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  • crash123go
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    Originally posted by bronx_2003 View Post
    Its irrelevant who they name as number 1 now before TC and pre-season.

    Ball is the number one back. A round 2 pick that has all the attributes to carry the load. Like all rookies he will have to prove he 'gets' the pass protections. If he does then he starts week one and doesn't look back.

    Hillman is a COP back. Not very good between the tackles, need to get him 7-8 plays a game and get him in space.

    Moreno is a third down back and will spell Montee.
    Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
    I think that is a likley scenario.
    We won't have a third down RB. We won't be rotating personell like last year so the RB will be play a possession at a time

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  • bronx_2003
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    Moreno was better last season but annoyed me when he left the Ravens game just after HT with an injury and didn't return.

    I know its not his fault but it always seems to be the case with him. He faces a tough playoff D and limps off again. We are left with a COP back trying to run between the tackles and our running game is non-existent in the 2nd half.

    Thats my huge worry keeping Moreno over McGahee. If montee goes down at some point will Moreno be healthy come playoff time ? He very rarely is.

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  • broncos SB2010
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    Originally posted by bronx_2003 View Post
    Its irrelevant who they name as number 1 now before TC and pre-season.

    Ball is the number one back. A round 2 pick that has all the attributes to carry the load. Like all rookies he will have to prove he 'gets' the pass protections. If he does then he starts week one and doesn't look back.

    Hillman is a COP back. Not very good between the tackles, need to get him 7-8 plays a game and get him in space.

    Moreno is a third down back and will spell Montee.
    I think that is a likley scenario.

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  • bronx_2003
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    Its irrelevant who they name as number 1 now before TC and pre-season.

    Ball is the number one back. A round 2 pick that has all the attributes to carry the load. Like all rookies he will have to prove he 'gets' the pass protections. If he does then he starts week one and doesn't look back.

    Hillman is a COP back. Not very good between the tackles, need to get him 7-8 plays a game and get him in space.

    Moreno is a third down back and will spell Montee.

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  • broncos SB2010
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    Originally posted by underrated29 View Post
    There is no way those numbers are correct. I bet they are also including games where he was playing hurt and had one or two carries and then got hurt or left.

    Also are those game Started, or just games he played in? Just this past year he went over 100 in most of the games I believe.
    look it up yourself then........

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  • underrated29
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    Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
    In the last 4 years he has had 13 100+ games. 13 out of 30 games started.


    There is no way those numbers are correct. I bet they are also including games where he was playing hurt and had one or two carries and then got hurt or left.

    Also are those game Started, or just games he played in? Just this past year he went over 100 in most of the games I believe.

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  • CanDB
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    Yes....it's great that Knowshon is getting some love from the fans. He earned it the way he handled himself last season. He could have folded, but instead, took the high road all season, and he helped us big time along the way, when we needed him.

    I don't see him as the #1 guy necessarily, but he can be when counted on.

    As for those who are stuck in McD-ville, lets remember, Knowshon did not pick himself. He was picked.

    As for our RB situation.....well, it's pretty darn good. I believe Ball will be the #1 back at some point. I do not see Hillman as the #1 guy, and until he can prove to be a complete back, he should never be #1. But as long as he keeps maturing and gaining strength, he is a good player to have. I need to see further evidence before I get too excited about him. He's got to use his speed better, because he is definitely not a power back. Again, lets give him time, because he's still a youngin.

    Anyway....glad that Knowshon is appreciated for his commitment and team play. Plus, when he's on, he's darn good! Plus I love his "hustle".

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  • PowderAddict
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    no one is "#1" at this point, especially since TC hasn't even started.

    Once camp and preseason are finished, we will know how the depth chart looks. At this point it's speculation. Which is fun

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  • broncos SB2010
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    Originally posted by underrated29 View Post
    But he also had the receiving yards that always gets overlooked. Almost every game he started, maybe even every game. He went over 100 total yards. Anytime simene goes for 100+ it's a very good day. He does it consistently. That is why, where he lacks in running he makes up for in pass catching and open space.



