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  • #16
    Originally posted by RedRaptor View Post
    Moreno has shown flashes, but being so injury prone very early in his career isn't the best sign. If he can stay on the field longer then yeah, I'll be more supportive. But for as high as he was selected, we kind of expected him to be on the field a bit more. Hopefully it changes, but if it doesn't this year, it'd be hard not to label him as a bust. He only had over 15 carries in 3 games last year, and I don't believe that was solely on playcalling...
    Some of it was playcalling and some of it was our stupid system/Knowshon. Everytime he'd get in a groove and have 3-4 good carries in a row he'd run to the side line and let Buck go in. I dunno if that's all on Knowshon or something he was told to do, but it pissed me off every time. He'd have 45 yards on 10 carries and then he'd come sprinting over to the sideline and let Buck or Ball go in and get their clocks cleaned for a 1 yard run, then Orton would dirt a 3rd and 10 pass and we'd have to punt.

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    • #17
      Here are the numbers I have put together showing the 95MM. For the life of me, I can not find where they think 8MM more is going to.

      Elvis Dumervil at 14,000,000
      Champ Bailey at 11,000,000
      Kyle Orton at 8,979,000
      Chris Kuper at 7,000,000
      Brian Dawkins at 6,000,000
      D.J. Williams at 4,900,000
      Andre' Goodman at 3,880,000
      Tim Tebow at 3,618,750
      Ryan Clady at 3,105,000
      Renaldo Hill at 2,400,000
      Jabar Gaffney at 2,400,000
      Kevin Vickerson at 2,000,000
      Knowshon Moreno at 2,000,000
      Mario Haggan at 1,930,000
      Correll Buckhalter at 1,920,000
      Demaryius Thomas at 1,637,500
      Brandon Lloyd at 1,495,000
      Robert Ayers at 880,000
      Russ Hochstein at 865,000
      Lonie Paxton at 865,000
      Nathan Jones at 800,000
      Jason Hunter at 715,000
      Brady Quinn at 700,000
      Daniel Coats at 640,000
      Eddie Royal at 555,000
      Chevis Jackson at 555,000
      Spencer Larsen at 555,000
      Steven Hauschka at 555,000
      Joe Mays at 555,000
      Richard Quinn at 480,000
      David Veikune at 480,000
      David Bruton at 480,000
      Lendale White at 480,000
      Darcel McBath at 480,000
      Matt Willis at 480,000
      Dan Gronkowski at 480,000
      Eric Olsen at 409,000
      Stanley Daniels at 405,000
      Britt Davis at 405,000
      Chris Clark at 405,000
      Syd'Quan Thompson at 405,000
      Cassius Vaughn at 405,000
      Eric Decker at 405,000
      Zane Beadles at 405,000
      J.D. Walton at 405,000
      Britton Colquitt at 405,000
      Ben Garland at 405,000
      Perrish Cox at 405,000
      Jeff Byers at 330,000
      Braxton Kelley at 330,000


      Total 95,389,250
      Ravens GM 2016 - Ravens are looking to trade down 4-8 spots

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      • #18
        They have contracts they have to pay bannan, williams, & Graham Denver's "dead money" — cap numbers for players no longer on the roster — includes $4.996 million for Bannan, $3.25 million for Graham and $3.43 million for Williams

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        • #19
          Originally posted by MHSalute View Post
          Here are the numbers I have put together showing the 95MM. For the life of me, I can not find where they think 8MM more is going to.

          Elvis Dumervil at 14,000,000
          Champ Bailey at 11,000,000
          Kyle Orton at 8,979,000
          Chris Kuper at 7,000,000
          Brian Dawkins at 6,000,000
          D.J. Williams at 4,900,000
          Andre' Goodman at 3,880,000
          Tim Tebow at 3,618,750
          Ryan Clady at 3,105,000
          Renaldo Hill at 2,400,000
          Jabar Gaffney at 2,400,000
          Kevin Vickerson at 2,000,000
          Knowshon Moreno at 2,000,000
          Mario Haggan at 1,930,000
          Correll Buckhalter at 1,920,000
          Demaryius Thomas at 1,637,500
          Brandon Lloyd at 1,495,000
          Robert Ayers at 880,000
          Russ Hochstein at 865,000
          Lonie Paxton at 865,000
          Nathan Jones at 800,000
          Jason Hunter at 715,000
          Brady Quinn at 700,000
          Daniel Coats at 640,000
          Eddie Royal at 555,000
          Chevis Jackson at 555,000
          Spencer Larsen at 555,000
          Steven Hauschka at 555,000
          Joe Mays at 555,000
          Richard Quinn at 480,000
          David Veikune at 480,000
          David Bruton at 480,000
          Lendale White at 480,000
          Darcel McBath at 480,000
          Matt Willis at 480,000
          Dan Gronkowski at 480,000
          Eric Olsen at 409,000
          Stanley Daniels at 405,000
          Britt Davis at 405,000
          Chris Clark at 405,000
          Syd'Quan Thompson at 405,000
          Cassius Vaughn at 405,000
          Eric Decker at 405,000
          Zane Beadles at 405,000
          J.D. Walton at 405,000
          Britton Colquitt at 405,000
          Ben Garland at 405,000
          Perrish Cox at 405,000
          Jeff Byers at 330,000
          Braxton Kelley at 330,000


