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  • All right, so who is the collegiate prospect that we've seen before that most resembles Tim Tebow? I'd love to hear it.

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    • Originally posted by jakemcclain View Post
      I'd love to sit down and have a glass of milk with Tebow.
      haha that cracked me up! Milk...so pure just like Tebow!
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      • Originally posted by Dream View Post
        All right, so who is the collegiate prospect that we've seen before that most resembles Tim Tebow? I'd love to hear it.
        I don't remember.

        That's the point.






        "We've never seen anything like this before" is something we hear about at least three or four times each season though.

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        • Originally posted by Alastor View Post
          I don't remember.

          That's the point.






          "We've never seen anything like this before" is something we hear about at least three or four times each season though.
          You don't remember because there hasn't been one. The QBs you listed (except for Leaf) were all similar, archetypal, option QBs. They were fast, elusive runners with limited to virtually no power running the ball. If anyone said they hadn't seen a player like Vick before they were morons. He plays almost exactly like Randall Cunningham (though Cunningham was a better passer, and Vick is a little bit better athlete). There was also Kordell Stewart...

          Beyond that, this isn't about Tebow as a starting QB. It's about his potential in short yardage situations. Tebow is unique in his skill-set as a short yardage runner at the QB position. You honestly don't get that?
          Only fools bet against Tim Tebow.

          Team Tebow #108

          Yards, without points, mean nothing.

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          • I really don't think there has been anybody like Tim Tebow before.

            Everybody is going to remember Tim Tebow even if he is a huge flop because he's Tim Tebow. He's so different from others. Nobody has ever combined all of the things that he has.

            You bring up people like Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith etc. as examples, but we actually remember them because they came in with such promise because of their attributes and what they did in the college game, and while they have busted, we remember them because they were so hyped.

            There has never been a college player like Tebow, because if there was, he would have been equally hyped, and we would have remembered him.

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            • No, it isn't the point. If you can't name a comparison to a player like him, then your statement is irrelevant. The fact that you don't know one probably shows how unique Tebow is. So I'm asking you again, name a player from college football in the past several years who has came out at his position that he bears similarity to?

              I've been watching college football and evaluating the draft for a long time. I don't think there has ever been a prospect with Tebow's unique skillset and pedigree enter the NFL. Why else would there be all the hype around him? He exceeded at a prolific level in one of the toughest conferences in college football. He completed an insane amount of his passes, and had a tremendous TD-to-INT ratio. He also had a penchant for making plays on his feet. Heisman Trophy winner. Multiple National Championships, IIRC.

              There has got to be some name you can throw out there, right?

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              • We've never seen anything like this:

                Vince Young
                Michael Vick
                Roy Williams
                Ricky Williams
                Randy Moss
                Terrel Owens
                Akili Smith
                Charles Rogers
                Jamarcus Russel
                Joey Harrington
                Alex Smith
                Mike Williams (offensive tackle)
                Mike Williams (wide receiver)
                David Carr
                David Terrel
                Courtney Brown - remember him? On our team after washing out in Cleveland.
                Dwayne Robinson
                Reggie Williams
                Ryan Simms
                Peter Warrick
                Jamal Anderson
                Robert Gallery

                We hear it all the time.

                And then we forget.

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                • Originally posted by Hoserman117 View Post
                  I really don't think there has been anybody like Tim Tebow before.
                  Has there been someone specifically like Tebow before? Maybe not.

                  But we've seen a lot of "There's never been anything like <insert player here> before."

                  Again, that's the point.

                  They're all unique, and we'd never seen anything like them.

                  Nor have we since. For good reason.

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                  • Originally posted by Hoserman117 View Post
                    There has never been a college player like Tebow, because if there was, he would have been equally hyped, and we would have remembered him.
                    The closest prospect I can think of would be Vick just because they were both left-handed, dangerous on the throw and run and extremely lethal options inside the 20. The difference is that Vick was a low-efficiency passer for his two years at Virginia Tech, while Tebow posted some of the greatest efficiency numbers in college football history at his position.

                    I guess somebody could toss out the names of former college quarterbacks who were often considered to raw to attempt the position in the pros and had to switch positions. Probably wouldn't be apt comparisons though.

                    I'm with you and Horsey, Tebow is an enigma all of his own. Perhaps the greatest, most intruiging player to ever dawn an NCAA uniform. Many have came before him, but not many, if any, were like him at all. He truly has the ability to be something special based on his pedigree, work ethic and intangibles.

