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  • samparnell
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    Originally posted by knoxman36and2 View Post
    I'm in agreement with ya Sam. We have a talented team filled with young talent. Young talent makes mistakes and learns from it. It's that simple. I'd still be interested in your take on offensive line depth though? If there "is" a worrisome aspect to what we are seeing in preseason it appears to be the 2nd team o-line struggling repeatedly against 2nd team defensive lines. Do you agree or am I off base in my assessment?
    I had trouble with recording the game and watching it in its entirety. Did Clady play? I'm guessing he didn't. Vasquez left banged up, but I hear he'll be back. I hear first team O did well.

    Starting five should be Clady, Beadles, Manny/Lilja, Vasquez and Franklin.

    You don't see whole second string O-lines during the season because they don't exist. Rosters don't have ten OL. There are usually a couple on PS for practice/scout team.

    So, the question becomes how a backup offensive lineman gels with the starters when one of the top five goes down. Backups are still battling for roster spots, but I expect them to include Manny/Lilja, Kuper, Clark and (?)

    OL depth is good. Vasquez slides to RT. LT is iffy. Shuffle the best five into their best spots. If one goes down, bring in # 6 and reshufflr, if necessary.

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  • GoManning
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    Originally posted by spcdlee02 View Post
    I've been reading post after post in thread after thread. Some people are already throwing in the towel and we haven't even started the season.
    Player (insert any name here) is trash, Elway isn't building a team right blah blah blah.
    Listen, we are coming of a great season. A season like we haven't seen in a very long time. All these mistakes are correctable and correcting them in the preaseason is the idea.
    This team has gotten younger and we have a lot of new pieces. Those pieces will find their places and we will be great. Mark my words. The talent is there.
    My son had his first football game for the year this past Friday. It was only a tune up scrimmage. What I noticed is that we played a VERY vanilla game, on both sides of the ball. Defense, which he plays a 5 tech, played a base goalline the entire game to counter the read option. The offense played simple running plays, simple sweeps and traps. My point is, we have a Ferrari for an offense, we are showing up in a Chevette (for those that remember those cars!!) which I'm with. Same with defense. We aren't showing anything except a base look. When the season starts, we will unleash the beast.
    So stop worrying people. We will be fine.
    :thumb:

    Good post.

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  • ERoyal248
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    Originally posted by knoxman36and2 View Post
    I'm in agreement with ya Sam. We have a talented team filled with young talent. Young talent makes mistakes and learns from it. It's that simple. I'd still be interested in your take on offensive line depth though? If there "is" a worrisome aspect to what we are seeing in preseason it appears to be the 2nd team o-line struggling repeatedly against 2nd team defensive lines. Do you agree or am I off base in my assessment?
    Honestly, every team has bad offensive OL depth.

    It's just not a position you can find quality backups at without spending high picks.

    I see concerns, yes but nothing that can't be fixed.

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  • knoxman36and2
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    Get home. Regroup. Watch video. Fix what's wrong. Prepare for the next game. No time for hysteria. Step away from the panic button.
    I'm in agreement with ya Sam. We have a talented team filled with young talent. Young talent makes mistakes and learns from it. It's that simple. I'd still be interested in your take on offensive line depth though? If there "is" a worrisome aspect to what we are seeing in preseason it appears to be the 2nd team o-line struggling repeatedly against 2nd team defensive lines. Do you agree or am I off base in my assessment?

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  • CoryWinget81
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    "I see serious problems!"

    Then you don't know what you are looking at.

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  • samparnell
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    Get home. Regroup. Watch video. Fix what's wrong. Prepare for the next game. No time for hysteria. Step away from the panic button.

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  • knoxman36and2
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    Our offense was able to move the ball well for the most part last night. Fumbles with young players are to be expected and should be correctable (just glad they happened in preseason so the coaching staff and players can get a jump on correcting these issues without it impacting our season).

    The only area on the team that does concern me is the offensive line. I'm definitely not a fan of Clark or Ramirez if we have enough injuries that they wind up being starters. Our depth in that department is very subpar as evidenced by the 2nd team offense being so inept and honestly kind of pathetic.

    When Clady is back in the lineup we may have a better feel for what we have upfront. I do believe in the old adage that games are won and lost in the trenches, so I hope to see a much more dominant performance each and every sunday once the season rolls around! It wouldn't hurt my feelings though if Elway and company were still keeping an eye open looking for more O-line depth as the cuts start being made from other teams around the league! Go Broncos!

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  • SammyWinder
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    Why does it have to be knee jerk reaction all the time? Why can't people just logically look at it for what it is?

    Some of us see problems. Serious problems, it is not our fault that some of you guys don't see them as well...

    Take the RB position, I see some people on here that see that Ball is not the answer as well. To me and others he can't block for crap. But others on here look at his YPC and say, he is TD!

    That is just one example, there are a lot of others.

    People are going to have different views when they are given a product that does not make the choice easy for them. And right now the product we see, with our starters out there, does not exactly leave you with the feeling that all is right in Bronco land atm.

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  • InsaneBlaze23
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    Wolfe's tweet
    Thanks for the prayers everyone, ill be okay and will be back on the field soon

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  • roushmartin6
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    This happens every week. Even when we win the sky is falling

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  • ERoyal248
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    Originally posted by broncoslover115 View Post
    After the game on Sports Center, Mark Schlerth said, I know people are freaking out, but STOP! He said that for the 1st stringers, the teams were evenly matched, (besides the turnovers) and Denver pretty much went up and down the field at will.
    I agree with Mark completely.

    Offense moved up and down at will. OL gave Manning time to throw, without Clady in there.

    The score doesn't indicate how the game was played, at least with the starters.

    But some of the knee jerk reactions are out of control.

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  • InsaneBlaze23
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    Originally posted by LSIGRAD09 View Post
    We're losing some very important guys to injury. Of course, reports have yet to come in, but I can see why some are worried.
    The reports that have come in aren't bad. Wolfe will apparently be fine enough to play the next, though I think Denver will rest him the rest of preseason.

    For Bailey; X-rays were negative, but Bailey is scheduled to undergo an MRI after straining something in the bottom of his foot.

    For Welker; Suffered a right ankle sprain, depending on how bad it is he could be ready by week 1 or as late as week 4.
    Vasquez is supposedly in the same situation as Welker, but will be fine and ready to play.

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  • ERoyal248
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    Vaz is fine.

    Per twitter reports.

    Three to go.

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  • broncoslover115
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    After the game on Sports Center, Mark Schlerth said, I know people are freaking out, but STOP! He said that for the 1st stringers, the teams were evenly matched, (besides the turnovers) and Denver pretty much went up and down the field at will.

    He said that people will freak out over the score but don't because it doesn't mean anything and the mistakes are correctable.

    Injuries are the concern! I don't think our 1st team should play more than 1-2 series next week.

    He didn't say this, but Seattle is a dirty team, Pete Carroll is a creep, someone should be fined for the hit on Wolfe and why the hell was there no flag on the hit after the play on Manning. The refs in this game were as bad as the Ravens game.

    My concern: Ramirez, who freaking stood there for 2 fumbles and didn't do anything to stop Seattle from returning them. He should be fired! Period!

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  • LSIGRAD09
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    Originally posted by ERoyal248 View Post
    Vaz is ok, Welker doesn't seem that bad, just a sprained ankle.

    And positive news on Wolfe, nothing more than that. He flew back with the team.

    Champ, I worry about a lot, his injury.

    That's precisely the one I'm worried about.

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