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  • Originally posted by topscribe View Post
    So you think your commentary is superior to that?

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    My "commentary" is simply facts. Which is what scouting is notoriously devoid of. These are the same scouts who thought our buddy JaMarcus should be #1 overall and that Brady had a "weak arm". NFL scouting is a running joke.

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    • Originally posted by The Big D View Post
      If you actually look at the Florida play book, you'll find there are NUMEROUS reads of all parts of the defense. Your posts make me think you know nada about football, or at least about how the Florida O worked.
      And none of them are reading coverages. You say that like you have access to the Florida playbook and can actually decipher what it all means.

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      • Originally posted by The Big D View Post
        No he didn't. Not only did he have a lower QB rating, Orton FAILED TO SCORE POINTS. If you look in the rulebook, you'll find that it's hard to win if you don't score. And scoring is where Orton sucks.
        And you just ignored everything else I said.

        And you, once again, neglected to mention the team.

        I'm not letting you get away with that. I'm calling you on that every time.

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        • Originally posted by The Big D View Post
          My "commentary" is simply facts. Which is what scouting is notoriously devoid of. These are the same scouts who thought our buddy JaMarcus should be #1 overall and that Brady had a "weak arm". NFL scouting is a running joke.
          So you've never had a player you liked before the draft not pan out? Scouting is a calculated risk, it's not going to be 100% all the time. And you still haven't stated any facts, just opinions you claim to be facts

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          • Originally posted by beastlyskronk View Post
            So it's bull to say that the offense doesn't require the QB to read coverages?
            No, the point is that Tebow has already been reading coverages for years.

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            • http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...im-tebow_N.htm

              But in spread offenses, quarterbacks almost "are puppets on the field," Jaworski says. They are not required to read defensive coverage or change plays on offense.

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              • Originally posted by The Big D View Post
                My "commentary" is simply facts. Which is what scouting is notoriously devoid of. These are the same scouts who thought our buddy JaMarcus should be #1 overall and that Brady had a "weak arm". NFL scouting is a running joke.
                If you want to represent you posts as facts, then you provide some legitimate
                documentation and represent it honestly. To date, you have not done that.

                And Brady does not have an especially strong arm. Manning and Orton both have
                stronger arms, and Plummer's was just as strong.

                And the whole league had a high opinion of Russell back then. If you disagreed,
                then let's see a time-stamped post of yours saying so. If you can't, then you
                have no basis to say anything about it.

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                • Originally posted by The Big D View Post
                  No, the point is that Tebow has already been reading coverages for years.
                  Find me one source that says he has

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                  • Originally posted by beastlyskronk View Post
                    So you've never had a player you liked before the draft not pan out? Scouting is a calculated risk, it's not going to be 100% all the time. And you still haven't stated any facts, just opinions you claim to be facts
                    Stats are a MUCH better predictor of NFL success than scouting. Scouting is not a calculated risk - it's a proven failure.

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                    • Originally posted by beastlyskronk View Post
                      Find me one source that says he has
                      45 games worth of Florida film. You're making a VERY lame argument.

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                      • Originally posted by The Big D View Post
                        Stats are a MUCH better predictor of NFL success than scouting. Scouting is not a calculated risk - it's a proven failure.
                        Stats are a terrible indicator of how good a player will be in the NFL. Jamarcus Russell had good stats in college, he isn't a good QB. Matt Cassell had no stats in college, but he's an average starting QB right now

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                        • Exactly . . .

                          Originally posted by beastlyskronk View Post
                          Stats are a terrible indicator of how good a player will be in the NFL. Jamarcus Russell had good stats in college, he isn't a good QB. Matt Cassell had no stats in college, but he's an average starting QB right now
                          QBs who had good stats in college:

                          Steve Spurrier (Heisman Trophy winner)
                          JaMarcus Russell
                          Alex Smith
                          Tim Couch
                          Ryan Leaf
                          Tommy Maddox

                          (Among others)

                          How did that work out?

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                          • Originally posted by The Big D View Post
                            This is nonsensical - Orton is failing horribly to score in this offense, which I noticed is the one stat you DIDN'T post despite being in the end almost the only thing that mattered. So let's look at that. In 2006 (Brady's worst year in this O) the Pats average 24.1 points of offense per game, 7th in the league.

                            With Cassel in 2008, they averaged 25.6, good for 8th in the league. In 2009, Orton managed 20.5, good for 20th in the league. Stands out like a sore thumb, doesn't it?

                            Orton is in fact the worst this offense has ever been run. Remember, this is the best offensive scheme the NFL has ever seen - the offense that put up something like 37 points per game in 2007. The problem is simply that Orton can't get the job done.
                            So now its about the points thats not what you said again you are backtracking and changing the subject

                            YOU SAID

                            Originally posted by The Big D
                            last year was the absolute worst McD has ever seen his offense run. Even Cassel, who last started at QB in high school, ran it better.
                            In 2006(Brady) The Pats had 20 rushing tds

                            In 2008(Cassell) The Pats had 21 rushing tds

                            In 2009(Orton) The Broncos had 9 rushing tds




                            Again you backtrack and and try and change the subject after being owned and you just get further owned.

                            You are proving time and time again that the majority of stuff you post is ridiculous and is only intended to flame and disrupt threads .

                            Ill be waiting for your response In which Im sure will now involve you changing the subject to something else .
                            "(Touchdowns) are the goal," Orton said. "You can run for as many yards as you want, throw for as many yards as you want, but you have to convert to seven points. I think we're going to be explosive, be dynamic, be versatile."

                            "Perception is everything in this league, and a lot of times, unless you're a self-promoter, it can become negative," - Kyle Orton

                            Kyle Orton Army member #83 :logo: :smug:

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                            • Originally posted by beastlyskronk View Post
                              Jamarcus Russell had good stats in college, he isn't a good QB.
                              No he didn't - Russel had mediocre stats against weak opposition. You obviously haven't looked into this very deeply.

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                              • Originally posted by topscribe View Post
                                QBs who had good stats in college:

                                Steve Spurrier (Heisman Trophy winner)
                                JaMarcus Russell
                                Alex Smith
                                Tim Couch
                                Ryan Leaf
                                Tommy Maddox

                                (Among others)

                                How did that work out?

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                                Originally posted by The Big D View Post
                                No he didn't - Russel had mediocre stats against weak opposition. You obviously haven't looked into this very deeply.

                                You just ignore what you can't answer, don't you?

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