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  • In landing Manning, Elway all-in on biggest gamble of his life

    He nailed the draft last year. Got the most out Tebow, knowing he was never a long term answer. And now he signs Peyton Manning. What better way to phase Tebow out with the fan base that sign someone of Manning's caliber? I remember some people questioning Elway as the head of a franchise, but he has proven to be quite sly, and has improved the team after it was dismantled by McDaniels. Manning is a great pick up by the front office, and even better way to close the door on Tebow, someone who was never in the long term plans. Without this signing the front office was going to take a beating when Tebow was phased out.
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    Hope he has a backup plan. Gonna need it.
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    • #3
      Keep tebow...let him learn under manning...makes sense to me

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      • #4
        I just hope they keep building through the draft for the future and not just relying on old Colts players (Manning and possibly Clark & Saturday) as the answers!

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        • #5
          The things Tebow must learn can't be learned watching Manning. Throwing motion and accuracy aren't going to dramatically improve after coming to the NFL. The bottom line is he's a tough guy who can tuck and run, but can't consistently throw the ball. You don't build a team around someone who can't hit his targets.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Drunk Bronco View Post
            Keep tebow...let him learn under manning...makes sense to me
            This would be a great idea, but I think because of the circus that follows Tebow, the front office want to wash their hands of it.
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            • #7
              I don't want Clark, he's got a bad wheel. Go get Visanthe Shiancoe instead! I think Elway is distancing himself from "you know who" and put this team back on the right track.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hoss View Post
                The things Tebow must learn can't be learned watching Manning. Throwing motion and accuracy aren't going to dramatically improve after coming to the NFL. The bottom line is he's a tough guy who can tuck and run, but can't consistently throw the ball. You don't build a team around someone who can't hit his targets.
                this right here. its wasting time.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mel B. View Post
                  I just hope they keep building through the draft for the future and not just relying on old Colts players (Manning and possibly Clark & Saturday) as the answers!
                  The Manning addition was as much about a way to get Tebow off the roster while minimizing fan backlash than it was about winning. I don't think they will bring in too many old Colt players. The plan is still in place. That being said, Dallas Clark would be a welcome addition and add depth to a position that wasn't utilized very much last year.

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                  • #10
                    In landing Manning, Elway all-in on biggest gamble of his life

                    In essence, this is how John Elway pulled off maybe the biggest coup in NFL history: He played to Peyton Manning's sense of history. To his ego.

                    Elway, I'm told by multiple sources, spoke often to Manning about greatness. No other person in the Manning sweepstakes could do this like Elway. It was a quarterback thing. A great, historic quarterback thing. They spoke the same language, and it's like Latin to everyone else.

                    One of the first things Elway said to Manning was this: Imagine everything you can do here, and imagine if you win a championship here. You win a title in Denver, and no other quarterback will be able to touch your legacy. Including me.

                    Elway stayed in constant touch with Manning throughout the process and all the time continued to appeal to Manning's ego and sense of history. Elway also once told Manning that a title in Denver would push him past Tom Brady. Brady and Manning have obviously been bitter rivals.

                    Jim Harbaugh played quarterback as well and Manning highly respects him, but Harbaugh isn't Elway.

                    There was one more thing. Elway had told Manning that Tim Tebow would be traded if Manning signed. It's unknown if Elway offered this nugget or if Manning demanded it. But the Broncos began looking to trade Tebow literally the second Manning informed the Broncos of his decision. (Some reports suggest the Broncos were already attempting to trade Tebow days ago, but I'm not so certain this is the case.)

                    When Manning informed the Broncos he had selected them Monday morning, the football office erupted into cheers. The contract is expected to be signed almost immediately and be a multiyear deal worth about $20 million annually with a large chunk of it guaranteed it.

                    When Reggie White, the last mega-free agent, went to Green Bay, it was considered more of a gamble for White than Green Bay because White was headed to a much smaller market.

                    This is the opposite. This is Elway's big gamble. This is the biggest gamble any general manager has made in the history of football. If it works, Elway will secure himself as a Hall of Fame executive to go along with his Hall of Fame arm.

                    If this fails, it will go down as the greatest flop in league history. Elway will never recover from it, and the Broncos organization will be set back for some time.

                    This is the most thrilling, high risk/high reward and, yes, dangerous move we've seen by a league executive in some time. Philadelphia signing Mike Vick is right there, but Vick isn't considered one of the top three passers of all time.

                    No, this is the greatest gamble. Very little comes close.

                    It's not a shock that Elway pulled this off. He owned a used car dealership, and if you've ever spoken with Elway, you'd know he is a confident, smooth talker. If Elway ever went into politics, he'd be the Republican nominee for President within five years. He's that good.

                    Manning will certainly say at some point this was a terribly close decision but everything I hear is that it wasn't as close as many are saying. Elway was that convincing, and the fact Manning made the decision so quickly after visiting Tennessee over the weekend seems to indicate Denver was a clear-cut winner.

                    Elway and Manning likely clicked in another way. Like Manning, despite going to Super Bowls, Elway didn't win one until later in his career. The same as Manning. And like Manning, Elway wasn't totally healthy when he won his titles.

                    Yes, the gamble of a lifetime. Elway has made it, and now everything rests on what Elway decided. And considering it was that way in Denver for so long with Elway as a player, maybe that's how it should be.
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                    • #11
                      If Manning can finish he last few years like John ( not just SB Wins ) did then it was a great move but history tells us theres very few Elways
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                      • #12
                        A year ago most people on the board were expecting 4-6 wins (with optimistic exceptions). We won the division, had a home playoff win, and went from the #2 pick to the #25 pick in the draft.It's hard to see how people could feel EFX isn't executing. This is a bold, risky move. The payoff could be a SB or disaster. But anyone who doubts Elway wants to win now and will do all in his power to do so is just not paying attention. In the NFL, wins beget wins, and losses beget losses. He's doing exactly what he should be doing.

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                        • #13
                          The problem was never Tim Tebow, The problem was his fans. When he leaves I hope they all go with him

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                          • #14
                            His plan is super Risky.

                            If Manning isnt that good anymore, or gets hurt then what?

                            IF this thing blows up and we suck for 5 years, what impact will this have on Elways fame in the Denver area?

                            Hope I am wrong but I just dont know how much Manning has left not to mention his neck issues.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dgobronco View Post
                              A year ago most people on the board were expecting 4-6 wins (with optimistic exceptions). We won the division, had a home playoff win, and went from the #2 pick to the #25 pick in the draft.It's hard to see how people could feel EFX isn't executing. This is a bold, risky move. The payoff could be a SB or disaster. But anyone who doubts Elway wants to win now and will do all in his power to do so is just not paying attention. In the NFL, wins beget wins, and losses beget losses. He's doing exactly what he should be doing.
                              I love Elway, just like every Bronco fan, but I'll admit I was wondering how he'd perform at the helm of a franchise. I didn't go so far to doubt him, I just wondered if he had the experience to be effective. And he has easily proven himself! This is a genius move.

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