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  • Originally posted by SMR81 View Post
    Going all in on a 7th round draft pick who has never thrown an NFL pass isn't a recipe for success. There is a better chance he doesn't even make the roster next year.
    you want to go all in on Siemian. is that any better? I agree with going with Chad. Use the top picks on Oline and run with Chad/FA QB next year. You want to fix the Oline in FA.....by signing who? Then use a top pick on a rb????
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    • Originally posted by munoz1987 View Post
      you just destroyed all credibility with ur last sentence. You can't possible believe Siemian is the answer at QB. I'm being to believe u are Mike Klis.
      Why would I care if people perceive me as credible or not on an internet forum?

      I come here for news, discussion and a good laugh.

      Until we have a better option, Trevor should be our starter, without a doubt. The QB musical chairs only makes it harder on him. If people want to let those thoughts hurt their feeling then oh well.

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      • Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
        I agree with going with Chad. Use the top picks on Oline and run with Chad/FA QB next year.
        And if he turns out to be a bust? What then?

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        • Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
          you want to go all in on Siemian. is that any better? I agree with going with Chad. Use the top picks on Oline and run with Chad/FA QB next year. You want to fix the Oline in FA.....by signing who? Then use a top pick on a rb????
          I don't see us drafting a QB that can make an immediate impact. So unless we can sign someone if FA, Siemian could be in line again next year. I highly doubt Chad will come in and out play Trevor next year. The following year is a little more realistic. A stud RB and improved Oline will help whoever is behind center.

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          • Originally posted by RobertR View Post
            And if he turns out to be a bust? What then?
            draft a QB the following year. They could trade their top 5 pick for a good load of picks and move down to take a top OT and a top OG. they could draft a top 5 qb and what if he is a bust? not much difference there.
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            • Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
              draft a QB the following year. They could trade their top 5 pick for a good load of picks and move down to take a top OT and a top OG. they could draft a top 5 qb and what if he is a bust? not much difference there.
              So you're essentially saying emphasize the OL now, and wait another year to address QB.

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              • Originally posted by SMR81 View Post
                I don't see us drafting a QB that can make an immediate impact. So unless we can sign someone if FA, Siemian could be in line again next year. I highly doubt Chad will come in and out play Trevor next year. The following year is a little more realistic. A stud RB and improved Oline will help whoever is behind center.
                the Oline won't be improved in FA. no idea why anyone thinks that will happen. Olines are built in the draft and with years working together. Your idea of taking a RB in the first over an OT? never going to happen. They may go QB, which is the most likley scenario, but no way do they take a RB.

                Siemian got benched for Os and Lynch. Highly questionable he is named the starter again. I really can't believe you are still on his bandwagon and no idea why you don't think Kelly has any shot at all over him after the showing he put on this year..
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                • Originally posted by RobertR View Post
                  So you're essentially saying emphasize the OL now, and wait another year to address QB.
                  Pretty much. I think they should sign a vet QB such as Cousins, McCown, Gabbert then have the vet and Kelly compete for the job.

                  Then in the draft, trade away a top 5 pick for a 1st, 2nd, and more. Go OT and OG with first 2 picks and maybe an ILB with the other 2nd or possibly even another Olineman.

                  Kelly might be better than any of the QBs coming out in the draft this year. They aren't going to compete next year anyway so why not play it smart, build the Oline and give them time to develop while seeing what Kelly can do? If VJ keeps this up he very well might be gone next year and the new HC could come in with a new QB if Kelly/FA don't pan out.

                  Draft:

                  Mike McGlinchey
                  Quenton Nelson
                  Billy Price
                  Frank Ragnow
                  Last edited by broncos SB2010; 11-29-2017, 08:42 PM.
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                  • Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
                    the Oline won't be improved in FA. no idea why anyone thinks that will happen. Olines are built in the draft and with years working together. Your idea of taking a RB in the first over an OT? never going to happen. They may go QB, which is the most likley scenario, but no way do they take a RB.

                    Siemian got benched for Os and Lynch. Highly questionable he is named the starter again. I really can't believe you are still on his bandwagon and no idea why you don't think Kelly has any shot at all over him after the showing he put on this year..
                    It's definitely possible through FA. Don't the Vikings have all new starters blocking this year? I believe most of that was through FA? It seems like that helped them out quite a bit.

