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  • #16
    Scouting report on Mays

    A powerfully built linebacker known for his outstanding performances in the training room and bone-jarring hits on the playing field, Joe Mays has the ability to generate explosion on contact and has had good success dislodging the ball from ballcarriers during his three years as a starter.

    The 2007 Great West Football Conference Defensive Player of the Year has always been a tremendous hitter who turns heads with his "de-cleater" tackles. He has excellent quickness for his size and was the unquestioned defensive leader in the middle of the field. He has solid football instincts and is always around the action.

    Mays was a standout linebacker at Hyde Park High School, where he was a two-time first- team All-Conference performer and a first team All-City selection for head coach Wesley Yates. He recorded 115 tackles his senior season, including 16 sacks and had a pair of interceptions. He also produced 110 tackles his junior campaign.

    Mays enrolled at North Dakota State in 2003, spending the season with the scout team. He played in 11 games as a reserve inside linebacker and special-teamer in 2004. That season, he registered 45 tackles (28 solo) with three sacks and five stops for losses.

    Mays earned first-team All-Great West Football Conference honors from the media and was chosen to Football Gazette's All-Region second-team in 2005. He took over middle linebacker chores, pacing the Bison with 83 tackles (48 solo). He added four sacks, 10.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage and eight pressures. He also picked off three passes and caused two fumbles.

    The North Dakota State middle linebacker was limited at midseason by a groin injury, but still tied for the team lead with 67 tackles (38 solo) in 2006. He was again named to the All-GWFC first-team, as he had two sacks, five stops for losses and a forced fumble. He also broke up three passes.

    The Great West Football Conference Defensive Player of the Year received All-American honors as a senior in 2007. He sat out the Southern Utah game with a hip strain, but still led the team with a career-high 90 tackles (45 solo), including 2.5 sacks and nine stops for minus-32 yards. He deflected six passes and gained 49 yards on two kickoff returns.

    Mays started 31 of 43 games at North Dakota State, recording 285 total tackles and a school-record 159 solo hits. He had 11 sacks for minus-90 yards, 29.5 stops for losses of 131 yards and 12 quarterback pressures. He caused four fumbles, batted down 11 passes and intercepted three others for 29 yards in returns. He also gained 53 yards on three kickoff returns (17.7-yard average).

    Career Notes: Mays' 159 solo tackles set the school career-record, topping the previous mark of 134 by safety Craig Dahl (2003-06) ... Led the team in tackles in from 2005-07 (tied in 2006), joining Sean Fredricks (1995-97) as the only players in school history to lead the Bison in tackles three times in a career.

    High School: Attended Hyde Park (Chicago, Ill.) Career Academy High School, playing football for head coach Wesley Yates ... Two-time first-team All-Conference performer and a first team All-City selection ... Recorded 115 tackles his senior season, including 16 sacks and had a pair of interceptions ... Produced 110 tackles his junior campaign.

    Positives: Lacks height, but has impressive upper-body muscle structure (sometimes gets too muscular), thick chest, broad shoulders, thick thighs and calves ... Best flowing down the line and making plays on the move ... Impact hitter on initial contact, showing good balance and adequate body control, sinking his weight properly to drive through the ballcarrier ... Gets his teammates lined up, but is better reading keys on run plays than when working in the zone ... Fires low off the snap and is combative with his hands in attempts to shed and split double teams ... Has a low center of gravity to get under the pads of a lead blocker to clog the rush lane ... Comes out of his stance and attacks the ballcarrier with good force and has the hand strength to dislodge the ball from the opponent ... Brings his hips and drives hard with his legs to impede the forward progress of a ballcarrier ... Good at stacking and controlling multiple blockers, which frees up his outside linebackers to make the play ... Stays on his feet well, fighting throughout when working in traffic ... Shows good leverage ability taking on offensive linemen ... Solid wrapup tackler who will generally bring his man down once he gets a piece of the opponent ... Reacts quickly and attacks runners when he sees the cutback lanes developing ... Not the greatest, but can get decent pass depth in the short area ... More of a bull rusher than a pass rusher, but has a good concept for taking angles that shorten his path to the quarterback ... Has better vision on running plays, as he has that explosive initial step shooting the gaps ... In pass coverage, he is capable of sticking to tight ends and slot backs -- not speed receivers -- as uses his hands to reroute.

