if he cares more about his own self rather than the wellbeing of the team and his franchise. I don't want somebody leading my beloved team
        I'm telling you, let Bus run his course and get Jay a long term deal with lots of cash. Then all will be fine. Jay isn't making these decisions Bus Cook is.
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        • CUTLER IS THE GREATEST QB EVER, I AM SO EXCITED WE HAVE HIM GET OUT OF DENVER JAKE YOU DID NOTHING FOR US



          oh, wait

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          • Originally posted by Mile High Jedi View Post
            Did McDaniels persue this deal with New England to trade Cutler for Cassel or to try to secure Cassel as a back up for Jay?

            Does Peter King know for sure?


            ....do you?
            Seriously? The interview was with McDaniels. Did you read it?

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            • I hope Jay never gets traded,hang in their Jay

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              • Originally posted by WoodyInvincible View Post
                He should've handled it better by not entertaining any trades but Cutler took this situation to the extreme to extort a new contract out of us or another team.

                After the initial story broke of the Broncos possibly trading Cutler I don't know if there is anything he could've done to prevent it from escalating to this point aside from giving him a new contract.
                That's what happens when you play with fire. McDu,,y got burnt-and who wouldn't want Cutler for 10 yrs, well, most of us and the REST OF THE NFL from the looks of it!

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                • lol ok now so russel is a bust look what team he is on! the raiders hall all kind of GOOD players that do a damn thing when they get there! look at all of our 1st round picks we have got in the past 5 years we have 2 on the team still so were getting bust at 12,16 and what ever numbers we had and hell in that case you can call Jay a bust to cause he hasnt had a winning season yet fa get all the lil records he might have broke and throwing for 4.500 yards those dont mean anything winning dose where i come from hell even brian gresie had winning seasons with us hahah

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                  • Originally posted by Chicago-Broncofreak View Post
                    Here is the text... (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?eref=T1)

                    Cutler's time as Bronco nearing end (From Peter King on SI.com)

                    Quite an offseason we're having. The NFLPA elects someone no one outside the District of Columbia Bar Association has ever heard of to succeed the late Gene Upshaw -- and all he has to do is go head-to-head with Roger Goodell on the most important CBA negotiation in a generation. One of the rising star quarterbacks in football, Jay Cutler, moves closer and closer toward divorce court with the Broncos. And LaDainian Tomlinson, who was supposed to get his contract cut to smithereens in his renegotiation deal with the Chargers, actually did quite well. Maybe not well enough to retire a Charger, but close.

                    I'll tell you a few nuggets about the election of DeMaurice Smith as the new NFLPA head, but this story has been Don Banks' baby on this site all month, so please give him a read this morning. I'm going to lead with the Cutler story, following two chats I had with Denver coach Josh McDaniels late Sunday night. I got the sense he can't believe it's come to this duel at the OK Corral.

                    "I would probably be really good for Jay, and I know he would be really good for me,'' McDaniels told me over the phone from Denver. "I think that's the part that's shocking to me.''

                    That it probably will never happen, he means.

                    It makes no sense. None. When the Broncos report for the start of their offseason program this morning at their plush complex south of town, Cutler will be a no-show. I reported recently that Cutler wanted to be traded after the Broncos lost both Mike Shanahan (fired) and offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates (went to USC as offensive coordinator), and that message was delivered to the Denver front office. Now I expect Cutler, through agent Bus Cook, to reiterate his demand ... and what's more, I expect the Broncos to seriously consider it. Owner Pat Bowlen said Sunday night, "we might lose'' Cutler, though he was not specific about how, or why, or when, and Cutler told Chris Mortensen of ESPN he has asked Cook to formally request a trade.

                    Denver has to tread carefully here. McDaniels told me he is frustrated by Cutler's interpretation of a conference call and then an in-person meeting this weekend, and he still wants to talk with Cutler again face-to-face to see if they can iron out their differences. If McDaniels walks into his first meeting with his players this morning, and they think he's trying to kick Cutler to the curb, they're going to ask, "Why did Bowlen hire this idiot?''

                    But in the end, Denver will have to strongly consider trading Cutler. If you're a rookie coach, as McDaniels is, and you've got to set the right tone for the team, how can you have a quarterback who doesn't want to be there as your franchise leader? Parting with Cutler would be forcing the Broncos to start over at the game's most important position when they thought they had the position filled for the next decade. But Cutler, who is one of the best quarterback prospects to enter the NFL in years, can be moody, and if he never buys what McDaniels is selling, it could drag the team down.

                    How we got to this point, in chronological order:

                    McDaniels said he was not considering trading Cutler until he was contacted "by two teams'' at the Scouting Combine -- presumably Detroit and Tampa. They were pie-in-the-sky inquiries, though, and he didn't consider anything seriously, he said, until the day before the Feb. 27 beginning of free-agency, when he got a serious proposal for Cutler.

                    "This was a non-issue until Thursday [Feb. 26],'' McDaniels said. "There was obviously a scenario where teams figured we'd be interested in Matt Cassel, because I'd coached him in New England. When someone calls, I'm going to consider it, because that's my job.''

                    Cutler believes the Broncos were much more interested in trading him and signing Cassel than they've said. I asked McDaniels if he'd been interested in Cassel before the contact by the two teams at the combine, going back to when he knew Cassel might be on the market and available in trade from the Patriots. "No, that's totally untrue,'' he said.

                    McDaniels did pursue a deal with New England on the first day of free agency, but not intensely, he said, because he and Broncos general manager Brian Xanders were in the middle of doing six free-agent negotiations in the opening two days of free-agency. "I think we were too late to the dance,'' he said, meaning the Chiefs had already made the deal with New England -- a second-round pick for Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel. Denver would have given more, likely a first-round pick, but Patriots coach Bill Belichick had his deal done with the Chiefs.

