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Cutler's gets a bad rap on interceptions!
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Originally posted by iowabronco24 View PostBettendorf (right next to Davenport/Quad City area). Go to school at Iowa now. You?
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Originally posted by Breezer View PostThanks, no offense to you! I am just pointing out that we all get too carried away with thinking that we have all the answers to something we really have no knowledge or experience with. It is all in fun, my Iowa friend! I am originally from Iowa! Now in Minnesota. Broncos fan since 1977!!! Where about in Iowa are you?
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Originally posted by iowabronco24 View PostWow, good one.
Never said it was easy buddy, just said that his decisions making is questionable at times. Am I wrong? I really don't understand what your trying to prove here.
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Originally posted by Breezer View PostIf it is so easy to be a professional QB in the NFL why don't you try out? Then come back and tell us why didn't make the team!
Never said it was easy buddy, just said that his decisions making is questionable at times. Am I wrong? I really don't understand what your trying to prove here.
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Originally posted by iowabronco24 View PostOk I can see what your saying, but I'm saying that IMO, a lot of his deep passes were questionable, basically because a good portion of his deep throws were thrown into double coverage. This brings me to conclude that their was probably a higher percentage pass somewhere else on the field if the guy he was throwing to was doubled (as not every1 can be double covered).
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Originally posted by AC1 View PostI'm not going to disagree with the general notion of the post, but the line in bold is something I'm often curious about. I've seen games where they show replays of a Cutler interception or incompletion and another receiver looks open. However, they never really show the field at the point when Cutler is about to make the throw (i.e. the field he sees). They invariably begin the replay focusing on Cutler in the backfield and follow the trajectory of the ball to the targeted receiver. It is at this point that we notice that someone else may have been open or single-covered (which is kinda obvious because the defenders flow in the direction of the throw). I don't know if it's fair to look at these replays and conclude that the other guy was truly open.
The only people who knew how well Cutler read defenses were Shanahan and Bates. If he did indeed read defenses poorly or make poor decisions relative to the play called, they would have limited his role in the offense (as Shanahan had no hesitation doing with Plummer). The fact that Cutler's responsbilities only grew would indicate that Shanahan had complete confidence in Cutler's ability to process his complicated, weekly-changing playbook, read opposing defenses and make good decisions. I think that tells us everything we need to know about Cutler's decision-making process.
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Originally posted by UberBroncoMan View PostElway won them at the end of his career, and he also had a solid defense throughout his career.
Also it should be noted that Elway threw more INT's than Cutler in his first 3 years... in fact his 3rd year he threw 23 INT's. He also had the 2nd best defense in the NFL his 2nd year (points allowed).
Cutler's done damn good for having to deal with the pressure of constantly knowing you have to score, and dealing with 7-8 defenders in the backfield due to an absent running game via 7 IR RB's.Last edited by Justblaze2729; 03-30-2009, 02:55 PM.
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Originally posted by Pura Vida View PostThe packers had a much better defense than us.
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Originally posted by StugotsII View PostElway was no saint when it came to INT's and only really improved that at the end of his career.
PS. Averaging one INT a game is terrible.
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Originally posted by iowabronco24 View PostI believe his statement was just common sense from watching the games. Sometimes Jay throws deep into double coverage to Marshall, when the replay showed that there was a guy open underneath. Obviously I can't really prove that I know what she should have done or how he should distribute the ball, but I think that its just common sense that if you have a guy wide open underneath you should throw it to him, rather than force a deep throw to a guy who is covered by 2 guys. I know you love to defend Cutler, which for the most part you are right, but c'mon, its no secret Cutler was "throw it deep to Marshall" happy for a good portion of the year. Jay has all the physical tools in the world to be a great QB, and i've said physically, he's easily a top 5, possibly top 3 QB in the league. He just needs to make better decisions, like throwing the ball to the open receiver and take the deep ball when its there. IMO, this is Cutler's biggest and virtually only problem. And when he gets that corrected (I believe he will), man will this offense be scary good.
The only people who knew how well Cutler read defenses were Shanahan and Bates. If he did indeed read defenses poorly or make poor decisions relative to the play called, they would have limited his role in the offense (as Shanahan had no hesitation doing with Plummer). The fact that Cutler's responsbilities only grew would indicate that Shanahan had complete confidence in Cutler's ability to process his complicated, weekly-changing playbook, read opposing defenses and make good decisions. I think that tells us everything we need to know about Cutler's decision-making process.
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Originally posted by Ravage!!! View PostThats not accurate. The problem is, you haven't shown you know what a QB should do, nor show any knowledge in how a QB should "distribute" the ball.
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Originally posted by floridabroncos View PostDon't forget him making a fool out of Demorrio Williams. He reminds me so much of Favre (in good ways). Not afraid of anyone, fiery, and willing to take big risks for potential big rewards. I'm sorry but I just can't see why some people hate Cutler. I can understand frustration over the whole mess, but to just hate on the guy is quite frankly confusing to me. Most fans would kill to have a guy like this to root for at QB. When did my fellow Broncos fans lose their taste for the thrill of never knowing what will happen on the field. I think the SBs spoiled many of us. I remember what it was like to watch John before those SBs. It was an up and down rollercoaster ride, and although it ended up in disappointment as many times as success, it was always fun, even watching the losses was fun because you just never knew what would happen but you always knew that John would never quit until 00:00 on the clock.
1. There are those that hate him because he said he had a stronger arm than John Elway (in response to a question)
2. There are those that got their panties into a bunch when he was upset over the firing of Mike Shanahan (who for many was enemy number 1 and who ironically enough are now giving the "if you don't want to root for the head coach, go to another team" advice that they never followed themselves while Shanahan was here)
3. As to those non-Broncos fans spouting off about Cutler, most of it started around the time ESPN did a survey of a few GMs, scouts and head-coaches and found that Cutler was considered the best young QB in the league. The vitriol towards Cutler from non-Broncos fans took off from that.
4. Finally, for Dolt "fans" it was the incident from two years ago that exposed their d-bag of a QB to the rest of the league that sparked their hatred for Cutler.
In short, every reason except his play on the field.
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Originally posted by Breezer View PostWhy does he get such a bad rap about his interceptions? Have you all forgotten how many interceptions Elway through? I did a little research and came up with this....
Cutler averages 1 interception thrown per game.
Elway averaged .97 interceptions thrown per game.
Plummer averaged 1.2 interceptions thrown per game.
Griese averages 1.1 interceptions thrown per game.
If you ask me, he isn't any worse than these former Broncos QBs at tossing interceptions, and none of them ever passed for over 4500 yards!
Elway was the man, but Cutler is damn good too! He deserves some respect.
Elway was no saint when it came to INT's and only really improved that at the end of his career.
PS. Averaging one INT a game is terrible.
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Originally posted by mx_stiles13 View PostElway had average offensive talent around him for the longest time.
Cutler makes mistakes with great receiving targets and a top pass blocking offensive line. He doesn't distribute the ball as much as he should.
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