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  • #31
    Originally posted by Elway'sLegacy View Post
    I gave my opinion on Thomas during a game, got ganged up on BIG TIME for it, and eventually defended myself with an all caps "I'm not changing my opinion let it go let's move on from this topic" kind of statement. I did later in the thread defend Tebow (not Ayers) from some pretty rough customers, but that had nothing to do with my opinion on Thomas though I was called a hypocrite.

    Like I'm saying here and like I said there, I'm done with Thomas until he shows me something that makes me believe he was worth of our first pick in the draft. I'm not going to sing the praises of Thomas just because he's a player that was chosen in the 1st round. He needs to be a playmaker or at the very least reliable out there. Until then, I am not sold at on him because, let's be honest, he didn't do squat this year. Yeah, he had a 100 yard receiving game, but other than that he didn't help this team when I feel he could have.

    Just my opinion, and I stand by it.
    Haha my bad. I was trying to think, "was it Ayers, Moreno, or Tebow?"
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    • #32
      IMO when healthy, and higher on the depth chart, Thomas is going to be better than Bryant. But that's been Thomas's problem. He's too injury prone.

      good thing we have Brandon Lloyd
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Broncoholic3233 View Post
        Hahahaha. You are calling Clayton the tool when Dez Bryant is being discussed?
        Ummm, yes, because Crayton, (not Clayton) is the ex-Cowboy slinging mud in that article.

        Maybe you should have read it...
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        • #34
          I have not read all posts so forgive me if anything I post has already been discussed.

          As for the topic…Bryant vs. Thomas. Well round 1 goes to Dez Bryant (stats below).

          Thomas 2010 Stats:
          22 Receptions, 283 Yards, 12.9 Avg, 2 TD’s, 28.3 YPG.

          Bryant 2010 Stats:
          45 Receptions, 561 Yards, 12.5 Avg, 6 TD’s, 46.8 YPG.

          Call me crazy when healthy Thomas shows as much potential as Bryant…they both had injury shortened seasons. The issue with Thomas is it seems that he is injury prone. We’ll see how Thomas does over the next few years…I’m hoping he is not one of those players who never lives up to potential because of injuries.

          So long term Bryant may or may not have a better career than Thomas…but no doubt Bryant has attitude issues. If Thomas has any attitude issues I have not seen or read about them. In regards to Bryant's attitude issues well as long as it does not affect the Cowboy’s too much…then it does not matter much. I can definitely see this kid being a WR diva like T.O.

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          • #35
            Drafted right around the same time Tebow vs. Pouncey. I love me some Tebow too Teboners easy easy easy. Pouncey started from day one and is in the AFC championship. He has played extremely well. Even 50% of the Teboners will tell you you build the lines first.

            Just something else for you to wrap your head around and see if you can remove bias.
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            • #36
              This is getting repetitive lol but like most have said iffff he can stay healthy, and I believe he will, he will be a FORCE for years to come, I guarentee it...because he will warrant two defenders at all times, a safety will always need to be behind that corner, or he will always win the matchup...Look at that man run when he is healthy, he is as fast as Eddie Royal yet he's even bigger than Andre, almost as big as Marshall....Mike Mayock was spot on about Thomas, he is a rare talent, and if teams don't wanna roll the safety over, you can run comebacks/go options all day and corners will have to give that cushion for the comeback, or they will get jumped over n smashed on, on fly patterns....Just ask Darrelle Revis

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              • #37
                Originally posted by phaytal View Post
                Ummm, yes, because Crayton, (not Clayton) is the ex-Cowboy slinging mud in that article.

                Maybe you should have read it...


                I did.



                Dez Bryant is the tool. All Crayton (its called a mis-type, happens when you are on your phone ) said was that Dez got special treatment.
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                • #38
                  Dez missed all of pre-season with a high left ankle sprain.

                  He then battled through a bruised hip (missing practices).

                  Battle with the left ankle joint all season (from the pre-season high ankle sprain).

                  He then fractured his right ankle on a kickoff return, missing the last 4 games.

                  Yet Thomas is injury prone and Dez is just having bad luck or what?
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by BroncoFanNC View Post
                    Dez missed all of pre-season with a high left ankle sprain.

                    He then battled through a bruised hip (missing practices).

                    Battle with the left ankle joint all season (from the pre-season high ankle sprain).

                    He then fractured his right ankle on a kickoff return, missing the last 4 games.