          Total 95,389,250
          They have contracts they have to pay bannan, williams, & Graham Denver's "dead money" — cap numbers for players no longer on the roster — includes $4.996 million for Bannan, $3.25 million for Graham and $3.43 million for Williams
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          • #20
            Originally posted by BlueOrange7 View Post
            They have contracts they have to pay bannan, williams, & Graham Denver's "dead money" — cap numbers for players no longer on the roster — includes $4.996 million for Bannan, $3.25 million for Graham and $3.43 million for Williams
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            That is not for sure, in fact unlikely. Even if they do, 95MM + 12MM = 107MM

            Where the hell is the other 13MM we are supposedly paying out...that is quite a bit.
            Ravens GM 2016 - Ravens are looking to trade down 4-8 spots

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            • #21
              Originally posted by MHSalute View Post
              That is not for sure, in fact unlikely. Even if they do, 95MM + 12MM = 107MM

              Where the hell is the other 13MM we are supposedly paying out...that is quite a bit.
              how is that not for sure? Unless they get picked up from another team, were forced to pay that amount, its contractual

              and yes I still don't get the other 13mill

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              • #22
                Originally posted by BlueOrange7 View Post
                how is that not for sure? Unless they get picked up from another team, were forced to pay that amount, its contractual
                This isn't true. NFL contracts are not guaranteed.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BlueOrange7 View Post
                  how is that not for sure? Unless they get picked up from another team, were forced to pay that amount, its contractual

                  and yes I still don't get the other 13mill
                  Maybe ESPN is saying that other $13 Mil is taken up by the money still owed to Shannahan and McDaniels? Their pay doesnt go against the salary cap but its just a thought I had that ESPN was possibly doing.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MHSalute View Post
                    Here are the numbers I have put together showing the 95MM. For the life of me, I can not find where they think 8MM more is going to.

                    Elvis Dumervil at 14,000,000
                    Champ Bailey at 11,000,000
                    Kyle Orton at 8,979,000
                    Chris Kuper at 7,000,000
                    Brian Dawkins at 6,000,000
                    D.J. Williams at 4,900,000
                    Andre' Goodman at 3,880,000
                    Tim Tebow at 3,618,750
                    Ryan Clady at 3,105,000
                    Renaldo Hill at 2,400,000
                    Jabar Gaffney at 2,400,000
                    Kevin Vickerson at 2,000,000
                    Knowshon Moreno at 2,000,000
                    Mario Haggan at 1,930,000
                    Correll Buckhalter at 1,920,000
                    Demaryius Thomas at 1,637,500
                    Brandon Lloyd at 1,495,000
                    Robert Ayers at 880,000
                    Russ Hochstein at 865,000
                    Lonie Paxton at 865,000
                    Nathan Jones at 800,000
                    Jason Hunter at 715,000
                    Brady Quinn at 700,000
                    Daniel Coats at 640,000
                    Eddie Royal at 555,000
                    Chevis Jackson at 555,000
                    Spencer Larsen at 555,000
                    Steven Hauschka at 555,000
                    Joe Mays at 555,000
                    Richard Quinn at 480,000
                    David Veikune at 480,000
                    David Bruton at 480,000
                    Lendale White at 480,000
                    Darcel McBath at 480,000
                    Matt Willis at 480,000
                    Dan Gronkowski at 480,000
                    Eric Olsen at 409,000
                    Stanley Daniels at 405,000
                    Britt Davis at 405,000
                    Chris Clark at 405,000
                    Syd'Quan Thompson at 405,000
                    Cassius Vaughn at 405,000
                    Eric Decker at 405,000
                    Zane Beadles at 405,000
                    J.D. Walton at 405,000
                    Britton Colquitt at 405,000
                    Ben Garland at 405,000
                    Perrish Cox at 405,000
                    Jeff Byers at 330,000
                    Braxton Kelley at 330,000


                    Total 95,389,250
                    and some of those numbers are prolly off a little so I would give or take 5 mill but still there is money being claimed by sources that is somewhat mysterious

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ramanboy33 View Post
                      This isn't true. NFL contracts are not guaranteed.
                      uhhh, yeah it is... guarenteed money in a lot of nfl contracts

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by BlueOrange7 View Post
                        They have contracts they have to pay bannan, williams, & Graham Denver's "dead money" — cap numbers for players no longer on the roster — includes $4.996 million for Bannan, $3.25 million for Graham and $3.43 million for Williams
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                        I find it hard to believe they would cut Bannan and J. Williams while still having to pay them $8.2M and having no DT on the roster and no money to replace them. It makes so little sense I don't believe it.

                        Bannan's contract was:

                        According to a league source, Bannan's five-year deal is worth $22 million and includes a $6.245 million signing bonus and $10.5 million in total guaranteed money.

                        10.5 guaranteed including a 6.25 signing bonus. that leaves 4.25 left and he got paid last season. How does that leave 4.9 for this year? Does the signing bonus not count towards guaranteed money? I am unsure.
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                        • #27
                          Thanks MHS CP for the work when I get home, I'm going to send a question to the mailbags of Bill Williamson Matt Williamson, and Clayton. Perhaps if we send enough emails they will respond to the mysterious lack of money.
                          What's the difference between ignorance and apathy?
                          I don't know and I don't care

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                          • #28
                            http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...t-details.html
                            bannan due 10.25 in GUARANTEED money

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                            • #29
                              I'm sure this is the first time I've posted this......

                              Long snapper...........Really???????

                              There must be a correlation somewhere that states that teams with high paid Long Snappers win more often.....

                              And I supported Josh for the longest time.....

                              But REALLY????????

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                              • #30
                                Jamal Williams 7mill Guaranteed

                                http://www.sbnation.com/2010/3/9/136...oncos-chargers

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