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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4668245

    ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- The ligaments in Kyle Orton's left ankle are torn. He certainly isn't.

    Orton adamantly wants to start Sunday against San Diego and help the Denver Broncos snap out of a monthlong funk that has wiped out their 3½-game cushion over the Chargers in the AFC West.

    Plus, how can he convince the front office that he should be in the team's long-term plans if he's standing on the sideline sending in signals instead of running Josh McDaniels' offense?

    Orton, in the final year of a contract that pays him a relatively paltry $1 million, has played through enough leg injuries to know it's not wise to rush back into action before he's healthy.

    He just wasn't the same quarterback in Chicago after spraining his other ankle midway through last season. His interceptions piled up, his passer ratings plummeted and he never rediscovered the touch he had early in the season after he was carted off the field with a sprained ankle against Detroit on Nov. 2.

    Eventually, the Bears soured on Orton and sent him and a bevy of draft picks to Denver for Jay Cutler.

    Still, his defiance was palpable Wednesday before he sat out practice.

    "I came back last year as soon as I could and I'll do the same thing this year," Orton said.

    He acknowledged, however, that he rushed back into action last season after sitting out one game. He suffered through a 37-3 loss at Green Bay upon his hasty return, commencing a spiral that ended his tenure in Chicago.

    "I wasn't even close for the Green Bay game," Orton admitted. "That's just how it is. I don't know if anybody is feeling 100 percent right now on our team. It's been a physical season and I'm no different."

    So, his mindset is he's the starter unless and until McDaniels decides by week's end that backup Chris Simms is.

    "I'll come back as fast as I can and try to lead the football team and try to be in the huddle just like everybody else," Orton said. "In this sport you've got to play when you are dinged up and the quarterback is no different."

    Besides, Orton said, this injury isn't anything like the one he had a year ago with the Bears.

    "A different foot and a different deal. So, it's different," he insisted. "It's not the same foot or the same type of thing. I played with leg injuries in the past. I hope I can do it this time.

    "You know, last year was so tough because it was pushing off and that was my back leg, so that was tough. This will present a different challenge, I'm sure, but we'll see if I can play through it."

    The Broncos, trying to avoid becoming just the third team in the Super Bowl era to miss the playoffs after winning its first six games, will either send out a quarterback with a puffy ankle to face an improved Chargers pass-rush or one who hasn't started a game since 2006.

    Simms, a left-hander, unlike Orton, took the snaps with the starters at practice Wednesday.

    Simms is the quarterback best known for having his spleen removed after taking a beating in a loss to Carolina on Sept. 24, 2006, while he was playing for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

    He hasn't started a game since that day, although he did start the second half at Washington last week after Orton was hurt on the Broncos' final play from scrimmage before halftime.

    Simms was rusty, completing just three passes for 13 yards in 13 attempts in his first extended action since undergoing emergency surgery to remove his spleen three years ago.

    "I'm sure that if you look at career statistics of guys coming in the middle of the game as the backup quarterback, I'm sure they're not through the roof," Simms said.

    Some snaps with the starters will get his rhythm back, suggested Simms, who has started 16 games in six seasons.

    "A few reps will definitely help things out," he said.

    Against the Redskins, Simms either fired passes over the heads of his flustered wide receivers Brandon Marshall, Eddie Royal and Jabar Gaffney or bounced balls at their feet.

    "I think the biggest thing is getting my eyes right and really just getting timing and rhythm down with the guys," Simms said. "I will get as greased up as I can, and if Kyle is ready to go then it will be all for naught."

    Marshall also missed practice Wednesday. The team said he had a neck injury.
    Lol the Associated Press acts like it was nothing. I'm surprised this isn't a huge headline, unless the report is inaccurate.

    I really hope it's inaccurate. Remember how poorly Kyle Orton played last year after his ankle injury?

    EDIT:

    Rotoworld and ESPN made it sound like it was a horribly serious injury, but after doing some research:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprained_ankle

    A sprained ankle, also known as an ankle sprain, twisted ankle, rolled ankle, ankle injury or ankle ligament injury, is a common medical condition where one or more of the ligaments of the ankle is torn or partially torn.
    Nothing to see here guys...

