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  • Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
    They will be taking a QB in the 1st. I don't think they should but you know it's happening.
    Washington?

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    • Originally posted by SMR81 View Post
      Washington?
      Denver. Maybe Washington too though
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      • Originally posted by TheAsianPA View Post
        Well honestly, I feel like we should cross Kirk Cousins off the list. To be paying someone 24+ million to be average and throwing 2 interceptions a game isn't much of an improvement over Siemian. And I think our O-lines are comparable...who we're seeing in Cousins in Washington is the same one we'll get here.
        He isn’t throwing 2 ints a game. And you also don’t make a decision about a player based on one game. Whether you think he is worth it or not is a fair debate. But, to use this game as your reasoning why isnt fair in my opinion.

        You can’t make those kinds of decisions based on a single night. Especially when you falsely say that he throws two ints a game when this is the first time that has happened this season. Then you have to take into account that one INT came from bouncing off a guy’s hands. Not finger tips. The palms of his hands. The other came in the last minutes of the game on 4th and 10 with the game out of hand. So, it isn’t like this has been a bad habit for him. 21 TD’s to 8 ints is very acceptable 3/4th the way through the season. On pace for about 25 TD’s and 10 INTs. Again, an acceptable ratio. Definitely a major improvement over Trevor Siemian. Especially when you consider the fact that Kirk is no captain check down. He actually throws the ball down the field. Coming into tonight he was tied for third in 20+ yard completions.

        So, whether or not you think he’s worth it. Fine. I’d just suggest using something more than his one and only game of 2 int’s on the season.
        Last edited by ksubroncosfan; 11-30-2017, 10:57 PM.

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        • Originally posted by SMR81 View Post
          Does Cousins actually throw 2 INTs a game? Or did he just have a bad night trying to carry a talent lacking offense on the road? Come on now
          Going into tonight he had averaged just over .5 ints per game. Same as his career average. He is no Tom Brady in regards to not throwing INTs, but it has not been a problem for sure.

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          • Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
            They will be taking a QB in the 1st. I don't think they should but you know it's happening.
            It’d be great if they did the right thing and hit on the best lineman available.

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            • Originally posted by SMR81 View Post
              Does Cousins actually throw 2 INTs a game? Or did he just have a bad night trying to carry a talent lacking offense on the road? Come on now
              We lack talent on offense as well especially since I think they will move Thomas at the end of the season. Our run game isn't that dominant so we have nothing to take the pressure off Cousins. Don't have a line to protect him really. I for one don't want to pay cousins all that money either. I don't think he'd be a good fit here or rather I'd give Elway a pass if he wanted to go the cheap route on this one. Cousins isn't worth 20mil a season.
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              • Originally posted by ksubroncosfan View Post
                It’d be great if they did the right thing and hit on the best lineman available.
                agreed
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                • Originally posted by ksubroncosfan View Post
                  He isn’t throwing 2 ints a game. And you also don’t make a decision about a player based on one game. Whether you think he is worth it or not is a fair debate. But, to use this game as your reasoning why isnt fair in my opinion.

                  You can’t make those kinds of decisions based on a single night. Especially when you falsely say that he throws two ints a game when this is the first time that has happened this season. Then you have to take into account that one INT came from bouncing off a guy’s hands. Not finger tips. The palms of his hands. The other came in the last minutes of the game on 4th and 10 with the game out of hand. So, it isn’t like this has been a bad habit for him. 21 TD’s to 8 ints is very acceptable 3/4th the way through the season. On pace for about 25 TD’s and 10 INTs. Again, an acceptable ratio. Definitely a major improvement over Trevor Siemian. Especially when you consider the fact that Kirk is no captain check down. He actually throws the ball down the field. Coming into tonight he was tied for third in 20+ yard completions.

