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  • Denver Secondary Dissected Individually Game by Game

    Okay, I wanted to see what General Discussions thought about these statistics:


    Here's something I have been tracking for fun, I'm sure you guys will find it at least somewhat of interest.


    The Key is as follows:

    Week, Opposing Team, Completions/Attempts, Yards, Touchdowns, Interceptions, Passes Defended.



    The following is a compilation of individual pass defense through each game of the season so far:


    CORNERBACKS:

    Champ Bailey
    Week 1, Jacksonville - 4 for 7, 68 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 2, Seattle - 1 for 3, 11 Yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 1 PD
    Week 3, Indianapolis - 4 for 7, 61 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 2 PD
    Week 4, Tennessee - 2 for 2, 15 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD

    Andre Goodman
    Week 1, Jacksonville - 0 for 1, 0 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INTs, 0 PD
    Week 2, Seattle - 2 for 4, 64 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 3, Indianapolis - DNP
    Week 4, Tennessee - DNP

    Nathan Jones
    Week 1, Jacksonville - 3 for 4, 16 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 2, Seattle - 6 for 7, 41 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 3, Indianapolis - 10 for 11, 120 Yds, 1 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 4, Tennessee - 2 for 2, 20 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD

    Perrish Cox
    Week 1, Jacksonville - No Stats
    Week 2, Seattle - 2 for 4, 27 Yds, 0 TD, 1 INT, 0 PD
    Week 3, Indianapolis - 5 for 10, 60 Yds, 2 TD, 0 INT, 4 PD
    Week 4, Tennessee - 4 for 8, 41 Yds, 1 TD, 1 PD

    Cassius Vaughn
    Week 1, Jacksonville - No Stats
    Week 2, Seattle - 1 for 3, 3 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 3, Indianapolis - No Stats
    Week 4, Tennessee - No Stats

    Syd'Quan Thompson
    Week 1, Jacksonville - DNP
    Week 2, Seattle - DNP
    Week 3, Indianapolis - DNP
    Week 4, Tennessee - No Stats


    SAFETIES

    Brian Dawkins
    Week 1, Jacksonville - 1 for 1, 24 Yds, 1 TD, 0 INT, 1 PD
    Week 2, Seattle - 1 for 4, 8 Yds, 0 TD, 1 INT, 0 PD
    Week 3, Indianapolis - 3 for 4, 48 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 4, Tennessee - 2 for 3, 17 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD

    Renaldo Hill
    Week 1, Jacksonville - 1 for 1, 10 Yds, 1 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 2, Seattle - 0 for 1, 0 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 3, Indianapolis - 3 for 3, 17 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 4, Tennessee - 0 for 2, 0 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 1 PD

    Darcel McBath
    Week 1, Jacksonville - DNP
    Week 2, Seattle - DNP
    Week 3, Indianapolis - 1 for 2, 7 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 4, Tennessee - No Stats

    David Bruton
    Week 1, Jacksonville - No Stats
    Week 2, Seattle - No Stats
    Week 3, Indianapolis - No Stats
    Week 4, Tennessee - No Stats


    LINEBACKERS

    DJ Williams
    Week 1, Jacksonville - 4 for 4, 25 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 2, Seattle - 3 for 3, 27 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 3, Indianapolis - 1 for 3, 6 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 4, Tennessee - 5 for 6, 70 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD

    Robert Ayers
    Week 1, Jacksonville - 2 for 2, 6 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 2, Seattle - 1 for 1, 7 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 3, Indianapolis - No Stats
    Week 4, Tennessee - 1 for 2, 6 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD

    Mario Haggan
    Week 1, Jacksonville - 1 for 1, 21 Yds, 1 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 2, Seattle - 3 for 5, 22 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Week 3, Indianapolis - No Stats
    Week 4, Tennessee - 0 for 1, 0 Yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD

    Jason Hunter
    Week 1, Jacksonville - No Stats
    Week 2, Seattle - No Stats
    Week 3, Indianapolis - No Stats
    Week 4, Tennessee - No Stats

    Wesley Woodyard
    Week 1, Jacksonville - DNP
    Week 2, Seattle - DNP
    Week 3, Indianapolis - DNP
    Week 4, Tennessee - DNP




