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    I enjoyed this article. I remember Elway and Shanny having a fallout. Can anybody shed any more light on it? Also, there's a poll so go vote!

    http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_16738959

    The savior of the Broncos in 1983 could be the best man to salvage the franchise in 2010.

    John Elway.

    Why not hire the most successful, renowned and honored player in Broncos history to a newly created position of executive vice president, football operations?

    Why not let The Duke of Denver help turn around the team that has been characterized as "a laughingstock of the NFL," the Buffalo Bills West?

    Why not now?

    Elway, according to an impeccable source, "would accept an offer to rejoin the Broncos in a full- time executive position."

    Elway and Joe Ellis, chief operating officer of the Broncos, did not comment on the possibility Monday, although there appears to be interest on both sides.

    Elway has become involved again with the Broncos this year in a marketing capacity (particularly before the game in London) and as a team motivator-adviser (particularly before the game against Kansas City).

    The Broncos have not experienced such rock-bottom plights and predicaments since 1976 and 1982.

    In '76, "The Dirty Dozen," 12 veteran players, caused a firestorm in Denver by meeting secretly with the ownership and revolting publicly against coach-general manager John Ralston, accusing him of incompetence. Ralston ended up being relieved as GM, then, shortly after, fired as coach.

    He was replaced by Fred Gehrke as general manager and Red Miller as coach, and the Broncos went to their first Super Bowl in the 1977 season.

    Five years later, when Dan Reeves was the coach (after replacing Miller), the Broncos missed the postseason for the third consecutive season (and had no playoff victories since the Super Bowl appearance). The first players' strike, of 57 days, caused the cancellation of seven games. The Broncos finished with a 2-7 record, their worst (percentage) effort in more than a decade.

    Along came John.

    The Broncos were back in the playoffs in Elway's rookie season, 1983, and played in the Super Bowl in the '86 season — and five times during his career, winning the final two. He was named the Super Bowl MVP in his final game. The Broncos have won only one postseason game post-Elway's retirement, and have failed to reach the playoffs seven times — and this will be the eighth.
    Late in Elway's career, Pat Bowlen offered him minority ownership.

    But Elway and coach Mike Shana- han — former best friends and quarterback-coach — had a personal falling out, and Elway was banned from Dove Valley, even after his selection to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

    On his 50th birthday in late June, Elway said he and the Broncos organization had reconnected, and he wanted to be more involved in the front office and also aiding coach Josh McDaniels — and eventually buying a piece of the ownership. Bowlen, through Ellis and McDaniels, welcomed Elway as an unofficial consultant. He did observe a few practices, gave some advice to the quarterbacks, met with rookie Tim Tebow and assisted the Broncos in promoting the game at Wembley Stadium.

    When I asked Elway in London what was wrong with the Broncos, he replied: "Have you got an hour?"

    Before the next game against the Chiefs, after four consecutive losses, McDaniels asked Elway to address the team at practice. He spoke about the Broncos' tradition, a winning attitude and how the players should enjoy the game.

    The Broncos played their best game in blowing out K.C.
    Yet the Broncos have reached their lowest ebb two weeks later with losses to the Chargers and the Rams and the McSpygate episode. Bowlen, Ellis and, especially, McDaniels have dipped to extremely low negative ratings, and the natives are restless, calling for the heads of everyone. The Broncos are being criticized throughout football as hopeless, hapless and clueless.

    I brought up Bill Parcells' name in my Thanksgiving mailbag. Another former coach, Bill Cowher, has been mentioned, but he ripped the Broncos on CBS on Sunday. Jon Gruden says he is not interested in coaching soon.

    Ellis told me Saturday the violation of the NFL integrity policy was not a fireable offense.

    The coach will not be relieved before the end of the season, if then, although the McDaniels Matter has taken a serious turn for the worse.

    The hiring of Elway, who remains the face of the Broncos, obviously can't solve all the ills, but his presence would have an impact on the franchise's image in the community.

    John studied NFL and college personnel with his late father, Jack, who was a scouting director with the Broncos. Elway co-owned, with Bowlen and Stan Kroenke, the defunct Colorado Crush arena league team that won the championship in 2005, and he has explored owning an NFL franchise in Los Angeles.

    Bowlen, Ellis and McDaniels were attempting Monday to figure out what to do with the Chiefs and the rest of the season.

    Elway was The Comeback King.

    The Broncos so badly need to come back.
    Last edited by acpell671; 11-30-2010, 03:48 AM.

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    So basically Pat and Joe should go kneel before the great Elway, wearing his Crown of Thorns and holding his Lombardi of course, and beg him to lead us into the light?




    I'm in! :thumb:
    #swapping

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    • #3
      Originally posted by flosstein View Post
      So basically Pat and Joe should go kneel before the great Elway, wearing his Crown of Thorns and holding his Lombardi of course, and beg him to lead us into the light?