    Also didnt knowshon complete his rookie year without missing a game? I am pretty sure he did. He missed training camp but did not miss a game and finished out the season- to whoever said that. I haven't looked but I think that is correct.
    In the last 4 years he has had 13 100+ games. 13 out of 30 games started.

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  • flosstein
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    Originally posted by JvDub95 View Post
    We don't know if it was unwarranted or not, we weren't behind closed doors. Imo, he needed an attitude adjustment and the fact that he was putting the ball on the ground at the time is probably what got him there. I am not a fan of No-show Moreno and would love it if Ball won the job. It's been too long since we've had a bell cow and consistancy out of our RB's
    True, we don't know what went on behind closed doors I totally agree there. But he wasn't putting the ball on the ground at that time. He had 1 fumble against ATl and it shouldn't have been. His knee was clearly down and Franklin came out of the pile with the ball, but the replacement refs gave it to the Falcons. It was actually the first national TV blunder of the replacements and the replay staff. And from that point until WMc was injured, he was inactive. That's the view I was looking at when I said unwarranted. Because it all seemed linked to that play.

    McGahee was the one who had trouble holding onto the ball. He put the ball on the ground nine times in 2 years, same as KM across a 4 year span. Moreno only had the 1 fumble all season.

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  • bigdog1002
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    Wouldn't hurt me to see him get released. He doesn't bring anything special to the table that we can't get with the other backs for almost $2M

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  • crash123go
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    Originally posted by JvDub95 View Post
    We don't know if it was unwarranted or not, we weren't behind closed doors. Imo, he needed an attitude adjustment and the fact that he was putting the ball on the ground at the time is probably what got him there. I am not a fan of No-show Moreno and would love it if Ball won the job. It's been too long since we've had a bell cow and consistancy out of our RB's
    If Moreno would have stayed healthy last year I would put money on us not drafting Ball and using Moreno and hillman as our backs

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  • JvDub95
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    Originally posted by flosstein View Post
    I was down on on Knowshon b4 last season. But his attitude towards his unwarranted stint in the doghouse and how he played down the stretch really changed my mind on him, and I think he is an asset to the team. But with that, I don't think he is or should be the #1 RB on the team. He hasn't shown the durability to make it thru a full season as the bell cow back. But as "relief" duty RB, he may be one of the best in the league. He is 2nd to none in pass-pro and is a guaranteed chain mover in the open field. I have grown to like him quite a bit. Regardless of his yards, he's an effective player. And while that may signal "bust" due to his draft slot, an effective productive player is an asset. But again, as the #1 RB? Nah, 3rd down or "relief" back is where he seems to be most effective.
    We don't know if it was unwarranted or not, we weren't behind closed doors. Imo, he needed an attitude adjustment and the fact that he was putting the ball on the ground at the time is probably what got him there. I am not a fan of No-show Moreno and would love it if Ball won the job. It's been too long since we've had a bell cow and consistancy out of our RB's

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  • crash123go
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    Originally posted by luvdacolts67 View Post
    Honestly its the kind of RB that Hillman is that I dont like. Not much power and cant break tackles. He's just a speedster like Donald Brown. I just dont think Hillman will remain #1.
    Hillman runs with more power then your giving him credit for. You need to watch his college games to see how hillman runs

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  • theMileHighGuy
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    Originally posted by underrated29 View Post
    But he also had the receiving yards that always gets overlooked. Almost every game he started, maybe even every game. He went over 100 total yards. Anytime simene goes for 100+ it's a very good day. He does it consistently. That is why, where he lacks in running he makes up for in pass catching and open space.




    Also didnt knowshon complete his rookie year without missing a game? I am pretty sure he did. He missed training camp but did not miss a game and finished out the season- to whoever said that. I haven't looked but I think that is correct.
    He played all 16, split starts with Buck.

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