                    As far a taking a RB first in the draft, I would say it's possible. We need a playmaker on offense, a RB in the first would be huge. Any young QB that we start next year is going to need a run game to rely on. Is Booker suppose to be that guy? Wasn't there talk about us trying to move up for CMac last year?

                    Kelly has a shot, I just don't think it will be in his first year coming off major surgery, not that unrealistic of a thought.

                    If we go into next offseason with Siemian, Kelly and a journeymen vet, I'd say Siemian has the best shot. Kelly is going to need a year before he is capable. If we keep TS and Lynch, Kelly won't even make the team.

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                    • Originally posted by SMR81 View Post
                      It's definitely possible through FA. Don't the Vikings have all new starters blocking this year? I believe most of that was through FA? It seems like that helped them out quite a bit.

                      As far a taking a RB first in the draft, I would say it's possible. We need a playmaker on offense, a RB in the first would be huge. Any young QB that we start next year is going to need a run game to rely on. Is Booker suppose to be that guy? Wasn't there talk about us trying to move up for CMac last year?

                      Kelly has a shot, I just don't think it will be in his first year coming off major surgery, not that unrealistic of a thought.

                      If we go into next offseason with Siemian, Kelly and a journeymen vet, I'd say Siemian has the best shot. Kelly is going to need a year before he is capable. If we keep TS and Lynch, Kelly won't even make the team.
                      Vikings have 2 FA starters on Oline. One of them, Remmers is pretty bad.

                      I would bet a lot of $ that they take a QB with their first pick. I am just saying what I would do if I were in charge.

                      Still have no idea why you think Siemian has a future here after he was benched for Os.
                      Last edited by broncos SB2010; 11-30-2017, 06:38 AM.
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                      • Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
                        the Oline won't be improved in FA. no idea why anyone thinks that will happen. Olines are built in the draft and with years working together. Your idea of taking a RB in the first over an OT? never going to happen. They may go QB, which is the most likley scenario, but no way do they take a RB.

                        Siemian got benched for Os and Lynch. Highly questionable he is named the starter again. I really can't believe you are still on his bandwagon and no idea why you don't think Kelly has any shot at all over him after the showing he put on this year..
                        The Broncos best OL of all time:
                        Zimmerman - traded for
                        Jones - traded for
                        Schlereth - FA
                        Habib (?) - FA
                        Nalen - late round draft pick

                        Many people attribute the Rams signing two FA OLs this offseason as big reasons Goff and Gurly are playing better.

                        Dallas built their OL through the draft..

                        Seems to me there's a number of different ways to build a solid OL.

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                        • Originally posted by munoz1987 View Post
                          better than hiring a HC with 1 yr of experience as an defensive coordinator, especially when none of his units were any good, like Elway did.
                          Hmm, we've hired two "young and fresh" coordinators in recent memory. One who came off of one of the best offenses of all time. Another "leader of men". Neither has worked out terribly well and your idea is to go back to that well? Interesting but I hope they pass.

                          Originally posted by RobertR View Post
                          So you're essentially saying emphasize the OL now, and wait another year to address QB.
                          Smarter to do that than get a top tier quarterback killed behind a terrrible offensive line. As far as I can tell, there are zero sure thing, Andrew Luck type quarterbacks in this draft. Maybe they can grab a top offensive linemen and get Baker Mayfield in the second round?

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                          • I'm lost on the argument of drafting a OT early or a RB...and going with TS or Kelly next year

                            we have struggled every year since Elway retired without a franchise qb, other then the years we had manning

                            and this year is a year when there happens to be some great qbs in the draft and we gonna pick in range to actually get a potential franchise qb that will solidify this team for a decade or more

                            you can have a corvette body...but if you have a chevy citation motor in it ...whats the use
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                            • Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
                              Vikings have 2 FA starters on Oline. One of them, Remmers is pretty bad.

                              I would bet a lot of $ that they take a QB with their first pick. I am just saying what I would do if I were in charge.

                              Still have no idea why you think Siemian has a future here after he was benched for Os.
                              Where is OZ now?

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                              • Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
                                Vikings have 2 FA starters on Oline. One of them, Remmers is pretty bad.

                                I would bet a lot of $ that they take a QB with their first pick. I am just saying what I would do if I were in charge.

                                Still have no idea why you think Siemian has a future here after he was benched for Os.
                                I think it's highly likely we keep TS as a backup. I don't believe he has any future as the starter in 2018 unless we really crap the bed in FA and draft.
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