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    • New Carucci Column and Some Interesting Thoughts

      So Vic Carucci's new column on NFL.com argues that there is no way the relationship between Jay and Josh can be repaired, and that Cutler is on his way out of town no matter what.

      http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

      The really interesting theory he comes up with is that Cutler (and Scheffler), urged by Bus Cook, looked at the system McDaniels ran last year (full of precise, structured passing) and decided that it was not their game (high-flying and gunslinging). So now they want to go elsewhere.

      Regardless of whether these were Jay's true motives or not, it got me thinking about our possible new offensive "system". Sure, the scheme has proven that it can be dominant--in New England. But what is it like for fans? I grew up on Elway and I love the trademark Denver gunslinging, risk-taking, gritty passing game that we've had here for so long. We've never really had a "system" passing game. I'm not sure how I'll feel about it as a fan--I mean, winning is great (assuming it works), but I think I'll really miss the other style of offense. The New England style might be too regimented and structured for me.

      But there's also the chance that McDaniels was smart enough to realize that Cutler isn't the ideal guy for the Patriots' system. This would explain the pursuit of Cassel. But when that didn't work, it's possible that McDaniels is planning to use Cutler's skills in a hybrid-type system, where the plays are still highly-structured but there is some freedom built in to the playbook that allows for Cutler to be a gunslinger.

      Who knows at this point what our offense will look like, or who will be throwing the ball for us. I do know that I'm slightly less excited about the upcoming season now that I've been thinking deeply about our new offensive scheme.
      Last edited by MileHighInNY; 03-17-2009, 03:33 PM.

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      • Originally posted by MileHighInNY View Post
        So Vic Carucci's new column on NFL.com argues that there is no way the relationship between Jay and Josh can be repaired, and that Cutler is on his way out of town no matter what.

        http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

        The really interesting theory he comes up with is that Cutler (and Scheffler), urged by Bus Cook, looked at the system McDaniels ran last year (full of precise, structured passing) and decided that it was not their game (high-flying and gunslinging). So now they want to go elsewhere.
        Lol!

        I just love how these columnists come up with these off-the-wall theories without knowing any of the persons involved, and try to pass it off as fact through their writings.

        Responsible journalism at it's finest.
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        • An interesting thought that should shed new light on the situation.

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          • Jay Cutler has to go says Vic Carucci

            There is no way for Jay Cutler to reconcile his differences with the Denver Broncos.

            The damage to his relationship with the team is beyond repair. He knows it. Josh McDaniels, his main protagonist, knows it. Broncos owner Pat Bowlen and other members of the team's hierarchy know it, too.

            Brandt: How to fix this
            "Cutler's cap number is not great the next three years. If the Broncos offered Cutler more money, I would not be surprised to see all this bad blood go away," Gil Brandt said in Tuesday's live chat with fans. Chat transcript ...
            Cutler wants out. Although the Broncos publicly maintain they're not yet at the point of granting his wish, it seems as if the time will eventually come (perhaps within the next month) when they ship the Pro Bowl quarterback to another team.

            It is the only solution to a drama that has dominated NFL offseason discussion in a way that rivals last year's soap opera starring Brett Favre.

            And it is hardly a coincidence that the situations have a common thread: Bus Cook, who was Favre's agent, also represents Cutler. When Favre reached a point where he no longer could work with Packers general manager Ted Thompson, Cook did his part to pry his unhappy client out of Green Bay and worked out a trade that resulted in the regrettable season that Favre spent with the New York Jets in 2008.

            Cook is the same agent who was involved with the acrimonious relationship between yet another quarterback, Steve McNair, and the Tennessee Titans -- so acrimonious that the Titans banned McNair from working out at their facility during the offseason and resulted in his finishing his career with the Baltimore Ravens. And Cook is the same agent who was involved with the battle that wide receiver Randy Moss had with the Oakland Raiders before he wound up with the New England Patriots.

            I am having serious doubts that this entire Cutler mess stems from his outrage over the fact McDaniels engaged in discussions with his former employer, the Patriots, for a possible three-way trade that would have sent Matt Cassel to Denver and Cutler elsewhere.

            I'm convinced it began after Bowlen fired coach Mike Shanahan and also parted ways with offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates. After that, Cutler realized he no longer had anyone who believed in him as the Broncos' starter, who appreciated his gunslinger-style skills and would design a playbook and call plays that would take full advantage of them.

            Where will Cutler land?

            Here are some teams, listed in alphabetical order, that might be interested in trading for Jay Cutler:

            » Chicago Bears: They can't really believe they're solid with Kyle Orton.

            » Cleveland Browns: They're not convinced that Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson is the answer.

            » Detroit Lions: They have the top overall pick in the draft, as well as the 20th overall choice, and their starting quarterback job is in the shaky hands of Daunte Culpepper.

            » Minnesota Vikings: They reportedly showed interested in Cutler, even after acquiring Sage Rosenfels from the Houston Texans.

            » New York Jets: Agent Bus Cook delivered Brett Favre to them last year. Does Cook do it again with Cutler?

            » San Francisco 49ers: They claim they're going with Shaun Hill as their starter but could do so much better.

