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    For all the talk about how good our defense is, I am very frustrated that they still have not lived up to their potential.

    Sacks and turnovers are exciting and important measures of success. But more important is points against. And for dominant defenses, a very important metric is the number of games where an opponent is limited to single digit points (nine or less).

    Here's the kicker! This statistic is not just an arbitrary measurement. It has real importance to a team's championship implications. No team has ever won a Super Bowl without having held at least one opponent to single digits during their championship season. In fact, most SB champs in the last 20 years have 4 or more such games a year.

    So the fact that the Broncos have gone 41 straight games without a single-digit defensive performance is a problem. They CAN do it. But in junk time they get lazy and blow a big play. Well, dominant defenses don't make those mistakes. Suffocate your opponent, no matter the time or score. History shows we have to do this to win a ring!

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    Each game is different with different matchups and challenges: Jamaal Charles, Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson.

    My favorite stats are the ones on the scoreboard when the game is over.
    "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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    • #3
      Tons of key variables that you clearly are not taking into account. Like points that are not the defenses fault but are on the offense. We have had a major issue with that this year.

      The "Defense" held Baltimore to 6 points. Single Digits. Peyton Manning led Baltimore to 7 points.

      Week 2 the "Defense" held K.C. to 17 points. Peyton Manning led K.C. to 7 points

      Week 3 the "Defense" held Detroit to 12. So not single digits but close. Also one score was set up by DT's poor decision to reach for a first down he wasn't going to get and fumble. So full length of the field drives the defense held Detroit to 6 points. The offense set up the other 6.

      Week 4 the "Defense" was technically on the hook for 20 points. But Peyton Mannings two picks led to 10 Vikings Points. Without those picks the defense holds Vikings to 10 points. Still not quite single digits but close.

      Stop your belly aching about some pointless stat. This defense is hands down the nastiest in the league. They can't be held accountable for all the bad mistakes the offense makes.

      It's also extremely hard to hold teams to shutouts in the NFL. Especially when your offense sets teams up with golden opportunities.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by GiddyupGetEm View Post
        For all the talk about how good our defense is, I am very frustrated that they still have not lived up to their potential.

        Sacks and turnovers are exciting and important measures of success. But more important is points against. And for dominant defenses, a very important metric is the number of games where an opponent is limited to single digit points (nine or less).

        Here's the kicker! This statistic is not just an arbitrary measurement. It has real importance to a team's championship implications. No team has ever won a Super Bowl without having held at least one opponent to single digits during their championship season. In fact, most SB champs in the last 20 years have 4 or more such games a year.

        So the fact that the Broncos have gone 41 straight games without a single-digit defensive performance is a problem. They CAN do it. But in junk time they get lazy and blow a big play. Well, dominant defenses don't make those mistakes. Suffocate your opponent, no matter the time or score. History shows we have to do this to win a ring!
        This is a riddiculous static.

        All 31 opposing teams play in the nfl as well, all pros that are paid millions to score points in a league set up for offense to succeed.

        Expecting a defense to hold anyone to single digits in itself is absurd.
        Not to mention that we have had a high powered offense that WAS putting an extreme amount of points on the board very quickly throughout the last 41 games with exception to the last 6 or 7 that was putting our defense right back on the field allowing very little time for rest.

        You need bigger fish to fry my friend...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GiddyupGetEm View Post
          For all the talk about how good our defense is, I am very frustrated that they still have not lived up to their potential.

          Sacks and turnovers are exciting and important measures of success. But more important is points against. And for dominant defenses, a very important metric is the number of games where an opponent is limited to single digit points (nine or less).

          Here's the kicker! This statistic is not just an arbitrary measurement. It has real importance to a team's championship implications. No team has ever won a Super Bowl without having held at least one opponent to single digits during their championship season. In fact, most SB champs in the last 20 years have 4 or more such games a year.

          So the fact that the Broncos have gone 41 straight games without a single-digit defensive performance is a problem. They CAN do it. But in junk time they get lazy and blow a big play. Well, dominant defenses don't make those mistakes. Suffocate your opponent, no matter the time or score. History shows we have to do this to win a ring!
          Cool, we get to be the first.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by GiddyupGetEm View Post
            For all the talk about how good our defense is, I am very frustrated that they still have not lived up to their potential.

            Sacks and turnovers are exciting and important measures of success. But more important is points against. And for dominant defenses, a very important metric is the number of games where an opponent is limited to single digit points (nine or less).

