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  • #76
    The simple answer is it's about putting your best lineup out there. Doom, Bannan, Ty Warren, & Wolfe are probably better than Doom, Ty Warren, Wolfe, and Ayers. Wolfe is a pass rusher and it's best to have him out there. You can never have enough pass rushers out there... and we might have a nice triple threat with VON, Doom, and Wolfe all on the field at the same time.

    Also, it's still early in the preseason so this might get tweaked before we're playing a meaningful game.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Letswinplz77 View Post
      I have a question about our D-line and Wolfe. Even before Hunter went down, Wolfe was talked about and listed as a Defensive End. My question is why? What does he bring on the edge that is an improvement over Ayers, Beal or Jackson? AND, is he not better inside than Bannon, Unrein or Vickerson?

      I understand versatility, but I've also thought you use a player where he plays best. Is the coaching staff actually saying that Wolfe is a better End than Tackle. ANd more than that, are they saying he's a better End than Ayers and Beal? Just not sure what criteria they are using here, so anyone who knows how they've come to this point, feel free to clue me in. Thanks.
      He was playing as a starter as a DE in our 3-4 packages and was playing DE in our heavy package
      A healthy Kenneth Dixon is a top 5 NFL RB.

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      • #78
        Dave's vids are entertaining, and I like them, but I don't see Elway playing for the Colts.

        I see him playing baseball for a year, and then going back into the 1984 draft, where he is drafted #1 overall by Cincinnati(They got Tampa's pick in a trade for Jack Thompson). Elway probably goes on to lead the Bengals to three or four SB's over the next 16 years, and a few SB titles.

        As for Denver, I can see them staying with DeBerg because Reeves liked him. Also, Mark Herrmann may have gotten a shot at the job as well(I have a copy of the 1981 Viking-Bronco MNF game, and the announcers said that Reeves liked Herrmann a lot, and that he was going to be the future).

        Denver may have stayed in contention in the 80's, but they don't get to the SB until they draft Brett Favre in 1991 and sign Reggie White as a FA. Favre leads Denver to five SB's in the 90's and OO's. Dan Reeves stays in Denver all his career, and retires in 2004.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Hadez View Post
          From what I understand Wolfe is real good one vs one on pass rushing. They planned on using him early downs as DE and later passing downs as DT.

          I do not think this changed because of hunter injury. Only thing that changes is some snaps will now be up for grab.

          Does Wolfe get em? Ayers? Someone else?

          My guess is the coaches will let the players compete for the snaps
          I agree that Wolfe is built to play all 3 downs, even more so than Ayers. He will play the edge on early downs and will apply pressure without getting run over in the process. Ayers has done that well over the past couple years. The issue has been on 3rd down - Wolfe is versatile to play at any position on the line and Doom/Miller can help as they press the QB. Doom cannot play all 3 downs (or at least should not). We need to rotate these guys better and if we can stay healthy (minus one already) we have a really versatile group to rotate out there - just like the 2-time Super Bowl Champs do... it really does work. Wolfe can play the JPP role for us. The combine numbers for these two 6'5" guys are not that far off - Wolfe actually showed more strength and athleticism, was 25 pounds heavier (295 to JPP at 270). I know I may be reaching, JPP is a true difference maker already and may have a higher ceiling. But, you have to like Wolfe's size and ability already.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by JBBronco1 View Post
            Dave's vids are entertaining, and I like them, but I don't see Elway playing for the Colts.

            I see him playing baseball for a year, and then going back into the 1984 draft, where he is drafted #1 overall by Cincinnati(They got Tampa's pick in a trade for Jack Thompson). Elway probably goes on to lead the Bengals to three or four SB's over the next 16 years, and a few SB titles.

            As for Denver, I can see them staying with DeBerg because Reeves liked him. Also, Mark Herrmann may have gotten a shot at the job as well(I have a copy of the 1981 Viking-Bronco MNF game, and the announcers said that Reeves liked Herrmann a lot, and that he was going to be the future).

            Denver may have stayed in contention in the 80's, but they don't get to the SB until they draft Brett Favre in 1991 and sign Reggie White as a FA. Favre leads Denver to five SB's in the 90's and OO's. Dan Reeves stays in Denver all his career, and retires in 2004.

            Wow.. that must be some rockin' herbs.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by olgrouch View Post
              I agree with most of your post, having a little trouble w/ only keeping 3 true dt's on the roster though.
              Originally posted by Atwnbroncfan View Post
              Your insane if you think we will only keep 3 DTs. Versatile or not. None of the DEs have the size. Teams would be able to rush for 300 plus a game on us.
              Derek Wolfe according to Denver Broncos.com is heavier then Vickerson and Unrein. That isn't right just as it isn't right Malik Jackson is only 270. I think both are plenty big enough to play inside. Especially Wolfe. And yes it probably wont happen but if Beal plays well again I would prefer to keep him around and let Bannan or Unrein leave. And in case of an injury you could call upon anyone of Unrein, Bannan or Siliga because they probably wont get jobs anywhere else either.

              And when you look at it our nickel defense more then likely will feature no true defensive tackles. Robert Ayers and Derek Wolfe will more then likely play in the middle. So the snap rotation will be pretty spread out for the 3 inside guys anyway in my situation. And you would get to keep Beal and Jackson. Which is important in my opinion.

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