                    I was confused with the pick, quite angry with it, but the more you learn about Tebow and know, the more you have faith that he can do some things we haven't seen in a long time with the Broncos.

                    Here's to hoping.

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                    • Originally posted by Alastor View Post
                      We've never seen anything like this:

                      Vince Young
                      Michael Vick
                      Roy Williams
                      Ricky Williams
                      Randy Moss
                      Terrel Owens
                      Akili Smith
                      Charles Rogers
                      Jamarcus Russel
                      Joey Harrington
                      Alex Smith
                      Mike Williams (offensive tackle)
                      Mike Williams (wide receiver)
                      David Carr
                      David Terrel
                      Courtney Brown - remember him? On our team after washing out in Cleveland.
                      Dwayne Robinson
                      Reggie Williams
                      Ryan Simms
                      Peter Warrick
                      Jamal Anderson
                      Robert Gallery

                      We hear it all the time.

                      And then we forget.
                      What does this have to do with Tebow? Because certain players have been (spuriously) hyped as unique, means Tebow isn't? That's some weak logic Alastor.
                      Only fools bet against Tim Tebow.

                      Team Tebow #108

                      Yards, without points, mean nothing.

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                      • Originally posted by Alastor View Post
                        We've never seen anything like this:

                        Vince Young
                        Michael Vick
                        Roy Williams
                        Ricky Williams
                        Randy Moss
                        Terrel Owens
                        Akili Smith
                        Charles Rogers
                        Jamarcus Russel
                        Joey Harrington
                        Alex Smith
                        Mike Williams (offensive tackle)
                        Mike Williams (wide receiver)
                        David Carr
                        David Terrel
                        Courtney Brown - remember him? On our team after washing out in Cleveland.
                        Dwayne Robinson
                        Reggie Williams
                        Ryan Simms
                        Peter Warrick
                        Jamal Anderson
                        Robert Gallery

                        We hear it all the time.

                        And then we forget.

                        Well, besides getting a majority of their names wrong -- you don't have any evidence to back the claim up that people were stating, "We've never seen these kind of players before." -- Of course we have, which is why a majority of those players were paralleled and compared to other existing NFL players. Non-sequitur of the day.

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                        • Originally posted by DancingHorsey View Post
                          What does this have to do with Tebow? Because certain players have been (spuriously) hyped as unique, means Tebow isn't? That's some weak logic Alastor.
                          It doesn't have anything to do with Tebow. Glad you caught that too. It was a red herring and a non-sequitur wrapped into one. If you throw enough names out there at a wall, one would hope something would stick. Too bad the names and logic don't follow. Basically we're just witnessing Alastor grasping at straws because he doesn't want to admit that he is wrong.

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                          • Originally posted by Dream View Post
                            The closest prospect I can think of would be Vick just because they were both left-handed, dangerous on the throw and run and extremely lethal options inside the 20. The difference is that Vick was a low-efficiency passer for his two years at Virginia Tech, while Tebow posted some of the greatest efficiency numbers in college football history at his position.
                            And as I've said, their running styles are night and day, so even that comparison is a bit of a stretch.

                            Steve Young is probably the closest to Tebow that I can think of. Once again though there are some significant differences in their play styles.
                            Only fools bet against Tim Tebow.

                            Team Tebow #108

                            Yards, without points, mean nothing.

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                            • Originally posted by Dream View Post
                              All right, so who is the collegiate prospect that we've seen before that most resembles Tim Tebow? I'd love to hear it.
                              Steve McNair might be close. I would give the edge in passing to McNair and edge in rushing to Tebow.

                              McNair college stats..passing ..14496 yards/119 TDs...rushing...2237 yards/33TDs

                              Tebow college stats...passing..9285 yards/88 TDs..rushing...2947 yards/57 TDs


                              McNair total yards....16733/152 TDs
                              Tebow totals............12232/145 TDs
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                              • Originally posted by DancingHorsey View Post
                                And as I've said, their running styles are night and day, so even that comparison is a bit of a stretch.

                                Steve Young is probably the closest to Tebow that I can think of. Once again though there are some significant differences in their play styles.
                                I've even heard some people mention Fran Tarkenton as a possible comparison, but he was well before my time so I couldn't speak much for it -- but a lot of die hard Vikings fans I know who are older seem to think it's a decent one to make, based on their efficiency as passers and ability to scramble.

                                Either way, I'm not worried about the comparisons, and I doubt Tebow is either. He's going to work his butt off and make a name for himself here just like he did in all levels of football he played in prior. Can't wait to see him start here as soon as possible.

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