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  • Acedude
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    Originally posted by Steamboat7 View Post
    Actually, he's had at least two that I know of. And one of them was so monumental that it made history. AFC title game against the Pats- 2006 season. Largest deficit overcome in a championship or SB to date. Also, the Colts were behind in the 2006 SB from the first play, as I recall.

    He's also had at least two playoff games lost for him by his kicker. Dolphins (in 2000?) Kick to win, Vanderjagt misses badly. Steelers in 2005. Kick to tie for overtime. Vanderjagt misses badly. Against the Jets two years ago, he drives for the winning score only to watch the Colts kick coverage team allow a 60 yard return with about 40 seconds on the clock. The Jets kicked the winning FG. If you look at Manning's "portfolio" of playoff losses, he's had some bad luck games against the Chargers, Steelers, Dolphins, and Jets. He's had a couple of stinker games, against the Pats and the Jets, but then, Mr. Playoff Perfect Brady has had some stinker playoff games, too, against the Broncos and the Ravens come readily to mind.
    You got me with that 2006. 21-6 at the half in Indy against NE, outscored NE 28-13 in the second half. The one comeback I was thinking of was the 2006 Super Bowl. Good catch, my fault

    Yes, he's had a few good games, I'm a little biased against Peyton, that's why I'm picking on him.

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  • RockyMts69
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    Typical from a UT sports writer...

    The Chargers have serious problems in SD with the likes of A.J. Smith and Norv Turner and from my experience, the media hardly ever says anything bad about those two bozos!

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  • Acedude
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    Originally posted by Steamboat7 View Post
    Disagree stridently. He's had a good defense (and by good I mean above .500 compared to the rest of the league) maybe 2 out of his 14 seasons.
    One thing about Peyton, in his 10 playoff losses "his" offense averaged 14.2 ppg. The defenses weren't all that great, averaging 24.7 ppg in those losses.

    Take out the one huge whipping by the Jets in 2002 (41-0), and the offense was still at 14.2 ppg, but the defense avg ppg goes down to 22.8 ppg.

    So make out of that what you will.

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  • PioneerBroncFan
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    That article is hilarious!!! No team in NFL history has done less with more than the San Diego Chargers. I got an idea, lets get rid of Shottenheimer, trade Drew Breeze, let LT and Sproles go, give up on Vincent Jackson, and loose over a period of 6 years where all NFL analysts anointed them as the "most talented" team in the NFL.

    Rivers and Norv are nothing but a joke, excuse me, I spelled that wrong.......I meant CHOKE.

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  • Steamboat7
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    Originally posted by Acedude View Post
    True. Peyton has exactly one (1) playoff come from behind victory. One. All those playoff games, and one come from behind victory.

    Some of that could be a team function (or lack thereof), but some of that is certainly on Manning after 11 playoff appearances.
    Actually, he's had at least two that I know of. And one of them was so monumental that it made history. AFC title game against the Pats- 2006 season. Largest deficit overcome in a championship or SB to date. Also, the Colts were behind in the 2006 SB from the first play, as I recall.

    He's also had at least two playoff games lost for him by his kicker. Dolphins (in 2000?) Kick to win, Vanderjagt misses badly. Steelers in 2005. Kick to tie for overtime. Vanderjagt misses badly. Against the Jets two years ago, he drives for the winning score only to watch the Colts kick coverage team allow a 60 yard return with about 40 seconds on the clock. The Jets kicked the winning FG. If you look at Manning's "portfolio" of playoff losses, he's had some bad luck games against the Chargers, Steelers, Dolphins, and Jets. He's had a couple of stinker games, against the Pats and the Jets, but then, Mr. Playoff Perfect Brady has had some stinker playoff games, too, against the Broncos and the Ravens come readily to mind.
    Last edited by Steamboat7; 04-02-2012, 12:27 PM.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by arapaho View Post
    i know this isnt smack.....but dude come on...i been saying that about rivers all the time regarding the bolts choking......you and your silly bolt bros been stubberly resisting it every step of the way

    nw cause the discussion is manning...suddenly the choke is on?
    when have i ever denied that the chargers have choked? actually, if you remember correctly, my argument was that rivers only choked two playoff games because those were the only two the bolts were supposed to win and didn't follow through.

