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  • 91bronco
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    Originally posted by crash123go View Post
    Moreno is still only 26 years old and has gotten better the last couple years and can still easily be our starter this year and next 5 years if he stays healthy. As long as a player continues to work hard they can always turn their careers around
    He can't stay healthy though- that's the point. Moreno showed me a lot last year between his attitude when benched and his toughness after being called upon when Mcgahee went down. But he couldn't stay healthy again.

    I think there's a place on the team for him though. He can definitely contribute but he can't be relied on to last the season as a starter or backup for that matter.

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  • crash123go
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    Originally posted by SoundsOfSuccess View Post
    Moreno has shined in pads, thus far.

    Not surprising, his hard running style can't be displayed without pads. Wouldn't be surprised if Hillman and Moreno are the main two this year.
    Moreno is definitely trying to be our power back especially since he should up even bigger then he was last year

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  • SoundsOfSuccess
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    Moreno has shined in pads, thus far.

    Not surprising, his hard running style can't be displayed without pads. Wouldn't be surprised if Hillman and Moreno are the main two this year.

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  • crash123go
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    Originally posted by 91bronco View Post
    I think you answered the question yourself. The Broncos shouldn't be content with Moreno as the starting runningback. He just doesn't offer enough consistently. The Broncos should always be looking to upgrade every position when given the chance. Ball and Hillman offer upside that Moreno doesn't at this point.
    Moreno is still only 26 years old and has gotten better the last couple years and can still easily be our starter this year and next 5 years if he stays healthy. As long as a player continues to work hard they can always turn their careers around

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  • 91bronco
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    Originally posted by luvdacolts67 View Post
    Id like to know why he is not seen as the #1 rb right now?
    I like what he did last year and thought he was much better than Willis and Hillman. I dont think Hillman has the blocking ability to be a #1 or #2 RB. Knowshon showed me he could do it all. I know he is injury prone which is not good because if he would have stayed in the Baltimore game we would have won,IMO. Watching Ball on film, this guy is a monster and could be #1 but this is the NFL and its much more complicated and much faster. He will need to learn to block for Peyton which is what Hillman cant do. I just think right now that KM should be #1 with Ball taking allot of snaps to see what he can do.
    I think you answered the question yourself. The Broncos shouldn't be content with Moreno as the starting runningback. He just doesn't offer enough consistently. The Broncos should always be looking to upgrade every position when given the chance. Ball and Hillman offer upside that Moreno doesn't at this point.

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  • Garfield
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    Originally posted by AZ bronco View Post
    solid post, bravo.
    we have 3 very solid RBs at our disposal, thats a great situation for us starting the season.
    How can you say this?

    We have zero proof of Hillman gett better at pass protection.

    Or that Ball will be anything more than Ball 1 was..


    Or that Moreno will be able to stay healthy.

    Until they start playing in preseason and that is hardly conclusive, we ONLY can hope those things listed above.

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  • flosstein
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    Originally posted by RSH View Post
    In 2012, Moreno was a healthy inactive from Weeks 3 through Week 11; he did not miss eight games due to injury.
    I know. I was just posting games played regardless of reason.
    Last edited by flosstein; 07-27-2013, 09:49 AM.

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  • AZ bronco
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    Originally posted by mh stampede View Post
    so early in camp, depth charts mean next to nothing.

    It is who is listed at the top come september 5th, that counts.
    bingo!!!!!!

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  • AZ bronco
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    Originally posted by HDbroncos02 View Post
    I'm 100% in support of Knowshon Moreno. If Willis McGahee, however, had cut down on his fumbles, he would have been without a doubt our best runner.

    Knowshon fumbled very early in the season, but he did not put the ball on the ground at all in the games he started down the stretch. Knowshon also is our most balanced RB, with good pass protection, receiving, and running skills. All Moreno needs to do is stay healthy.

    Like the above posts, I agree that if Montee Ball improves his pass protection, the starting job is his to lose. Knowshon is injury-prone, so a situational/rotational role for him would be best for his body and the team.

    Hillman just gets better with experience. Hillman needs to dance less and improve his pass protection more.
    solid post, bravo.
    we have 3 very solid RBs at our disposal, thats a great situation for us starting the season.

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  • 18to88
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    Originally posted by MH Stampede View Post
    So early in camp, depth charts mean next to nothing.

    It is who is listed at the top come september 5th, that counts.
    Exactly.

    I think it appears obvious that the current depth chart is simply based off participation during the offseason program.

    Moreno has been recovering from injury hence why he is #3. Dressen is not getting the bulk of the reps with the #1's. Koppen is not with the #1's as he has only just arrived back on the squad.

    It is the professional way to do things. Someone puts in work they get rewarded but the goal is for the depth chart to sort itself out by Week One.

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  • RSH
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    Originally posted by flosstein View Post
    Yes he did play the full season in 2009. He got roughly 2/3 of the carries, with Buckhalter heating the other 1/3. But that was it. In 2010 only 13 games, 2011 only 7 games, and 2012 only 8 games. That's a rough stretch for someone with as much potential as he had. Based on the last 3 years, it looks like a good target would be about 120-150 carries for him.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...M/MoreKn00.htm
    In 2012, Moreno was a healthy inactive from Weeks 3 through Week 11; he did not miss eight games due to injury.

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  • MH Stampede
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    Originally posted by luvdacolts67 View Post
    Id like to know why he is not seen as the #1 rb right now? I like what he did last year and thought he was much better than Willis and Hillman. I dont think Hillman has the blocking ability to be a #1 or #2 RB. Knowshon showed me he could do it all. I know he is injury prone which is not good because if he would have stayed in the Baltimore game we would have won,IMO. Watching Ball on film, this guy is a monster and could be #1 but this is the NFL and its much more complicated and much faster. He will need to learn to block for Peyton which is what Hillman cant do. I just think right now that KM should be #1 with Ball taking allot of snaps to see what he can do.
    So early in camp, depth charts mean next to nothing.

    It is who is listed at the top come september 5th, that counts.

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  • PowderAddict
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    Originally posted by AZ bronco View Post
    I dont think its the shiny toy thing as you suggest(although that premise, in general does have merit when you talk about fan favorites)
    I think it has more to do with hillmans actual production and short-comings last year.
    BESIDES, if hillman was all that, why would the broncos spend a SECOND ROUND pick on another RB if Hillman was all that?
    it was the BRONCOS who felt the NEEDED a new TOY !
    Fox took RB's in the 1st round two years in a row in Carolina.

    Having more than 1 effective RB can be important.

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  • Denvafan78
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    he was 4th in total offense in the 6 week stint behind Adrian Peterson, Calvin Johnson and Andre Johnson

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  • elwayfan2k
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    I have no idea what J & J have planned, but what I do know is I feel confident with any of our 3 RBs taking 20 carries a game which is more than I can say for a lot of teams.

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