                    Yet Thomas is injury prone and Dez is just having bad luck or what?
                    don't forget about his wrist or forearm injury... whatever that one that occurred in the endzone was

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                    • #40
                      I wasn't a fan of taking a WR in the First. I thought we had bigger needs. DT might one day be an ok pick. But you don't spend a first round pick on a project. Even if he was healthy he is a long ways from being an NFL WR. Dez was and still is the better choice. He is more versatile, more explosive, and just a better player. Will this be the case this time next season..most definitely... In 5 years...probably.... I think next year is going to be as bad r worse for his development as his rookie season... New scheme, no TC, new QB... these are ingredients for a poor sophomore season. I would love it if he would go down there on his own time and run some patterns with TT and maybe learn how to be an NFL WR.....
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by #24 Next Champ View Post
                        This is getting repetitive lol but like most have said iffff he can stay healthy, and I believe he will, he will be a FORCE for years to come, I guarentee it...because he will warrant two defenders at all times, a safety will always need to be behind that corner, or he will always win the matchup...Look at that man run when he is healthy, he is as fast as Eddie Royal yet he's even bigger than Andre, almost as big as Marshall....Mike Mayock was spot on about Thomas, he is a rare talent, and if teams don't wanna roll the safety over, you can run comebacks/go options all day and corners will have to give that cushion for the comeback, or they will get jumped over n smashed on, on fly patterns....Just ask Darrelle Revis
                        mayock also said the same thing about Robert ayers.... i would hold what he says with a grain of salt... it is good that you think so highly of him, but he didn't show much last season. he wasn't allowed to run any patterns. he was basically stuck running the same 2 or 3 that he ran in college. I want to see him run the tree and get separation. Sorry one nice TD against a scrub CB doesn't hold my interest. He made a nice play for a TD on revis, but as replay showed...he double caught the ball as he did in college...... I want to see him just contribute for 16 games.... i just do not thing he has it in him
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by japfaff View Post
                          I wasn't a fan of taking a WR in the First. I thought we had bigger needs. DT might one day be an ok pick. But you don't spend a first round pick on a project. Even if he was healthy he is a long ways from being an NFL WR. Dez was and still is the better choice. He is more versatile, more explosive, and just a better player. Will this be the case this time next season..most definitely... In 5 years...probably.... I think next year is going to be as bad r worse for his development as his rookie season... New scheme, no TC, new QB... these are ingredients for a poor sophomore season. I would love it if he would go down there on his own time and run some patterns with TT and maybe learn how to be an NFL WR.....
                          I wonder if these guys can "hang out" together and play some drills with friends untill a CBA is signed.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by knoxman36and2 View Post
                            That was my point. I think Thomas may be the better choice if he can stay healthy, and this off season gives him a real chance to get back to 100%. As of right now though, both of them have had their issues whether on the field (injuries, Thomas) or off the field (attitude, Bryant).
                            I here ya bro...Thomas, as far as I'm concerned, hasn't had an issue. Being injured is something that comes with the territory, and should not be considered an issue, unless it becomes hereditary. Thomas will be fine as an opposing threat to a small defensive back-field. The fact that we don't need Thomas to produce, right a way, is important. Breaking Thomas in slowly will help with the injuries, and allow the Broncos to have a diamond in the rough for other teams to recon with in 2011. Just think, with all of Denver's talent do you think other teams are going to game-plan against Thomas. If they don't they loose. Damarius Thomas 6-3 220 lbs. 4.40 40 yard dash, with "better tracking skills than Brandon Marshall" (McDaniels 2010)

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                            • #44
                              Bryant>Thomas

                              Its not even close, Dez is way better. I understand that off the field issues cause problems, marshall... but Dez is the real deal and way better then Thomas. Just watch his games this year, Dez is the total package. He was making stars look bad and brought something to Dallas's return game. Im sorry but Thomas is not going to come close to Bryant. I give Mcdaniels props for Tebow but not Thomas.
                              From Lafayette, enough with this bandwagon nonsense.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by japfaff View Post
                                mayock also said the same thing about Robert ayers.... i would hold what he says with a grain of salt... it is good that you think so highly of him, but he didn't show much last season. he wasn't allowed to run any patterns. he was basically stuck running the same 2 or 3 that he ran in college. I want to see him run the tree and get separation. Sorry one nice TD against a scrub CB doesn't hold my interest. He made a nice play for a TD on revis, but as replay showed...he double caught the ball as he did in college...... I want to see him just contribute for 16 games.... i just do not thing he has it in him
                                I see ur point, but I think ALLLLL of that is more on McDummy....he didn't let him run any routes, he didn't let him go deep as much as he should've, he didn't even PLAY him as much as he should've, the dude could never find a rhythm except for his 1st game...and I saw some things there that trump anything I've seen from Bryant, the dude above me all on his jock is trippin....Dez is a damn clown and sets a garbage example, even if Thomas never does JACK I'm STILL happier we picked him cuz he ain't a grungy P.O.S! he's someone I can actually be proud to root for, he's a good guy...

                                beyond all that tho, yes he was injury prone, but yet again, why the hell did mcdummy put him on KR, he is NOT that type of receiver who can return and he will never be, he isn't agile enough, he is a Randy Moss type who can always demand 2 defensive players and when the D wants to get aggressive and leave him 1v1 vs a corner, you throw it up immediately every time and watch the corner eat it...I put my money on Thomas to be a great in the game very...very soon

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