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  • TheSheriff
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    Originally posted by dandaman23 View Post
    Your right, it's Offensive Player of the Year, I think you knew what I meant though. So I rephrase my question.

    Has a team ever produced the Offensive Player of the Year and the Defensive Player of the Year in the same season?
    Only the ravens in 2003 with both Lewises

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  • TheSheriff
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    Originally posted by Doogansquest View Post
    Pretty sure it's Offensive Player of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year.

    The MVP is a category on it's own. I am also sure no one has won both the MVP and a POY award, and I don't think that will change.
    Actually a lot of guys have won MVP and offensive player of the year:

    Peyton in 04, brady in both, Tomlinson in 2006, Shaun Alexander in 05, Faulk in 2008, Terrell Davis in 1998, Barry Sanders in 1997, Fave in 1995, Steve Young in 1992, Thurman Thomas in 1991, Montana in 1989, Ken Anderson in 1981, Theismann in 83, Marino in 84, and Marcus Allen in 85. Others before 81 too but getting too tired to type them all haha.

    Lawrence Taylor also won it in 86
    Last edited by TheSheriff; 12-05-2012, 01:45 PM.

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  • dandaman23
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    Originally posted by Doogansquest View Post
    Pretty sure it's Offensive Player of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year.

    The MVP is a category on it's own. I am also sure no one has won both the MVP and a POY award, and I don't think that will change.
    Your right, it's Offensive Player of the Year, I think you knew what I meant though. So I rephrase my question.

    Has a team ever produced the Offensive Player of the Year and the Defensive Player of the Year in the same season?

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  • Doogansquest
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    Pretty sure it's Offensive Player of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year.

    The MVP is a category on it's own. I am also sure no one has won both the MVP and a POY award, and I don't think that will change.

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  • Al Wilson 4 Mayor
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    Both Manning and Miller are probably the top 2 candidates in their respective categories, so it's fairly probable.

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  • #87Birdman
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    Originally posted by dandaman23 View Post
    Has the same team ever produced an offensive MVP and a defensive MVP in the same season? I was thinking about it today because the Broncos have a very good chance of doing just that with Manning and Miller. The MVP race will be close in both categories this season. But how cool would it be if both Manning and Miller won their respective MVP awards, and then we went on to win the Super Bowl? Maybe I'm being greedy, I just haven't been this excited for our team in a long long time. We have some great talent on this team.
    I believe the Ravens did it during their super bowl year.

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  • dandaman23
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    Offensive and Defensive MVP

    Has the same team ever produced an offensive MVP and a defensive MVP in the same season? I was thinking about it today because the Broncos have a very good chance of doing just that with Manning and Miller. The MVP race will be close in both categories this season. But how cool would it be if both Manning and Miller won their respective MVP awards, and then we went on to win the Super Bowl? Maybe I'm being greedy, I just haven't been this excited for our team in a long long time. We have some great talent on this team.

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  • Chronoless
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    Originally posted by Fansince2000 View Post
    I remember exactly what you were talking about. All we had to do was win against Jacksonville for all teams, and 2006 would have been a year to forget. But now, that year lives in infamy and started the Bronco degradation all the way to the embarassing 4-12 season. In SF's case they need to adress it NOW and put Alex Smith back in. It was a mistake for Harbuagh to get Kapernick in, like it was for Shannhan to let Cutler take Jake Plummer's job.
    I believe if the man (Plummer/Smith) gets you to your record, let the man play out the rest of the season, if you are still in the payoff.

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  • Fansince2000
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    Originally posted by CoryWinget81 View Post
    The only thing I never liked about him was how much he defended Orton...


    ...ironically enough...
    That is my only pet peeve about Dave, but besides that, a Denver sports fan's dream come true. I mean everyone ain't perfect, there has to be one flaw in every person right?

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  • Fansince2000
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    Originally posted by Broncos-R-Great View Post
    We all remember the 2006 Broncos, Shanahan switches his starting QB while the team is 7-4, they end up not even making the playoffs. Even then there were justifiable reasons to make a switch, Plummer was struggling and had thrown more INT than TD, plus they had lost back to back games and dropped 3 of the last 5.

    Shanahan made the switch, in essence, to stop the bleeding, he committed fully to Cutler, and it was easy for many to see that he gave them the best chance to win. The same can't be said about SF.
    I remember exactly what you were talking about. All we had to do was win against Jacksonville for all teams, and 2006 would have been a year to forget. But now, that year lives in infamy and started the Bronco degradation all the way to the embarassing 4-12 season. In SF's case they need to adress it NOW and put Alex Smith back in. It was a mistake for Harbuagh to get Kapernick in, like it was for Shannhan to let Cutler take Jake Plummer's job.

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  • Broncos-R-Great
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    Originally posted by Fansince2000 View Post
    Yeah I believe SF is in a crisis right now, and it could not have come at at worse time than right now, since they were in danger of losing thier division lead, and maybe not even making the playoffs, even though it is very unlikely.
    We all remember the 2006 Broncos, Shanahan switches his starting QB while the team is 7-4, they end up not even making the playoffs. Even then there were justifiable reasons to make a switch, Plummer was struggling and had thrown more INT than TD, plus they had lost back to back games and dropped 3 of the last 5.

    Shanahan made the switch, in essence, to stop the bleeding, he committed fully to Cutler, and it was easy for many to see that he gave them the best chance to win. The same can't be said about SF.

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  • Fansince2000
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    Originally posted by InElwayWeTrust View Post
    For some reason my phone won't load the link...

    But 4 sounds right to me. The 3 teams that beat us should be ahead of us for now.
    Come playoff time, we will be ready to dethrone them from thier ranking no matter who we play.

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  • InElwayWeTrust
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    For some reason my phone won't load the link...

    But 4 sounds right to me. The 3 teams that beat us should be ahead of us for now.

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  • Fansince2000
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    Originally posted by Broncos-R-Great View Post
    Yep, saw that on ESPN.

    I really think SF jumped into a huge pile of steaming poo making that QB change. I believe Kaepernick can be a good QB, but it was the worst possible time to make a switch, and now they're in the middle of a QB controversy headed into the playoffs, no good can come from that.
    Yeah I believe SF is in a crisis right now, and it could not have come at at worse time than right now, since they were in danger of losing thier division lead, and maybe not even making the playoffs, even though it is very unlikely.

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  • Broncos-R-Great
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    Originally posted by bronx_2003 View Post
    Agree with the rankings. Another site had us 5 behind SF. THAT is a joke !
    Yep, saw that on ESPN.

    I really think SF jumped into a huge pile of steaming poo making that QB change. I believe Kaepernick can be a good QB, but it was the worst possible time to make a switch, and now they're in the middle of a QB controversy headed into the playoffs, no good can come from that.

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