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    It likely doesn't sting anymore. After all, they won a SB two seasons later. But I'll ask this: Was that team as good as their record indicated. Or were they a Madden type machine offense that feasted on poor teams...and eventually met their match in SB 48?

    We're the Broncos over rated too much headed into the SB, & Seattle under estimated? Most pundits picked us.

    Here's the irony: The Broncos did to Carolina what happened to them 24 months prior. We as fans were on both sides of the ledger...if that makes sense...

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    The Broncos had some key players on IR for Super Bowl XLVIII: Ryan Clady; Dan Koppen; Lerentee McCray; Von Miller; Rahim Moore; Kevin Vickerson.

    Adam Gase and Peyton Manning were calling a pass heavy offense (65% pass) and the SB was played in MetLife Stadium in sub-freezing weather IIRC. Alex Gibbs got visibly angry with Gase on the sideline for not slowing the game down and running the ball more. I think that was the end of Gibbs' relationship with the Denver Broncos.

    Seems to me that no matter how the rules are changed, the center of gravity of the game is: run the ball; stop the run; establish optimum FP. It's a winning formula that travels well on the road and helps to overcome foul weather.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by samparnell View Post
      The Broncos had some key players on IR for Super Bowl XLVIII: Ryan Clady; Dan Koppen; Lerentee McCray; Von Miller; Rahim Moore; Kevin Vickerson.

      Adam Gase and Peyton Manning were calling a pass heavy offense (65% pass) and the SB was played in MetLife Stadium in sub-freezing weather IIRC. Alex Gibbs got visibly angry with Gase on the sideline for not slowing the game down and running the ball more. I think that was the end of Gibbs' relationship with the Denver Broncos.

      Seems to me that no matter how the rules are changed, the center of gravity of the game is: run the ball; stop the run; establish optimum FP. It's a winning formula that travels well on the road and helps to overcome foul weather.
      Gibbs was right imo. Yes it is definitely a winning formula Sam. Nicely put.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by BroncoBrennan89 View Post
        It likely doesn't sting anymore. After all, they won a SB two seasons later. But I'll ask this: Was that team as good as their record indicated. Or were they a Madden type machine offense that feasted on poor teams...and eventually met their match in SB 48?

        We're the Broncos over rated too much headed into the SB, & Seattle under estimated? Most pundits picked us.

        Here's the irony: The Broncos did to Carolina what happened to them 24 months prior. We as fans were on both sides of the ledger...if that makes sense...
        I think we could have prevailed in warmer temp. Soon as I heard the temp. would be way below freezing, I new PM would be half the QB he usually is. He just can't play in sub freezing temp. and added injuries didn't help.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by samparnell View Post
          The Broncos had some key players on IR for Super Bowl XLVIII: Ryan Clady; Dan Koppen; Lerentee McCray; Von Miller; Rahim Moore; Kevin Vickerson.

          Adam Gase and Peyton Manning were calling a pass heavy offense (65% pass) and the SB was played in MetLife Stadium in sub-freezing weather IIRC. Alex Gibbs got visibly angry with Gase on the sideline for not slowing the game down and running the ball more. I think that was the end of Gibbs' relationship with the Denver Broncos.

          Seems to me that no matter how the rules are changed, the center of gravity of the game is: run the ball; stop the run; establish optimum FP. It's a winning formula that travels well on the road and helps to overcome foul weather.
          It was 60+ at game time. Funny thing was just after th confetti fell, the temperatures plummeted and we had a blizzard kick up about 4 hours after the game.

          The gameplan was atrocious as well as the logistics of our team’s stay in my beloved Garden State. And the nightmare of having a SB in a different state than the organizations are lodged in. NY is a horrible place for something with the magnitude of a SB. They can handle something like Grammys or an All-Star Basketball/Hockey/Baseball game. But the10days of festivities needed for a SB.......NY was terrible! I have and will always harp on the terrible logistics and how they played a part in the outcome.

          The fact that SEA used the Giants facilities which were 10-15mins from their hotel and did their press obligations in the conference room of that hotel. While we were 45-60mins (with a police escort) from the Jets facilities and did our press obligations on a BOAT!!! With that coastal storm coming in up from the south, the waters were extremely choppy and many players complained of nausea. Then put these nauseated players on a long bus ride and expect them to give their all at practice???? Crazy thing is, less than 10mins from the Jets facilities is a large scale 5-Star hotel. I would’ve had them there and bussed them to the activities. This way practice and gameplane get full attention.
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          • #6
            A friend of mine told me a few days before the game, that Seattle was going to shut our offense down and win that game easily.
            They knew they could "beat the crud out of us" like Pete Carroll Said.

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            • #7
              I believe that quite simply, we came up against a generational D, that had an O with some flair. We had to have it going on all cylinders that day, because for me, we were the underdogs.

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              • #8
                Their D was just too good on the day, just like ours was against Carolina's #1 ranked O. The main problem was their DL was killing our OL all game so we could never get going, just like against Carolina our pass rush dominated the game.

                I thought our banged up D did a pretty good job in the first half but clearly gave up in the 2nd when the game was beyond doubt.

                Seattle and Denver had 2 of the best D's of all time when they each won the SB

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                • #9
                  I personally believe we were unprepared going into that game, didn't make any adjustments during the game and totally outcoached on that day.

                  You have to give credit where it is do: Caroll and the Seahawks were very prepared and came in and played great. They were the better team that day.
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                  • #10
                    I suppose winning a SB two years later softened the blow of that loss for some? Or, is it the case that the thrill of winning is overshadowed by the pain of losing? In otherwords, does the pain of the Jax playoff loss, and SB defeats hurt more than winning SB's felt good?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BroncoBrennan89 View Post
                      It likely doesn't sting anymore. After all, they won a SB two seasons later. But I'll ask this: Was that team as good as their record indicated. Or were they a Madden type machine offense that feasted on poor teams...and eventually met their match in SB 48?

                      We're the Broncos over rated too much headed into the SB, & Seattle under estimated? Most pundits picked us.

                      Here's the irony: The Broncos did to Carolina what happened to them 24 months prior. We as fans were on both sides of the ledger...if that makes sense...
                      I think we would have been more competitive with Wolfe, Von, Harris, and Clady but Seattle was a better team and probably beats us 7 or 8 out of 10 times. To beat that Seattle team you have to be able to run the ball, we were a throw first offense and Manning threw to a spot in a certain amount of time. Seattle jammed our receivers throwing off Manning’s timing, and taking away his biggest advantage.
                      In 2013 the AFC was not a strong conference, the 49ers, the Saints, and Seattle were all more complete teams than the Broncos. I do think we would have matched up better matched up with San Fransico, regardless it wasn’t out year.
                      Elway learned from that embarrassment, and built a great defense in 2014, and in 2015 brought in the perfect coaches to lead us.
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                      • #12
                        The first play from scrimmage had a huge impact on the game.

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                        • #13
                          I firmly believe the 2012 Broncos team was the best team in Broncos history. The offense wasn't as prolific as 2013, but it was close. But the defense was better, and the special teams were dynamic as well, scoring on returns. All three phases were excellent.

                          I found the 2013 team to be an offense with a patched together D and specials that weren't as good. I think we overachieved in 2013.

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                          • #14
                            I think the 2012 Broncos were the best of the Manning era... The SB loss to Seattle doesn't hurt nearly as bad to me as the loss to Baltimore in the playoffs the year before.
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                            • #15
                              Make no mistake about it, even in perfect weather and had a better gameplay, we would not beat the 13 Seahawks. Their defense shut us down because they were damn good.

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