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  • listopencil
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    Originally posted by River Side View Post
    So it’s a no then.

    Pretty much.

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  • ERoyal248
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    Steelers went 8-8 in 2012 and 2013 but every team has good and bad runs.

    Stable QB and HC is usually what makes a great team.

    Dont imagine the Patriots will be this dominant once Brady and Bill are gone, there's cycles throughout the NFL. Especially trading JimmyG away for a bag of peanuts.

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  • Rancid
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    It is going to take one of Pat Bowlen's heirs to become Owner/Managing partner to re-instill the spirit of winning and accountability that is now absent.

    Elway just bet the farm on a Noob coach with 5-career wins and fired all the loyal staff from the Super Bowl era.

    Seems like Elway is back to lining up under Guard again.

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  • River Side
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    Originally posted by listopencil View Post
    1) Superior QB: Makes up for other weaknesses on the team as they come and go
    2) Superior HC: Keeps the team ready to play and manages games correctly
    3) Superior FO: Scouts players/coaches correctly and maintains a constant influx of talent

    That's what it will take.
    So it’s a no then.

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  • listopencil
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    1) Superior QB: Makes up for other weaknesses on the team as they come and go
    2) Superior HC: Keeps the team ready to play and manages games correctly
    3) Superior FO: Scouts players/coaches correctly and maintains a constant influx of talent

    That's what it will take.

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  • theone
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    The Steelers have been dominant over the past 15-16 years?!?!?!?

    2002-lost in afc title game
    2003-lost in divisional round
    2004-missed the playoffs
    2005-lost in afc title game
    2006-won it all due to avoiding the Pats
    2007-missed the playoffs
    2008-lost in wildcard round to the Jags
    2009-won it all due to Brady tearing his acl
    2010-missed the playoffs
    2011-made the SB and lost to the Packers by avoiding the Patriots again
    2012- lost to Denver in the wildcard round
    2013- missed the playoffs
    2014- missed the playoffs
    2015- lost to the Ravens in the WC round
    2016- lost to Denver in divisional round
    2017- got raped by the Pats in the AFC title game.

    Missed the playoffs 5 times, made the Super Bowl (won twice) 3 times directly due to avoiding the Patriots, and lost 3 times in the wildcard round. 8/16 years resulted with no playoff wins. 3/8 SB years needed to avoid New England. The other 3 they were punked by New England, the other 2 the Browns/Bengals flat out choked away those games/leads to them. Sorry, I’m not impressed with the Steelers 16 year run.

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  • Insane Tacos
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    Originally posted by jgod654 View Post
    We need to get a vet QB. Cousins, Eli - anyone that can keep us from having to groom a rookie.

    One thing this year has proven is that rookie QBs have a very very very hard time flourishing under VJ. He is simply putting them in situations they can’t handle, and it makes them implode.

    If we get a vet like Cousins, we can use those 6 picks in the top 112 picks to shore up everything around him and whoopsidoo we have a team again.

    I’m officially on the break-the-bank-for-cousins bandwagon.
    This is the most cringeworthy post I’ve read in a while. And trust me, this place has been cringe central as of late..

    1- Eli would be a HUGE step backwards for this team. With an O-line like ours and an aged body, he’ll look very Siemian-esque. Plus he’ll likely retire.

    2- What rookie QB had a “very very very hard time flourishing under VJ”? You mean second year player Paxton Lynch or a third year player in Trevor? The only Rookie QB on the roster last year was Kelly who spent the season on IR.

    Trevor was a 7th round draft pick out of North Western. I don’t know what kind of wizard you expected VJ to be, but expecting this to “flourish” was pretty hard fetched from the get go.

    Osweiler was both traded and cut before coming to Denver and exceeded expectations still looking like a solid backup. VJ simply can’t just make him better.

    Paxton Lynch is panning out to be a first round bust. His inability to grasp a NFL playbook under the tutelage of Gary Kubiak, Mike McCoy, and Bill Musgrave was NEVER Joseph’s fault.

    3- If my first two statements didn’t sum it up, I’ll use simpler more direct terms. This is not Madden. If you think adding 6 rookies “shores up” our team, and will make us competitive again then you need to rewatch some of our losses. Specifically the ones we were nearly blown out by the end of the second quarter.

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  • River Side
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    With this o-line even Brady won’t save us..

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  • Joshua2585
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    I'm starting to lean that way as well. With Musgrave as OC, I think there is opportunity for Cousins to come in and continue playing very well for us with a ground-first attack and using the first couple picks for Offensive Lineman and possibly doing some trades for impact skill players.

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  • jgod654
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    One thing needs to happen for a turnaround in 18

    We need to get a vet QB. Cousins, Eli - anyone that can keep us from having to groom a rookie.

    One thing this year has proven is that rookie QBs have a very very very hard time flourishing under VJ. He is simply putting them in situations they can’t handle, and it makes them implode.

    If we get a vet like Cousins, we can use those 6 picks in the top 112 picks to shore up everything around him and whoopsidoo we have a team again.

    I’m officially on the break-the-bank-for-cousins bandwagon.

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  • Interceptor
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    I noticed a new RT yesterday, to my untrained eye he looked OK, but then look what I have to compare him to.

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  • haciendadad
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    If we are in position to get Mayfield and don't need him, we could get someone's 1st pick next year and most likely another second, especially if he balls tonight and next week. The Jets may give up the farm for him.

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  • CheyennePress
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    Originally posted by Kansas Bob View Post
    We had a new LT yesterday. The kid from Alabama. Did anyone notice how good or bad he did yesterday?
    Mike McGlinchey of Notre Dame would be an awesome pick-up.

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  • Kansas Bob
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    We had a new LT yesterday. The kid from Alabama. Did anyone notice how good or bad he did yesterday?

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  • Letswinplz77
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    Just a fan's wish for next year

    This year was painful, but I think it's clear where the improvement has to come from. Obviously we need a much better O-line, to include left guard and right tackle. I'm hopeful some of the improvement will come with a year under Bolles belt, a healthy Leary and healthy Paradis. We need a solid, reliable, not prone to turn the ball over QB. I know he didn't take a snap this year and might not be as good as I think he is, but I honestly believe Chad Kelly has a chance to be special. He was historically accurate in college. He has a massive competitive streak, not to mention all the arm talent in the world. If we draft Baker Mayfield, or Josh Allen, or anyone else, I can't be mad at that, but I have to believe Kelly can be the QB of the future for this team.

    We need WAY more production out of our TE's. Enter Jake Butt. A full year to recover, an entire off season to practice and train, I think he turns out to be extremely promising next year. Our running backs are showing A LOT of promise. And improved O-line can only help that. Taking a guy like Saquan Barkley can't hurt either. I realize it feels like a luxury pick, but look at what Gurley does in LA, Fornette in Jacksonville.

    But my HOPE is we take either the ND Guard or the Georgia Linebacker. Either of those guys INSTANTLY upgrade the units they join. I'd love to see a star QB under center next year, but I'd love to see the best player we can draft, more.

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