    Compares To: London Fletcher-Washington ... Similar in size, their playing strength is the most impressive common trait between these 'backers. Mays looks like he could relieve Charles Atlas from holding the world on his shoulders, but that physique has also led to change-of-direction issues, as he sometimes gets overmuscular, looking stiff in his movements, especially when chasing down plays on the outside. Even if used only as a two-down performer, he could bring nice value late in the draft.

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    • #17
      I honestly like the trade. Must mean that some of the younger RB's are looking good and that Cox/McKinley/Royal definitely have the return duties under control.

      We also had terrible depth at TED LB behind Haggan (basically zero depth) so I think Mays should get some good playing time this year.

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      • #18
        This makes some good sense to me. Arrington didn't cost us a thing and was basically unneeded, so trading him for anyone of potential value seems good.

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        • #19
          Arrington would have been injured by game 3 anyways so I'd say decent move, take nothing and turn it into something. Worst case scenario Mays is camp bait and we cut him.
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          • #20
            I like the move. I was never a big fan of Arrington anyway. Maybe Baker or Ball have looked good in camp. Either way Mays has looked good on film in ST. He is a big hitter and provides good depth behind Haggan and Ayodele.
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            • #21
              I don't know if this was posted....Here is a scouting video on Mays.....maybe he can learn a thing or two from Doom, if he switches to the outside, since they are both shorter guys. I'm sure he doesn't have the speed or coverage abilities for the outside, but you never know.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW98PdZuX7Q
              Last edited by Jack-o-Lantern; 07-31-2010, 08:16 AM.
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              • #22
                I don’t know how I feel possibly losing a 6th round pick if Arrington doesn’t make the Eagles roster. The Inquirer's Jeff McLane reports that the Eagles will receive a sixth-round pick in 2010 if Arrington doesn't make the roster.

                http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/m...Arrington.html

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by D# View Post
                  I don’t know how I feel possibly losing a 6th round pick if Arrington doesn’t make the Eagles roster. The Inquirer's Jeff McLane reports that the Eagles will receive a sixth-round pick in 2010 if Arrington doesn't make the roster.

                  http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/m...Arrington.html
                  I'm sure we'll get a lot of picks next year in the draft, McD is always maneuvering around in the draft

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                  • #24
                    I don't think Arrington was moved to make room for Westbrook.

                    I trhink/hope that at the rookie camp Toney Baker showed enough to make McD realize keeping the old has beens at RB is not gonna build this teams future.

                    Toney Baker is da man. Check his high light reels.
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                    • #25
                      If this works out, this could be great for both teams.

                      Mays doesn't fit with the Eagles D because he doesnt have the range needed, he can't go sideline to sideline very well. So they know they have a bargaining chip.

                      We want depth at ILB, specifically at Mario Haggan's new spot, which he fits very well into.

                      No one really knows how JJ is going to show up/play, so this will be interesting. As started before, if he doesn't pass his physical in Philly, then they get our 6th rounder in 2012.

                      But I'm hearing different things here. NFL.com is reporting that we shipped JJ away for Mays or a conditional 2012 pick, while others are reporting that we are getting Mays for JJ and a 2012 conditional. Which is correct?
                      Just a diehard Broncos Fan trying to make it living in Charger/Raider country (SoCal)

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                      • #26
                        Looks like I was right about JJ too. Bubye JJ..I knew you wouldn't be around long.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by #7Forever View Post
                          Awesome move IMO..

                          We open up room to possibly groom Baker (YOUNGER) in the backfield and lose an older rb and also get a young, fast LB to groom behing DJ or AYERS??
                          Seems like a win win move...
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by PAINTERDAVE View Post
                            I don't think Arrington was moved to make room for Westbrook.

                            I trhink/hope that at the rookie camp Toney Baker showed enough to make McD realize keeping the old has beens at RB is not gonna build this teams future.

                            Toney Baker is da man. Check his high light reels.
                            While i like toney baker, Highlight reels arent anything. You can type in any players highlight reels and its gonna look like hes a beast.

                            we didnt need 5 runningbacks. Knowshon is gonna be getting a huge roll this year and buckhalter well see less time, so i dont really think we traded arrington because somebody else was stepping up. IMO we traded him because mcd realized that we have our KR and PR under control and that we dont need 5 runningbacks.
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                            Thanks Blondie79

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