                    "Do I understand about Jay being hurt that we'd consider this?'' McDaniels said. "Sure. But I can tell you that it wasn't like there was any grand plan by us to trade Jay Cutler. That wasn't the case. But when we've told them [Cutler and Cook], I think it's fallen on deaf ears.''

                    I texted Cutler and got no response. In his comments to Mortensen earlier, he said his time in Denver "had run its course,'' the rift between him and McDaniels is "not something they want to fix,'' that McDaniels -- in their meeting Saturday -- "made it clear he could still entertain trading me,'' and said the coach "made it clear he wants his own guy.''

                    I texted McDaniels, and shortly before 1 a.m. Eastern on Monday, he called to react to Cutler's words.

                    "Oh boy,'' he said, and sighed. "No, no, no. Nothing like that was conveyed.'' And he sighed again.

                    "I think the hangup is, 'Well, you considered doing it once, would you ever consider it again?' It keeps coming out like I want my own guy. Thinking we want to trade him now is totally opposite what we've been trying to do here ... We've been trying like hell for two weeks to get a face-to-face meeting.''

                    What frustrates McDaniels is that the two sides met -- he thinks without acrimony -- and then word gets out that there was tension or vindictiveness in the meeting. "It's hard to believe we're sharing the same intentions and can have such different interpretations of the meeting,'' he said. "When we met [Saturday], my point was, 'We all know where this was, and now we all have to try to move forward.' After we met for a while, and went over a lot of the same ground we'd been over, Jay said to me, 'Can I have a few more hours to think?' I said, 'Yeah, give me a call on my cell phone.' He never called. Bus [Cook] called Brian [Xanders], but Jay didn't call me.''

                    I asked McDaniels if he feels he'll be forced to trade Cutler.

                    "No,'' he said. "He's got three years left on his contract. We're not at the point where we're going to do it now ... [But] it's probably something we're going to have to talk about. We've been trying to communicate, and I still want to try, but if that's the direction we're headed, we're going to have to talk.''

                    There's such a gulf in the two versions of events. But it looks like, taking the long view, Cutler will be playing elsewhere unless he and McDaniels sit in a room together for two hours and come out married. That's not likely to happen. Maybe Cutler can't take the dissing he feels from McDaniels, or maybe he's fabricating the dissing to justify in his own mind going somewhere else. I don't know. But I do know this: If I had the choice of Denver, Tampa Bay, Detroit and the Jets, and the Denver coach has worked successfully with Tom Brady and Matt Cassel, I'd be thinking very hard about not burning a bridge that can't be reconstructed.
                    McDaniels is full of ****:cutler::cutler::cutler::cutler::cutler:

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                    • Keep voting animals.

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                      • Originally posted by KeepItReal View Post
                        Much of this is signature Bus Cook. Check his record with Favre and others.
                        Cutler is a grown *** man with a Vanderbilt education. I refuse to place no accountability on him for his actions.
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                        • Originally posted by velly4 View Post
                          lol ok now so russel is a bust look what team he is on! the raiders hall all kind of GOOD players that do a damn thing when they get there! look at all of our 1st round picks we have got in the past 5 years we have 2 on the team still so were getting bust at 12,16 and what ever numbers we had and hell in that case you can call Jay a bust to cause he hasnt had a winning season yet fa get all the lil records he might have broke and throwing for 4.500 yards those dont mean anything winning dose where i come from hell even brian gresie had winning seasons with us hahah
                          The difference here is in the numbers. Our busts in the first round have cost us pennies compared to what 1st round busts at the #1 slot would cost. You do realize the kind of contract we'd have to give a guy at #1 overall, right? It would literally eat up almost all of our rookie salary money.
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                          • Originally posted by jvw View Post
                            Jay needs to understand what McDaniel's was trying to do. Josh had an opportunity to get a QB that he was familiar with and was familiar with him. This had nothing to do with Josh not liking Jay or thinking he was a bad QB. I agree with many other people that if he was going to do somthing like this he should have been 1000% sure that he was going to get that trade done. "He knew how Jay was going to react, because that's just the way the kid is wired"(Jim Rome)

                            this all falls on Jay now, he never had to act like this was a personal attack on him because it wasn't. This was McDaniel's simply trying to get a player that could come in and hit the ground running. Jay is the one who took this entire mess the extra yard, when it clearly could have fixed in private and in house. Everybody stop blaming this whole mess on Josh because it's not all his fault. I am a McDaniel's supporter because he is apart of the Broncos organization and I am a Bronco fan.

                            I do not appreciate the kind of attitude that Cutler has shown. Quit frankly, i'm glad that he reacted this way because now he is showing his true colors. It's all about money for him now, the way he is acting and behaving proves to me that he doesn't care about his teammates in Denver but his monstrous pay day that is coming his way. So thank you Jay, for making this mess what it has come to. Now is the time to find a real game loving football player, not some selfish, cocky, arrogant punk who thinks he is higher than the game itself.
                            Totally agreed. What will be really sweet justice is hopefully we trade him to Cleveland where he gets to back up Derek Anderson, we get a serviceable qb in Quinn and hopefully a few years worth of draft picks.

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                            • At this stage of the game I would be all for it.
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                              • Originally posted by 24TheCHAMP24 View Post
                                Do a little more reading. Jay came out and said that coach never critiqued him on his play or anything like that in their meeting.

                                http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3983805



                                Cutler added: "Josh has never said anything negative to me about my play or anything else, for that matter."

                                Its about half way down after williamsons pic
                                Well ESPN wasn't the source I got it from, it was cbs. I wasn't making stuff up or anything.

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