    i am nothing but consistent here arapaho.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by Steamboat7 View Post
    Disagree stridently. He's had a good defense (and by good I mean above .500 compared to the rest of the league) maybe 2 out of his 14 seasons.
    i counted 6 season of at least top 15 in the league or better. not saying he has had great defenses but they have had some great players on defense and some pretty decent defenses overall at times.

    heck, in 2007 they had one of the best defenses in the league statistically, the best scoring defense.

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  • nyuk nyuk
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    Denver, Denver, Denver. I’m sick of Denver and the incredible advantage the rarefied air gives its sports teams. And those gushing that with Manning the Broncos will stroll through the AFC West and onto the Super Bowl are full of it up to their earlobes.

    It isn’t going to be that easy. This isn’t 2008. Manning may be a four-time NFL MVP, but he just turned 36, has had at least three next surgeries (possibly four) and hasn’t thrown a meaningful pass since January 2010. He never was mobile. Elway and Fox don’t even know if he can play.
    ^^^ Did he say it for teh lulz?

    First of all, I'm thrilled that San Diegans are sick of hearing about Denver. I've always loved to torment our foes.

    Surely the guy who wrote this knows full well we wouldn't have traded Tebow and given Peyton so much if we didn't know if he could play. Come on - several doctors have cleared him. You can't take (yet another) sports writer seriously that mislabels Elway as the "GM."

    Jealous much? Yes, I think so.

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  • arapaho
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    to be fair manning actually has had some good teams. good receivers, good TE, a good running back. he has had it all.

    hes even had good defenses at times with good players. his playoff struggles does not relate to that IMO

    when you are dominating in the regular season then lose to a team you are supposed to beat in the first playoff game, that is just a choke.happens to even the best QB's but to manning it happens more than usual.
    i know this isnt smack.....but dude come on...i been saying that about rivers all the time regarding the bolts choking......you and your silly bolt bros been stubberly resisting it every step of the way

    nw cause the discussion is manning...suddenly the choke is on?

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  • GalloFTW
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    "Has any great quarterback lost more big games with good teams in his life than Peyton Manning? Can’t think of one."

    What a moron. Manning never even had one truly good defensive team. In football, that's the most important thing, defense. In basketball, it is about 50-50, in football, it's really 70-30, especially in the playoffs. Defense is just that important. And he has the nerve to say Manning had great teams. He definitely has an agenda.

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  • lvbronx
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    Denver, Denver, Denver. I’m sick of Denver and the incredible advantage the rarefied air gives its sports teams.

    What's he going to do about it? Funny how the altitude got lower the year we were 4-12.

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  • MH Stampede
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post

    i do think you guys are the favorites to win the division but its not going to come automatically like many of you apparently believe.
    I havent seen anyone saying we are going to automatically win any titles.

    As for being the favorites at the moment?

    We are the defending division champions you know. No matter how it went down, how bad the rest of the division was, that cannot be taken away from the Broncos.

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  • MH Stampede
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    Originally posted by Atwnbroncfan View Post
    Its funny, SD talking about titles. They don't know what a title is let alone a loyal fan base.
    Haha good point.

    Especially since the chargers are the only AFCW team to have never won a Super Bowl.

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  • MH Stampede
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    Originally posted by JAY6 View Post
    No rational person is going to anoint any team in march.

    Having a great QB like Manning is no guarantee either.

    In other words, this guy said...nothing new, nothing noteworthy or original.

    Just a hometown hack bashing on a rival. That's it. That is ALL it is.

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  • DishWater
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    AJ kinda seems like an a-hole.

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