            Here's the kicker! This statistic is not just an arbitrary measurement. It has real importance to a team's championship implications. No team has ever won a Super Bowl without having held at least one opponent to single digits during their championship season. In fact, most SB champs in the last 20 years have 4 or more such games a year.

            So the fact that the Broncos have gone 41 straight games without a single-digit defensive performance is a problem. They CAN do it. But in junk time they get lazy and blow a big play. Well, dominant defenses don't make those mistakes. Suffocate your opponent, no matter the time or score. History shows we have to do this to win a ring!
            Cool, we get to be the first.
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            • #7
              No team has won the superbowl without breathing air.
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              2013 Adopted Bronco - Duke Ihenacho

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JakeNbake View Post
                No team has won the superbowl without breathing air.
                You think that's air you're breathing? Hmmm....

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                • #9
                  I don't get why we have to have single digit scores for defense.

                  We already are the 2nd best on the least points-per-game at 17.3 (behind the jets at 13.3).

                  Who cares if we let the opposition run up the score during garbage time. The W is the only stat that matters.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JakeNbake View Post
                    No team has won the superbowl without breathing air.
                    maybe we can be a once in an oxygen-eration team?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DenverBlood View Post
                      Tons of key variables that you clearly are not taking into account. Like points that are not the defenses fault but are on the offense. We have had a major issue with that this year.

                      The "Defense" held Baltimore to 6 points. Single Digits. Peyton Manning led Baltimore to 7 points.

                      Week 2 the "Defense" held K.C. to 17 points. Peyton Manning led K.C. to 7 points

                      Week 3 the "Defense" held Detroit to 12. So not single digits but close. Also one score was set up by DT's poor decision to reach for a first down he wasn't going to get and fumble. So full length of the field drives the defense held Detroit to 6 points. The offense set up the other 6.

                      Week 4 the "Defense" was technically on the hook for 20 points. But Peyton Mannings two picks led to 10 Vikings Points. Without those picks the defense holds Vikings to 10 points. Still not quite single digits but close.

                      Stop your belly aching about some pointless stat. This defense is hands down the nastiest in the league. They can't be held accountable for all the bad mistakes the offense makes.

                      It's also extremely hard to hold teams to shutouts in the NFL. Especially when your offense sets teams up with golden opportunities.
                      This post - IMO - is a Half court shot resulting in nothing but net. Our turnovers are costing us both offensively and defensively. Our defensive stats would be even better - scary but true. If our offense could score when their supposed to or at the very least not turn the ball over.

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                      • #12
                        I find these kind of stats meaningless. Switching to MLB, reminds me of back in the early 2000's in the American League Championship series. The Yankees were beating the tar out of the Red Sox and up 3 games to 0. No team had ever come back from 0 - 3 to win a championship series...until the Yankees blew their advantage that year and the Sox came back to win 4 straight games.

                        No defense has ever won a super bowl without at least one game of holding an opponent to single digits until a defense wins a super bowl without holding an opponent to single digits. Geez...I feel like I'm channeling the spirit of Yogi Berra
                        "There is no plan B. Plan A is to win the Super Bowl" - John Elway
                        PLAN A ACCOMPLISHED 2/7/16!!!
                        LSU 15-0 2019 BCS Champions...Geaux Tigers :dance:

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                        • #13
                          Here are the stats I like (a lot):

                          Overall D (yardage) - 1st

                          Scored against - 2nd

                          Pass D (yardage) - 1st

                          Sacks - 1st

                          Forced Fumbles - 2nd

                          Fumbles Recovered - 2nd

                          Interceptions - 3rd

                          Run D (yardage) - 7th >>>> this may not be top 3 or whatever, but it is still very good given we are #1 in pass D, and #1 in total D.

                          So.....we're 4 and 0, our D has made some great stands to secure victories, and we are pretty much leading the league in every major D category. If anything, the topic seems sarcastic to some degree......

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by cirehawk View Post
                            You think that's air you're breathing? Hmmm....
                            Oh, God. Another one of those malcontents who took the red pill.

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                            • #15
                              The point of my thread is that championship teams have a killer instinct. The Broncos D is good, but they need to be better. They can't give up fourth quarter touchdowns to RBs they contained all day and then dismiss it as "good fourth quarter football". You all might not agree with me, but I guarantee you Elway, Kubs, and Wade do.

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