            » Tampa Bay Buccaneers: They don't have a legitimate starter.
            He certainly didn't see McDaniels as that person. Nor should he have. As offensive coordinator of the Patriots, McDaniels ran a scheme that had no room for the type of high-risk passing that is the hallmark of Cutler's game. Cutler and his good friend, Broncos tight end Tony Scheffler (another Cook client), took a close look at the type of offense the Patriots ran under McDaniels.

            It didn't take long for them to reach the same conclusion: "This isn't what we do."

            McDaniels didn't see Cutler as a good fit, either, which was why he did the logical thing and entertained an overture from the Patriots that would have reunited him with the backup quarterback he helped turn into a star after Tom Brady's season-ending knee injury last year.

            McDaniels was hired, in large part, for his offensive vision. He was hired for the ideas that played a role in allowing Brady to have the off-the-charts season he had in 2007 and Cassel to cash in a spectacular season for a minimum payoff of $14.65 million and a starting job with the Kansas City Chiefs.

            McDaniels knows exactly the type of quarterback he needs at the controls of his system -- someone who will stay within himself, who will be methodical and precise, who will allow big plays to unfold within the structure of the offense rather than gambling that he can squeeze the ball between defenders or simply throw it to a spot too far down the field for anyone to get to … except his receiver.

            The quarterback McDaniels needs is not Cutler and will never be Cutler. And Cutler is every bit as aware of this square-peg-in-a-round-hole dynamic as McDaniels.

            Cutler is not looking to find some sort of common ground so that he and McDaniels can work together, because it doesn't exist. He and Cook will do everything they can to apply as much pressure as possible on the 32-year-old, first-year coach until they get what they want -- a one-way ticket out of Denver.

            Despite what he might say publicly, McDaniels is going to comply -- but on his terms. Before he boots a quarterback with three years left on his contract out the door, he has to make sure he can bring in one who is right for his program. The Cleveland Browns just might be able to accommodate him; their new coach, Eric Mangini, doesn't seem very keen on keeping Brady Quinn around.

            Meanwhile, McDaniels is going to at least try to create the perception that he has everything under control -- that no one, including Cutler or Cook, is going to stand in the way of getting his program off the ground with the offseason workouts that began Monday (without Cutler).

            This will only last so long, of course. Cutler seems fully prepared to make the situation as ugly as possible, and we know -- from the experiences with Favre, McNair and Moss -- that is likely to happen. Ultimately, the Broncos will have to pull the trigger on a trade.

            It is the only solution.

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            • probably 2 years however i believe he has been here to long already..... well past wearing out his welcome

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              • So, naturally, Cutler would spend much of the month of February trying to familiarize himself with McDaniels' new offense and language just to put up a good front, all the while plotting and scheming to create a crisis.

                Wow.

                A cunning man, that Jay Cutler. Diabolical even.
                Last edited by Runner; 03-17-2009, 03:39 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Runner View Post
                  So, naturally, Cutler would spend much of the month of February trying to familiarize himself with McDaniels' new offense and language just to out up a good front, all the while plotting and scheming to create a crisis.

                  Wow.

                  A cunning man, that Jay Cutler. Diabolical even.
                  I guess it's feasible that Jay spent that month with the new playbook, and that's how he realized that it wasn't really going to fit his game.

                  I'm not really buying what Carucci is selling here; just playing Devil's Advocate.

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                  • Carucci at his finest..... a pile of crap.

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                    • Well damn, if Vic Carucci says it, we must do it! He's so insightful, and is obviously the best journalist out there!

                      /endsarcasm

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                      • yeah it does suck to look at..... But he is still here, and for some reason I just dont see us trading him cause there is no deal out there that relly compinsates us for losing him
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                        • Originally posted by EddieRoyalFan View Post
                          Well damn, if Vic Carucci says it, we must do it! He's so insightful, and is obviously the best journalist out there!

                          /endsarcasm
                          You're right. QB is just another position too. It's not like it's that important. I mean why do so many teams want Jay Cutler? Something is messed up there!


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                          • Originally posted by Den615 View Post
                            but i assume if the rockies do better this year you will be rooting for them again. that is the definition of a fair weather fan.

                            the majority of the people that say they are done with the broncos will come back if our team does well in the future. its just what fair weather fans do
                            Something they taught me in the service, break down the word assume.

                            I will NEVER again be a Rockies fan. Even if they SWEEP the World Series, that team will not benefit from my potential revenue.
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                            • Of course I am no scout but based on the two games I saw I would rather have Trent Edwards. He seems like the better qb. He's been in an archaic offensive system the past few years. He could very well be the guy in McD's offense.

                              I have no basis to back this assumption.Its just my feeling if CUTLER has to go ( and i hope this can be fixed somehow still) Id rather see Edwards here.

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                              • Originally posted by UberBroncoMan View Post
                                You're right. QB is just another position too. It's not like it's that important. I mean why do so many teams want Jay Cutler? Something is messed up there!
                                I often ask my self that very question. Why do teams want Jay Cutler? His winning record is below 500. He's immature, and from what I got from it, he's a trash talker to other players (Philip Rivers fiasco).

                                I've read your others post too, your a Cutler fan boy, it's cool. I understand how you think Jay is a QB that comes around every 10 years. But how do you know he's that talented of a QB, it might just be cause he's surrounded by a great receiving core.

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