      I'm in! :thumb:
      Lol!!!

      If anything, I think some goodwill will go a long way with the fans.

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      • #4
        Well, as usual, some nice facts from Paige, but no real insight or depth.

        I love Elway too, but this is a cute, nostalgic history lesson, not logical reasoning why Elway should be the answer to our woes.

        I hate Woody Paige.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jetrazor74 View Post
          Well, as usual, some nice facts from Paige, but no real insight or depth.

          I love Elway too, but this is a cute, nostalgic history lesson, not logical reasoning why Elway should be the answer to our woes.

          I hate Woody Paige.
          Broncos fans need hope, a reason to watch games and show up.

          Tebow won't be taking the field anytime soon.

          That leaves Elway.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by BroncFanIN View Post
            Broncos fans need hope, a reason to watch games and show up.

            Tebow won't be taking the field anytime soon.

            That leaves Elway.
            I agree. I think that's the point of the article. No, there is no depth to this article. Woody is not a meaty writer. He's entertaining.

            But the fact remains as the fans are feeling the pit of despair. Any goodwill shown by the organization will matter. Right now, even though it doesn't make any sense to let McDaniels go before the end of the season, people are holding pitchforks at the ready.

            I think they would stand down with Elway doing anything at this point... Heck, make him a fan goodwill ambassador, not that he'd be willing to take a fluff position or anything, but shoots, I would dig it.

            We've gone so far away from who we are as a team that fans are looking to identify with something. At least most fans are. I've even giggled at the Stink for GM initiative, Rod Smith for coach, etc. etc. This says that people don't know who the Broncos are anymore and are reaching out.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by flosstein View Post
              So basically Pat and Joe should go kneel before the great Elway, wearing his Crown of Thorns and holding his Lombardi of course, and beg him to lead us into the light?




              I'm in! :thumb:
              Awesome post! Im in too!
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              • #8
                i dont think this would do a whole lot, just a bunch of fans that would like to live in the past some more . . . just like the hire kubiak talk

                i dont know what all elway can do, ive never heard of him being anything more than a motivational speaker in some instances (though it worked against the chiefs)
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SBboundBRONCOS View Post
                  i dont think this would do a whole lot, just a bunch of fans that would like to live in the past some more . . . just like the hire kubiak talk

                  i dont know what all elway can do, ive never heard of him being anything more than a motivational speaker in some instances (though it worked against the chiefs)
                  Didn't he manage an arena football team? He's not devoid of any experience. He's probably got a better resume than McDaniels at running a ball club. Like I said, I don't think he's a GM or anything, but surely he's qualified for something. He's a successful businessman who's been in the NFL for a long time. He loves the city and the team... in fact I would bet a whole lot more than Josh McDaniels does.

                  I posted earlier as to why people are searching for something they can identify with. It's not because they are living in the past, it's because they don't recognize who this team is anymore.
                  Last edited by acpell671; 11-30-2010, 05:43 AM.

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                  • #10
                    I'm all for John being a minority owner, but him making any player personnel decisions is a bad, bad idea.
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                    • #11
                      John Elway, being involved would provide a spark and a level of hope that has not been seen around here in quite awhile. Even as a full time consultant, until a more permanent position came available.
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                      • #12
                        I'm curious as to what this falling out between Shanahan and Elway was, considering that at one point, they were very close and one could even say best friends.

                        Anyway, anyone that states this wouldn't work or it's simply for nostalgia needs to do some more homework. Elway has a Stanford business degree, he owned a very lucrative car dealership, ran the Crush and got them a championship 3 years into their existence, and played for FIVE Super Bowl teams. That makes him more qualified for an executive position with the Broncos than about 99% of the other executives around the NFL.

                        IMO it's a travesty that it's taken THIS long to have Elway working in ANY capacity for the Broncos.
                        Last edited by mojo0730; 11-30-2010, 06:18 AM.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mojo0730 View Post
                          I'm curious as to what this falling out between Shanahan and Elway was, considering that at one point, they were very close and one could even say best friends.
                          I was hoping that you or AC1 could take a stab at it. The two of you are pretty good at reading between the lines, respectful of fact vs. speculation with well thought out conclusions.

                          I'm glad you responded.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by acpell671 View Post
                            I was hoping that you or AC1 could take a stab at it. The two of you are pretty good at reading between the lines, respectful of fact vs. speculation with well thought out conclusions.

                            I'm glad you responded.
                            The only conclusion I can draw based on first impressions is that Elway may have been slighted because he wasn't brought in to work for the team he made famous after he retired. I know Shanahan was asked about that numerous times and his answer was always "John's busy with other ventures", but whenever Elway was asked he stated he would be happy and willing to do it.
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                            • #15
                              While we're at it, lets bring him out of retirement, let him play quarterback, become the head coach of the team, and become the general manager as well.
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