    Sorry :salute!:
    Last edited by getlynched47; 11-19-2009, 05:13 PM.


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    Well...there goes our season.

    EDIT: Thanks for the article. Atleast he's not ruled out for the season...you scared me.
    Last edited by COBronc78; 11-18-2009, 09:15 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by COBronc78 View Post
      Well...there goes our season.

      EDIT: Thanks for the article. Atleast he's not ruled out for the season...you scared me.
      Dude rotoworld scared the crap out of me:

      The Associated Press reports that Kyle Orton, who sat out practice on Wednesday, has torn ligaments in his ankle.
      The good news is Orton's injury is to his left ankle; his right was the problematic joint in 2008. Orton, in a contract year, "adamantly" wants to start against San Diego, and the Broncos' coaching staff is surely with him after seeing Chris Simms complete 3-of-13 passes for 13 yards in the second half of last week's loss to the Redskins. Look for Orton to play Sunday, but he won't be close to 100 percent.


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      • #4
        NOooooooooooooooo. Get better orton please
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        • #5
          Im not so sure about this report because a torn ligament would make it a grade 3 sprain and I just didnt see the type of pain from Orton that comes with a fully torn ligament. This guy was walking the sideline the entire second half and since a fully torn ligament would cause severe instability (meaning he wouldnt be able to stand or walk on it ) so I would rule out a fully torn ligament

          Now I could believe it was a grade 2 sprain which is a partially or slightly torn ligament but no stability issues which is why he was able to walk and stand on it in the second half. If they can get the swelling down and he can play with the pain he will wear a regular hightop cleat and play .

          Apparently on almost all ankle sprains there is some sort of tearing of the ligament even if its microscopic .

          The most important thing is to get swelling reduced and then see where he stands pain wise .
          "(Touchdowns) are the goal," Orton said. "You can run for as many yards as you want, throw for as many yards as you want, but you have to convert to seven points. I think we're going to be explosive, be dynamic, be versatile."

          "Perception is everything in this league, and a lot of times, unless you're a self-promoter, it can become negative," - Kyle Orton

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          • #6
            This is AWFUL news. In order for us to make playoffs I really do believe we will need Orton. This is awful, hopefully it is a false report.

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            • #7
              uhg marshall sat out too. I had a good feeling about this game but I don't know anymore. Marshall needs his reps with simms. He's one of the only people who can save simms.

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              • #8
                Its all about hiding your hand before a huge divisional game! Orton will play... We can all hope!

                If not, I sure hope they can whip up a gameplan within Simm's ability and get the T.O.P locked up by rotating the backs. I think we will see Hillis gear up this week and be the 3rd down and goaline guy he was born to be. Its all about the D standing tall and the O eating up the clock.

                I'm not panicking yet, who would of thought we would start off 6 n 0?

                I expect them to run threw the gates ready to show the doughters whats up, for the 2nd time this season!

                Bring on sunday and get well soon Orton, we need ya buddy!
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                • #9
                  crap salad.... quick everyone bet on the chargers to win before las vegas adjusts the lines! lol

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                  • #10
                    Sprain ='s torn/stretched ligament
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                      • #12
                        Anyone with common knowledge of sports injuries should know they are just useing big words for a mild sprain. Kyle still plays Sunday

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                        • #13
                          I'm really annoyed that Simms didn't take any responsibility and made excuses..seriously? he's actually making excuses like that?..way to act like a pro..

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                          • #14
                            Rotoworld and ESPN made it sound like it was a horribly serious injury, but after doing some research:

                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprained_ankle

                            A sprained ankle, also known as an ankle sprain, twisted ankle, rolled ankle, ankle injury or ankle ligament injury, is a common medical condition where one or more of the ligaments of the ankle is torn or partially torn.
                            Nothing to see here guys...

                            Sorry :salute!:


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by HarlemHeat View Post
                              I'm really annoyed that Simms didn't take any responsibility and made excuses..seriously? he's actually making excuses like that?..way to act like a pro..
                              The more curious aspect was were he talked like there was no doubt he would be play against San Diego. Number one he was assuming Orton wouldn't play. Number two he was assuming he would play if Orton couldn't go.

                              Both parts seem odd to me. But assuming Orton wouldn't play sticks out for me.

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