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  • BroncoKing
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    Originally posted by andrewmlb View Post
    Not to burst your bubble, but McD has made mistakes.
    Did I say he didn't? Nope I didn't! The problem is, your second question was a loaded one! Basically saying that if we let Marshall go, it would be a mistake and (based off the poll) we won't win games unless we have him!

    Sorry but I'm used to these kinds of games. After all, I deal with them daily!

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  • andrewmlb
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    Originally posted by BroncoKing View Post
    Now that is a loaded question, at least the second one is! As to the first, Yes! He is the head coach. He has the bigger picture where we don't!
    Not to burst your bubble, but McD has made mistakes.

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  • BroncoKing
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    Originally posted by PowderAddict View Post
    When people are talking about integrity in the NFL, mostly they are referring to their work ethic, and locker room presence, and ability to just stay off the police blotters on their off time.

    I don't think anyone expects them to be saints, just dedicated professional who do a reletively good job of keeping their noses clean.


    Thank you PowderAddict!

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  • PowderAddict
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    Originally posted by andrewmlb View Post
    You could say the same thing about Jerry Rice.
    Yup. I'd take one of him too over a "talented" guy like Marshall

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  • BroncoKing
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    Originally posted by andrewmlb View Post
    So you just assume that no matter what McD decides, its the best for the team? So because he is the HC, he doesn't make wrong decisions?
    Now that is a loaded question, at least the second one is! As to the first, Yes! He is the head coach. He has the bigger picture where we don't!

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  • PowderAddict
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    Originally posted by Trench777 View Post
    Hahahah..."integrity, morality, character". What quaint notions. I'm assuming you own a television set & tune into prime time TV periodically. Surely then you know, there is no such thing as a "moral standard" in America. Morality in 2010 equals: "I didnt deficate in your living room after I stole your bigscreen, W-T-F is your problem?".

    You are honestly going to try to place ATHLETES under a moral microscope & expect them to live up to some preconceived idea of an ethical standard when society excuses immorality/amorality/lack of character/zero integrity in our "LEADERS"?!? (Bush/Obama/whatever P.O.S. administration slithers in next, chose your devil).

    Good luck with that.

    These barely-out-of-college men-children are products of our society. Morality, integrity, character in the classic sense is the RARE exception, not the rule.

    Feel free to just see this as my opinion, if it makes you feel better.

    T777
    When people are talking about integrity in the NFL, mostly they are referring to their work ethic, and locker room presence, and ability to just stay off the police blotters on their off time.

    I don't think anyone expects them to be saints, just dedicated professional who do a relatively good job of keeping their noses clean.
    Last edited by PowderAddict; 01-11-2010, 11:27 AM.

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  • andrewmlb
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    Originally posted by PowderAddict View Post
    He was never the fastest, tallest, or strongest WR in the NFL. So compared to the top physical talent in the NFL, then yes, he lacks talent.:
    You could say the same thing about Jerry Rice.

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  • andrewmlb
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    Originally posted by BroncoKing View Post
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    As to the question, I honestly don't care. I want what is best for the team! If that means Marshall has to go then he goes.
    So you just assume that no matter what McD decides, its the best for the team? So because he is the HC, he doesn't make wrong decisions?

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  • PowderAddict
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    Originally posted by MileHigh4TW View Post
    He lacks talent..? News to me..
    He was never the fastest, tallest, or strongest WR in the NFL. So compared to the top physical talent in the NFL, then yes, he lacks talent. Just like Eddie Mac

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  • BroncoKing
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    Originally posted by andrewmlb View Post
    Ok, would you prefer for us to resign him or trade him?
    Well if you were an athlete then you do realize that to truly perform at one's best, you need to be inspired. It does not matter at what level either. A true leader inspires his ball club! Look at Dawkins! He's a great athlete and is a leader of team! Marshall is a great athlete but is no leader. Don't give me that **** about money for "the love of money is the root of all evil". That is all that Marshall cares about.

    As to the question, I honestly don't care. I want what is best for the team! If that means Marshall has to go then he goes.

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  • Trench777
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    Hahahah..."integrity, morality, character". What quaint notions. I'm assuming you own a television set & tune into prime time TV periodically. Surely then you know, there is no such thing as a "moral standard" in America. Morality in 2010 equals: "I didnt deficate in your living room after I stole your bigscreen, W-T-F is your problem?".

    You are honestly going to try to place ATHLETES under a moral microscope & expect them to live up to some preconceived idea of an ethical standard when society excuses immorality/amorality/lack of character/zero integrity in our "LEADERS"?!? (Bush/Obama/whatever P.O.S. administration slithers in next, chose your devil).

    Good luck with that.

    These barely-out-of-college men-children are products of our society. Morality, integrity, character in the classic sense is the RARE exception, not the rule.

    Feel free to just see this as my opinion, if it makes you feel better.

    T777

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  • andrewmlb
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    Originally posted by BroncoKing View Post
    You never were an athlete were you?

    Yes, for 11 years.

    Would I be upset if he re-signs? No but then, you never did ask me that question.
    Ok, would you prefer for us to resign him or trade him?

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  • BroncoKing
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    Originally posted by andrewmlb View Post
    Professional athletes don't need to be inspired by their teammates. This isn't high school. They know how to get ready to play and perform.
    You never were an athlete were you?

    As far as being a distraction, wouldn't you say the head coach has done a pretty good job of being a distraction too?
    Actually no! You see, unlike you, I do my best to look at the big picture. When you have distractions, like scheffler and Marshall, you deal with them. If you can't deal with them privately (as we have seen with Marshall), call them out in public! Sometimes you just have no choice! I can use personal experiences to prove my point but it would be lost on this crowd. All you see is talent but forgetting that a true pro athlete puts team first and himself second. Marshall puts himself first and team second! That is not being a true professional athlete!

    It also seemed like brandon was the only one who spoke like an adult at the end of the season. His answers were about being a good teammate and respect his coaches.
    He knows he's in the dog house for pissing off the captains and veterans. I'm not buying his act! He's not a professional athlete but an insecure person! Would I be upset if he re-signs? No but then, you never did ask me that question.

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  • MileHigh4TW
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    Originally posted by PowderAddict View Post
    You mean like Rod Smith?

    Yeah, give me one of those!
    He lacks talent..? News to me..

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  • andrewmlb
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    Originally posted by BroncoKing View Post
    I don't know about that! Sure you have to have production on the field but if you can't inspire your teammates, then you are not an asset to the team! Brandon Marshall is not an asset to this team because he does not inspire and is a distraction. I guess you missed the fact that his own captains and veterans wanted him benched!
    Professional athletes don't need to be inspired by their teammates. This isn't high school. They know how to get ready to play and perform.

    As far as being a distraction, wouldn't you say the head coach has done a pretty good job of being a distraction too? It also seemed like brandon was the only one who spoke like an adult at the end of the season. His answers were about being a good teammate and respect his coaches.

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