    SUMMARY (Year to Date): Do Not Look if you are a fan of Nathan Jones

    CBs:
    Champ Bailey - 11 for 19, 58% Completion Rate, 155 Yds, 14.1 YPR, 1 TD, 1 INT, 4 PD
    Andre Goodman - 2 for 5, 40% Completion Rate, 64 Yds, 32.0 YPR, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Nathan Jones - 21 for 24, 88% Completion Rate, 197 Yds, 9.4 YPR, 1 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Perrish Cox - 11 for 22, 50% Completion Rate, 128 Yds, 11.6 YPR, 3 TDs, 1 INT, 5 PD
    Cassius Vaughn - 1 for 3, 33% Completion Rate, 3 Yds, 3 YPR, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Syd'Quan Thompson - No Stats

    Safeties
    Brian Dawkins - 7 for 12, 58% Completion Rate, 97 Yds, 13.9 YPR, 1 TD, 1 INT, 1 PD
    Renaldo Hill - 4 for 7, 57% Completion Rate, 27 Yds, 6.9 YPR, 1 TD, 0 INT, 1 PD
    Darcel McBath - 1 for 2, 50% Completion Rate, 7 Yds, 7.0 YPR, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    David Bruton - No Stats

    Linebackers
    DJ Williams - 13 for 16, 81% Completion Rate, 128 Yds, 9.8 YPR, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Robert Ayers - 4 for 5, 80% Completion Rate, 19 Yds, 4.8 YPR, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Mario Haggan - 4 for 7, 57% Completion Rate, 43 Yds, 10.8 YPR, 1 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD
    Jason Hunter - No Stats
    Wesley Woodyard - No Stats




    NATHAN JONES v. ALPHONSO SMITH (Year to Date)

    Clearly, Nate Jones is terrible. Almost every pass aimed towards him is completed. It's like playing with 10 men on the field. So, for fun, I decided to compare what he has done to what Alphonso Smith has done for Detroit since they were in the battle for nickel duties.

    Nate Jones - 21 for 24, 88% Completion Rate, 197 Yds, 9.4 YPR, 1 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD

    Alphonso Smith - 7 for 10, 70% Completion Rate, 101 Yds, 14.4 YPR, 0 TD, 2 INT, 0 PD


    PFF Stats:
    Alphonso Smith - 116 Snaps, 1.6 Overall, 1.8 Run Defense, 1.2 Blitz, 0.2 Coverage, -1.6 Penalty.

    Nate Jones - 149 Snaps, -0.8 Overall, -0.1 Run Defense, 0.0 Blitz, -1.4 Coverage, 0.7 Penalty.

    ESPN Stats:
    Alphonso Smith - 11 Tackles, 1 Stuff, 2 INTs, 2 PD
    Nate Jones - 19 Tackles



    So, Alphonso Smith is vastly superior to Jones, especially if you remove penalties from the equation. Than the final grades would be +3.2 Overall to -1.5 Overall. Conclusion: Giving up on Smith after 1 year was OMG*** dumb.



    Thoughts?

  • #2
    This is an excellent statistical break down. Jones is the one guy that jumped out at me when I consider who is being asked to do what in the secondary, and who is not pulling their weight.

    Another thing I noticed, is how Tennessee attacked Williams, and hopefully that doesn't become a trend.

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    • #3
      WOW... Did not realize how bad Nate Jones is....

      21 for 24, 88% Completion Rate, 197 Yds, 9.4 YPR, 1 TD, 0 INT, 0 PD

      ^^^ That is bad..... I Mean REALLY BAD..... Everyone!!! Come see how bad it is!!!!

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      • #4
        Great analysis Mug,ive noticed a lot of passes being completed on Jones in games thus far.It further leads me to believe Syd'Quan as a rookie could do no more damage than Jones is doing letting opposing teams complete over 80 percent of their passes on him,keeping drives alive most of the time.I cant wait to watch Syd get his chance whenever it happens,because i know something special is gonna happen that game.

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        • #5
          Yeah it's bad but when you get no pass rush in a game that's going to happen. I don't think I have ever seen a pass rush this bad. Plus our 2nd starting CB has been out for two games.

