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  • denver11tebow
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    Why do so many people think doom is over rated? He has been in on a ton of plays and take away the New England game has not given up anything big. What else do you want from a starting DE? Doom is a pass rushing specialist and his ability to get the the quarterback or at the very least draw a double team on passing downs helps the rest of the D look even better.

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  • crash123go
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    Originally posted by DenverBlood View Post
    Agreed. If anything based on the opinions of this thread he is now largely underrated. It's like if he doesn't get a sack on every single dropback then he is overrated and not doing his job. Give me a break people.

    I'd CP you but I'm tapped out.
    I don't think it's that, for one I don't think doom is the same guy he was that 17.5 season he had but also we get blinded cause Von miller is maybe the most explosive defensive player in the league and to be honest he makes doom not look as good cause he's so good

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  • samparnell
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    Originally posted by FL BRONCO View Post
    Wow great comeback There are plenty of examples in past threads of what is imo the overrating of each of these guys. Heck some around here think Moreno is the best back on the roster and others think that McCoy is just a genius while others had Caldwell Starting and Stokes not on the team. I personally think they are all overrated by some around here. Now if you actually want to discuss that ok. Otherwise
    Wow! You really take these over/underrated threads seriously.

    How about this? The title of this thread is "Who do you think are the most overrated/underrated players on our roster?" :paper:

    So, McCoy isn't a player and he isn't on our roster, therefore you can't list him.
    Last edited by samparnell; 11-12-2012, 12:34 PM.

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  • orange kool aid
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    OR - Julius Thomas, Andre Caldwell, Nate Irving (guys who have never contributed anything in the nfl should never have their own threads, outside of preseason/tc).

    UR - Vickerson, Ayers, Beadles, DJ, DT (people still whine about his route running and compare him to Dez), Manning (everybody says Manning being Manning, but never talk about his improvement when things break down in the pocket and how he has adapted to #1 and #2 receivers that are completely different from what he had in Indy).

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  • FL BRONCO
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    Yeah, I know. Those guys get way too much credit around here.
    Wow great comeback There are plenty of examples in past threads of what is imo the overrating of each of these guys. Heck some around here think Moreno is the best back on the roster and others think that McCoy is just a genius while others had Caldwell Starting and Stokes not on the team. I personally think they are all overrated by some around here. Now if you actually want to discuss that ok. Otherwise

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  • #87Birdman
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    Originally posted by DenverBlood View Post
    1. It's not $60 a year.
    I hope it isn't $60 a year. I wouldn't even be able to live off of $60 a week . Just messing with you lol.

    But yeah Doom is playing great but I think people want to see crazy high sack numbers like he use to get, but teams have learned to just throw quick passes, because if you try a verticle game against us you end up like Brees, Rivers, and Newton. On their back because it takes to long.

    Doom is playing solid but that $60 mil was high but it was good keeping one of our talents around. I think Ayers is great for rotation and gives us solid depth.

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  • DenverBlood
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    Originally posted by JayJack View Post
    Of course it isn't $60 mil a year. The entire contract is $60 mil, and IMO, he wasn't/isn't worth that. Overpaid is probably the better choice of words, but at the same time, overpaid can equal overrated.
    So I might give you overpaid. But that's extremely debatable.

    League wide maybe not. But he is a very important part of our defense that we had to keep. Sometimes you pay a guy more than he is worth just to not lose him to someone else who is willing to pay him.

    If that's why we gave him that contract I have no problem with it. If the front office thinks 13 sacks and 8 forced fumbles is worth it to them then he is not overpaid.

    I'd much rather pay Dumerville 19 a year for that production than pay someone else less because another team outbid us for Doom.

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  • Al Wilson 4 Mayor
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    I'm not going to make any proclamations about anyone being overrated, but I will say that both Adams and Porter are underrated.

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  • JayJack
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    Originally posted by DenverBlood View Post
    1. It's not $60 a year.

    2. IBeWriteGood provided stats that prove Dumerville is not playing at a level that would rate him in the overrated category.

    I'd say 7 sacks and 5 forced fumbles after 9 games is worth most of his 19 mil. It's not his fault we can't fall on the ball after he knocks it out. As he stated through the season that would compute to about 13 sacks and 8 forced fumbles.

    Maybe not quite worth 19 mil but still worth a lot of money. And I would not even come close to putting him in the overrated category.
    Of course it isn't $60 mil a year. The entire contract is $60 mil, and IMO, he wasn't/isn't worth that. Overpaid is probably the better choice of words, but at the same time, overpaid can equal overrated.

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  • 86Elwayfan
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    Overrated: Adams
    Underrated: Vickerson, Rahim Moore, Keith Brooking

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  • maggnus
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    Overrate: nobody

    underrate: Koppen, Stokley, Big Vick, Woodyard, Trevathan, Chris Harris, Moore, Bruton (ST) and Trindon Hollyday (returner)

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  • DenverBlood
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    Originally posted by JayJack View Post
    Why do people have to be considered "Haters" because they have their own opinion about a player? I believe DOOM is a good player, but when we extended him for $60 mil, he went straight to the "overrated" catergory. DOOM is good, not $60 mil good.
    1. It's not $60 a year.

    2. IBeWriteGood provided stats that prove Dumerville is not playing at a level that would rate him in the overrated category.

    I'd say 7 sacks and 5 forced fumbles after 9 games is worth most of his 19 mil. It's not his fault we can't fall on the ball after he knocks it out. As he stated through the season that would compute to about 13 sacks and 8 forced fumbles.

    Maybe not quite worth 19 mil but still worth a lot of money. And I would not even come close to putting him in the overrated category.

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  • JayJack
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    Originally posted by IBeWriteGood View Post
    To the haters:

    Dumervil leads the team with 5 forced fumbles, and he has 7 sacks (on pace for 13).

    Before yesterday's game, he also led the NFL in total quarterback pressures. His inadequacy in the run game is largely overstated.
    Why do people have to be considered "Haters" because they have their own opinion about a player? I believe DOOM is a good player, but when we extended him for $60 mil, he went straight to the "overrated" catergory. DOOM is good, not $60 mil good.

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  • DenverBlood
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    Originally posted by IBeWriteGood View Post
    To the haters:

    Dumervil leads the team with 5 forced fumbles, and he has 7 sacks (on pace for 13).

    Before yesterday's game, he also led the NFL in total quarterback pressures. His inadequacy in the run game is largely overstated.
    Agreed. If anything based on the opinions of this thread he is now largely underrated. It's like if he doesn't get a sack on every single dropback then he is overrated and not doing his job. Give me a break people.

    I'd CP you but I'm tapped out.

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  • IBeWriteGood
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    To the haters:

    Dumervil leads the team with 5 forced fumbles, and he has 7 sacks (on pace for 13).

    Before yesterday's game, he also led the NFL in total quarterback pressures. His inadequacy in the run game is largely overstated.

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