                  So, whether or not you think he’s worth it. Fine. I’d just suggest using something more than his one and only game of 2 int’s on the season.
                  I mean he isn't bad. By no means. And you're right, he isn't throwing 2 TD's a game. Bad comment on my part. Id be be fine seeing him here. But when you consider he is an above average QB but he is about to miss the playoffs with his team. He is not going to be worth paying on par the highest contract in the league. Just not worth it when we have a ton of other FA needs. He isn't exactly throwing well against sub par defenses like Dallas and the 49ers. Why does everyone feel the need to come to bat for a QB that has a 2% chance of being on this team next year? And against the same defense Siemian faced in week 2 he threw worse numbers. Make of that what you will.
                  Last edited by TheAsianPA; 12-01-2017, 08:56 AM.
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                  • Originally posted by SMR81 View Post
                    Does Cousins actually throw 2 INTs a game? Or did he just have a bad night trying to carry a talent lacking offense on the road? Come on now
                    Is this the excuse we'll use if he's here? He's not better than players like Smith or Keenum this year that says hes worth on par to the most expensive contract in the league. And let's be realistic, for what reason will he even come here?
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                    • Originally posted by TheAsianPA View Post
                      I mean he isn't bad. By no means. And you're right, he isn't throwing 2 TD's a game. Bad comment on my part. Id be be fine seeing him here. But when you consider he is an above average QB but he is about to miss the playoffs with his team. He is not going to be worth paying on par the highest contract in the league. Just not worth it when we have a ton of other FA needs. He isn't exactly throwing well against sub par defenses like Dallas and the 49ers. Why does everyone feel the need to come to bat for a QB that has a 2% chance of being on this team next year? And against the same defense Siemian faced in week 2 he threw worse numbers. Make of that what you will.
                      Im not coming to bat for him because I think he might have a chance to be on our team. I do it because I think it’s fun to debate things that have real cases to both sides of an argument. Cousins is one of those cases.

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                      • Originally posted by Broncoyearound View Post
                        We lack talent on offense as well especially since I think they will move Thomas at the end of the season. Our run game isn't that dominant so we have nothing to take the pressure off Cousins. Don't have a line to protect him really. I for one don't want to pay cousins all that money either. I don't think he'd be a good fit here or rather I'd give Elway a pass if he wanted to go the cheap route on this one. Cousins isn't worth 20mil a season.
                        Cousins is a baller, if we can get him at 20/mil a year then hopefully we jump on it.

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                        • Originally posted by TheAsianPA View Post
                          Is this the excuse we'll use if he's here? He's not better than players like Smith or Keenum this year that says hes worth on par to the most expensive contract in the league. And let's be realistic, for what reason will he even come here?
                          Cousins is better then both Smith and Keenum. His Oline is all busted up, the backup are even injured. Cousins is a solid QB and we'd be lucky if we got him.

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                          • Originally posted by SMR81 View Post
                            Cousins is a baller, if we can get him at 20/mil a year then hopefully we jump on it.
                            you haven't been paying attention to what the Redskins have been trying to do. They already offered him 22 million a year with 53 guaranteed, and he turned it down in favor of the franchise tag at 24 million a year. He's not going to take less than his franchise tag, and will likely want somewhere in the range of 70+ million guaranteed. This is the reason why I am over 99% certain he isn't going to be a Bronco.
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                            • Originally posted by TheAsianPA View Post
                              you haven't been paying attention to what the Redskins have been trying to do. They already offered him 22 million a year with 53 guaranteed, and he turned it down in favor of the franchise tag at 24 million a year. He's not going to take less than his franchise tag, and will likely want somewhere in the range of 70+ million guaranteed. This is the reason why I am over 99% certain he isn't going to be a Bronco.
                              It very well could be that he turned them down simply because they haven't shown a lot of interest in keeping him, almost like they have to offer him something because they have to not because they really want him. If I'm not mistaken he even referred to that on their last offer to him. He wants to go somewhere where he is wanted. He could except a contract just like that in another place just to spite the Redskins.

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                              • Originally posted by TheAsianPA View Post
                                you haven't been paying attention to what the Redskins have been trying to do. They already offered him 22 million a year with 53 guaranteed, and he turned it down in favor of the franchise tag at 24 million a year. He's not going to take less than his franchise tag, and will likely want somewhere in the range of 70+ million guaranteed. This is the reason why I am over 99% certain he isn't going to be a Bronco.
                                The reason Why I am 99% sure is I think they draft a QB with their top pick
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