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          • #6
            ur statline is wrong on Champ, in Jax he had 2 pass deflections, check it out....one on Simms-Walker on a 3rd down crossing route, and the other on a nobody on like a 20 yard crossing route....2 pd's in Jax, idk bout the rest of ur stats

            but awesome stuff to break it down best you can

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            • #7
              Nice statistical breakdown, be careful comparing jones to phons tho, jones is playin the nickel on the inside while phonz has mostly been playin on the outside, the nickel is a much harder position so it's not really a fair comparison.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BroncoSexyDaddy View Post
                Great analysis Mug,ive noticed a lot of passes being completed on Jones in games thus far.It further leads me to believe Syd'Quan as a rookie could do no more damage than Jones is doing letting opposing teams complete over 80 percent of their passes on him,keeping drives alive most of the time.I cant wait to watch Syd get his chance whenever it happens,because i know something special is gonna happen that game.

                I agree that Syd'Quan should get a shot at some point. Jones hasn't been horrific outside of the Indy game, but he hasn't been effective either. I'd like to see what Syd can do. He seems destined to be a nickel back with his size and quickness.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by #24 Next Champ View Post
                  ur statline is wrong on Champ, in Jax he had 2 pass deflections, check it out....one on Simms-Walker on a 3rd down crossing route, and the other on a nobody on like a 20 yard crossing route....2 pd's in Jax, idk bout the rest of ur stats

                  but awesome stuff to break it down best you can

                  I'm pulling the data from ProFootballFocus. They supposably break down every play and record the data for each player involved. I'm sure overlooks occur though. But, I just pulled the data and then personally put it into a format that aides comparisons between the teams' D-backs and LBs. I was curious as to whom alledgedly is doing what in pass defense and then decided to share my spreadsheet.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 24fanforlife View Post
                    Nice statistical breakdown, be careful comparing jones to phons tho, jones is playin the nickel on the inside while phonz has mostly been playin on the outside, the nickel is a much harder position so it's not really a fair comparison.
                    Well, kind of. He was in the slot the first three games before taking over RCB against Green Bay for Jonathan Wade. Speculation is that he will be starting at RCB going forward due to his solid play. So, most of the stats to date are a valid comparison between nickelbacks. Going forward, yeah, it will be not be a true comparison, but Smith could have been playing for us instead of Jones. So, this is all we have to compare the two. I find it very interesting.

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                    • #11
                      MUG, I'm guessing you have PFF Premium right? If so, could you post Aso's stats?

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                      • #12
                        The whole time everyone was saying Manning was victimizing Cox, I was like "what game are u guys watching?" MANNING IS TORCHING NATE JONES....BAD ALL DAY.

                        Cox held his own for the most part even tho he got burned a few times... Jones got burned EVERY time.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan View Post
                          I'm pulling the data from ProFootballFocus. They supposably break down every play and record the data for each player involved. I'm sure overlooks occur though. But, I just pulled the data and then personally put it into a format that aides comparisons between the teams' D-backs and LBs. I was curious as to whom alledgedly is doing what in pass defense and then decided to share my spreadsheet.
                          ya bro, see that site is just hella off, they always screw it up, they had champ's stats horribly botched....2pass deflections in week1 I'm POSITIVE...for kicks tho, could u post the 1-top20 cb's or whatever on here, I'd love to see what they got

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RaiderFanSD View Post
                            MUG, I'm guessing you have PFF Premium right? If so, could you post Aso's stats?

                            He wasn't thrown at the first two games. The Cardinals completed 1 of 4 passes on him for 18 yards, he had 1 Pass Defended. At Houston, they completed 2 of 3 passes for 28 yards. He had another Pass Defended.

                            So, cumulatively, that is 3 for 7, 46 yards, 15.3 YPR, 0 TDs, 0 INTS, 2 PD. Pretty impressive.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan View Post
                              He wasn't thrown at the first two games. The Cardinals completed 1 of 4 passes on him for 18 yards, he had 1 Pass Defended. At Houston, they completed 2 of 3 passes for 28 yards. He had another Pass Defended.

                              So, cumulatively, that is 3 for 7, 46 yards, 15.3 YPR, 0 TDs, 0 INTS, 2 PD. Pretty impressive.
                              Great, thank you! cp'd

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